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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3741 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 7:21 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:He's not worth a top-10 pick, but I like the potential fit for a guy like Keldon Johnson as a 3 & D wing next to Trae.

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Ya this was my first prospect chosen for us but he continued to slip in mocks. I like his pit bull defensive mentally. He would be our enforcer and Schlenk is looking for his enforcer.

I like him but only if we trade down a bit to late teens.
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Post#3742 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 22, 2019 7:29 pm

From Bleacher Report -- wing options in the lottery.

(I'm including Culver because I think there's a scenario we trade up for him should he get past the Lakers.)

Jonathan Wasserman wrote:2019 NBA Draft Big Board: Top 50 Players Post-Combine

4. Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech, SG, Sophomore)

An evolved offensive player and creator, Jarrett Culver took a notable step forward this season as a scorer (18.5 points per game) and playmaker (3.7 assists).

He also just measured 6'6¾" with a 6'9½" wingspan, encouraging numbers that confirm Culver has textbook tools for an NBA shooting guard.

He struggled to separate from Hunter in the national title game, raising some questions about his ability to execute against length. That raised the importance for Culver to improve his shooting, which went backward last season.

But at 20 years old, he still checks boxes across the board with enough competence in terms of ball-handling, shot-making, passing and defending. Being well-rounded is arguably Culver's most attractive characteristic.



5. Cam Reddish (Duke, SF, Freshman)

Measuring 6'8" with a 7'0½" wingspan, Reddish's physical profile mirrors Paul George. Combine it with an easy shooting stroke, and teams should still be drawn to his three-and-D potential.

Fit will play a key role in his development. An [ill-fitting] one worked against him at Duke, where he did too much standing around and never gained any rhythm. Reddish will need an equal balance next year of opportunity (to build confidence) and supporting talent to take off pressure.

Determining his pre-draft ranking means assessing his floor plus the likelihood of him improving his off-the-dribble game and decision-making.



25. Nassir Little (North Carolina, SF/PF, Freshman)

Little should help himself during workouts and interviews, and he'll need to after an unproductive freshman season in which he played only 18.2 minutes per game. He's bound to show teams he's a better shooter than his 26.9 percent three-point mark suggests, and they should be enamored by his 224-pound frame, 7'1¼" wingspan and 5.9 percent body fat. Diminishing concerns over his shot-creating ability and passing (6.4 assist percentage) will be tougher to vanquish over the next month.



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7. Coby White (North Carolina, PG/SG, Freshman)

Coby White's draft case got stronger each month to the point where it's become easier to picture his open-court play, ball-screen playmaking and confident shot-making translating to high-level offense.

He measured well in Chicago for a point guard with 6'4¾", 191-pound size. Teams should feel comfortable playing White off the ball as well, particularly after he finished in the 95th percentile as a spot-up player.

White will need to improve defensively, and he lacks exciting explosiveness and length for converting in crowds.

He'll still be a top-10 option for guard-needy teams like the Suns and Bulls, though the Atlanta Hawks, Washington Wizards and Minnesota Timberwolves (Nos. 8-11) will also consider White based on their situations.



11. Sekou Doumbouya (France, SF/PF, 2000)

With college basketball over, teams should be scouting Doumbouya closer this month. So the timing of his 34-point eruption won't hurt. He was sizzling on Saturday with five three-point makes. It was a display of scoring versatility we hadn't seen from the 18-year-old forward. Doumbouya is still a project without a great deal of polish in terms of ball-handling, creating, shooting and defensive awareness. But for the draft's youngest prospect, the flashes continue to appear worth betting on in the long term.


16. Romeo Langford (Indiana, SG, Freshman)

Langford could have a lot riding on his workouts after ESPN.com's Jonathan Givony reported he was playing with a thumb injury that could have impacted his shooting. He was impressive this season otherwise, particularly as a shot-creator, slasher and finisher. Easing concerns about his 27.2 percent three-point mark will be his priority over the next month. Distance shooting will likely be the swing skill that decides whether Langford can be a star scorer or secondary one.


24. Keldon Johnson (Kentucky, SG/SF, Freshman)

Johnson checked in at the combine with an NBA body of 6'6" and 216 pounds. It should serve him well when attacking downhill or guarding opposing wings. Questions about shooting and the ability to create are what push him into the 20s.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3743 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 22, 2019 7:42 pm

Man, I love this kid.

He's the Wendell Carter, Jr. of SGs this year. Just an all around talent with two way ability...and a potentially great fit in any locker room.

I wouldn't trade #8 AND #10 to grab him. He isn't a franchise changer.

But he is a difference maker. Seems like a really special young man.

I'd offer #8, #35, Taurean to jump up to #5 and grab him.

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Post#3744 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 7:42 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:From Bleacher Report -- wing options in the lottery.

(I'm including Culver because I think there's a scenario we trade up for him should he get past the Lakers.)

Jonathan Wasserman wrote:2019 NBA Draft Big Board: Top 50 Players Post-Combine

4. Jarrett Culver (Texas Tech, SG, Sophomore)

An evolved offensive player and creator, Jarrett Culver took a notable step forward this season as a scorer (18.5 points per game) and playmaker (3.7 assists).

He also just measured 6'6¾" with a 6'9½" wingspan, encouraging numbers that confirm Culver has textbook tools for an NBA shooting guard.

He struggled to separate from Hunter in the national title game, raising some questions about his ability to execute against length. That raised the importance for Culver to improve his shooting, which went backward last season.

But at 20 years old, he still checks boxes across the board with enough competence in terms of ball-handling, shot-making, passing and defending. Being well-rounded is arguably Culver's most attractive characteristic.



5. Cam Reddish (Duke, SF, Freshman)

Measuring 6'8" with a 7'0½" wingspan, Reddish's physical profile mirrors Paul George. Combine it with an easy shooting stroke, and teams should still be drawn to his three-and-D potential.

Fit will play a key role in his development. An [ill-fitting] one worked against him at Duke, where he did too much standing around and never gained any rhythm. Reddish will need an equal balance next year of opportunity (to build confidence) and supporting talent to take off pressure.

Determining his pre-draft ranking means assessing his floor plus the likelihood of him improving his off-the-dribble game and decision-making.



25. Nassir Little (North Carolina, SF/PF, Freshman)

Little should help himself during workouts and interviews, and he'll need to after an unproductive freshman season in which he played only 18.2 minutes per game. He's bound to show teams he's a better shooter than his 26.9 percent three-point mark suggests, and they should be enamored by his 224-pound frame, 7'1¼" wingspan and 5.9 percent body fat. Diminishing concerns over his shot-creating ability and passing (6.4 assist percentage) will be tougher to vanquish over the next month.



Spoiler:
7. Coby White (North Carolina, PG/SG, Freshman)

Coby White's draft case got stronger each month to the point where it's become easier to picture his open-court play, ball-screen playmaking and confident shot-making translating to high-level offense.

He measured well in Chicago for a point guard with 6'4¾", 191-pound size. Teams should feel comfortable playing White off the ball as well, particularly after he finished in the 95th percentile as a spot-up player.

White will need to improve defensively, and he lacks exciting explosiveness and length for converting in crowds.

He'll still be a top-10 option for guard-needy teams like the Suns and Bulls, though the Atlanta Hawks, Washington Wizards and Minnesota Timberwolves (Nos. 8-11) will also consider White based on their situations.



11. Sekou Doumbouya (France, SF/PF, 2000)

With college basketball over, teams should be scouting Doumbouya closer this month. So the timing of his 34-point eruption won't hurt. He was sizzling on Saturday with five three-point makes. It was a display of scoring versatility we hadn't seen from the 18-year-old forward. Doumbouya is still a project without a great deal of polish in terms of ball-handling, creating, shooting and defensive awareness. But for the draft's youngest prospect, the flashes continue to appear worth betting on in the long term.


16. Romeo Langford (Indiana, SG, Freshman)

Langford could have a lot riding on his workouts after ESPN.com's Jonathan Givony reported he was playing with a thumb injury that could have impacted his shooting. He was impressive this season otherwise, particularly as a shot-creator, slasher and finisher. Easing concerns about his 27.2 percent three-point mark will be his priority over the next month. Distance shooting will likely be the swing skill that decides whether Langford can be a star scorer or secondary one.


24. Keldon Johnson (Kentucky, SG/SF, Freshman)

Johnson checked in at the combine with an NBA body of 6'6" and 216 pounds. It should serve him well when attacking downhill or guarding opposing wings. Questions about shooting and the ability to create are what push him into the 20s.



I was a bigger fan of Culver early on. Then I saw the combine draft interview and I wasn’t as impressed when they likened his game to Derozan. That’s scares me off a bit. Derozen is a scorer but I want guys that move the ball when it’s not in Trae’s hands. We can’t have a ball stopper imo.

Plus the Lakers always demand crazy returns in trades because..well they are the Lakers. :lol:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3745 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 22, 2019 7:49 pm

Spud2nique wrote:I was a bigger fan of Culver early on. Then I saw the combine draft interview and I wasn’t as impressed when they likened his game to Derozan. That’s scares me off a bit. Derozen is a scorer but I want guys that move the ball when it’s not in Trae’s hands. We can’t have a ball stopper imo.

Plus the Lakers always demand crazy returns in trades because..well they are the Lakers. :lol:




Yeah, that DeRozan comp threw me for a loop as well. Culver's definitely a better play maker than DeRozan, though the mid-range game is indeed similar.

JC's biggest question mark is that jump shot out to 3-pt range. He shot well as a freshman, and got worse throughout his sophomore year.

If he can consistently be a 38% shooter from deep, he's gonna be a great complementary player.

If he ends up in New Orleans with Zion...that could be really special.

His style of play (on ball defense, secondary play-maker) reminds me of S Pippen. He isn't nearly that caliber of player, but stylistically, he falls somewhere around there.
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Post#3746 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 8:32 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:I was a bigger fan of Culver early on. Then I saw the combine draft interview and I wasn’t as impressed when they likened his game to Derozan. That’s scares me off a bit. Derozen is a scorer but I want guys that move the ball when it’s not in Trae’s hands. We can’t have a ball stopper imo.

Plus the Lakers always demand crazy returns in trades because..well they are the Lakers. :lol:




Yeah, that DeRozan comp threw me for a loop as well. Culver's definitely a better play maker than DeRozan, though the mid-range game is indeed similar.

JC's biggest question mark is that jump shot out to 3-pt range. He shot well as a freshman, and got worse throughout his sophomore year.

If he can consistently be a 38% shooter from deep, he's gonna be a great complementary player.

If he ends up in New Orleans with Zion...that could be really special.

His style of play (on ball defense, secondary play-maker) reminds me of S Pippen. He isn't nearly that caliber of player, but stylistically, he falls somewhere around there.



Oh man...Pippen on ball defense YES PLEASE..DeRoz not so much. Ya he could end up in LA after they deal Ant.

Lakers prolly have to give #4, Ingram and Kuz. New Orleans because an instant playoff contender.

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Kuz
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Not a horrible way to start.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3747 » by King Ken » Wed May 22, 2019 9:45 pm

Mike Schmitz was at Octagon today and boy did Cam Reddish look amazing.
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Post#3748 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 9:48 pm

King Ken wrote:Mike Schmitz was at Octagon today and boy did Cam Reddish look amazing.


Supes I want him badly. Please draft Gods you screwed us with Zion just let us have Cam damn.
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Post#3749 » by King Ken » Wed May 22, 2019 9:56 pm

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Post#3751 » by King Ken » Wed May 22, 2019 10:02 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:I was a bigger fan of Culver early on. Then I saw the combine draft interview and I wasn’t as impressed when they likened his game to Derozan. That’s scares me off a bit. Derozen is a scorer but I want guys that move the ball when it’s not in Trae’s hands. We can’t have a ball stopper imo.

Plus the Lakers always demand crazy returns in trades because..well they are the Lakers. :lol:




Yeah, that DeRozan comp threw me for a loop as well. Culver's definitely a better play maker than DeRozan, though the mid-range game is indeed similar.

JC's biggest question mark is that jump shot out to 3-pt range. He shot well as a freshman, and got worse throughout his sophomore year.

If he can consistently be a 38% shooter from deep, he's gonna be a great complementary player.

If he ends up in New Orleans with Zion...that could be really special.

His style of play (on ball defense, secondary play-maker) reminds me of S Pippen. He isn't nearly that caliber of player, but stylistically, he falls somewhere around there.

Culver is clearly a better prospect than DeRozan but he doesn't have the same upsides as DeMar.

Culver comps should be Jalen Rose, Steve Smith, and maybe some shades of Rip Hamilton

Scottie was a tremendous athlete with big mitts and a better wingspan. It's tough to compare him to Scottie just due to those strengths
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#3752 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 10:05 pm

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Spud2nique wrote:I was a bigger fan of Culver early on. Then I saw the combine draft interview and I wasn’t as impressed when they likened his game to Derozan. That’s scares me off a bit. Derozen is a scorer but I want guys that move the ball when it’s not in Trae’s hands. We can’t have a ball stopper imo.

Plus the Lakers always demand crazy returns in trades because..well they are the Lakers. :lol:




Yeah, that DeRozan comp threw me for a loop as well. Culver's definitely a better play maker than DeRozan, though the mid-range game is indeed similar.

JC's biggest question mark is that jump shot out to 3-pt range. He shot well as a freshman, and got worse throughout his sophomore year.

If he can consistently be a 38% shooter from deep, he's gonna be a great complementary player.

If he ends up in New Orleans with Zion...that could be really special.

His style of play (on ball defense, secondary play-maker) reminds me of S Pippen. He isn't nearly that caliber of player, but stylistically, he falls somewhere around there.

Culver is clearly a better prospect than DeRozan but he doesn't have the same upsides as DeMar.

Culver comps should be Jalen Rose, Steve Smith, and maybe some shades of Rip Hamilton


The latter two I love. Smitty obviously and Rip was a monster with the midrange aka the lost art.
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Post#3753 » by King Ken » Wed May 22, 2019 10:06 pm

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Yeah, that DeRozan comp threw me for a loop as well. Culver's definitely a better play maker than DeRozan, though the mid-range game is indeed similar.

JC's biggest question mark is that jump shot out to 3-pt range. He shot well as a freshman, and got worse throughout his sophomore year.

If he can consistently be a 38% shooter from deep, he's gonna be a great complementary player.

If he ends up in New Orleans with Zion...that could be really special.

His style of play (on ball defense, secondary play-maker) reminds me of S Pippen. He isn't nearly that caliber of player, but stylistically, he falls somewhere around there.

Culver is clearly a better prospect than DeRozan but he doesn't have the same upsides as DeMar.

Culver comps should be Jalen Rose, Steve Smith, and maybe some shades of Rip Hamilton


The latter two I love. Smitty obviously and Rip was a monster with the midrange aka the lost art.

He has shades of all three. His off the ball movement and mid range stamina is underrated. I hope he lands in the right situation. I don't think we are the right situation for him.
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Post#3754 » by Radioblacktive1 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:09 pm

I DEMAND Cam Reddish
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Post#3755 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 10:10 pm

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That release is as natural as they come. Reminds me of Ray Allen, not the actual release of the shot but the ability to have such great rhythm, arc and flow.

I said a long time ago that he was a top 5 guy after workouts. We might get screwed here. He might go Lakers or Cavs. Sucks.
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Post#3756 » by King Ken » Wed May 22, 2019 10:17 pm

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That release is as natural as they come. Reminds me of Ray Allen, not the actual release of the shot but the ability to have such great rhythm, arc and flow.

I said a long time ago that he was a top 5 guy after workouts. We might get screwed here. He might go Lakers or Cavs. Sucks.

It will be tough but i think Cavs and Lakers will pass up on him. Cavs probably would have easily picked him but Beliein system has a lot of actions and well, Cam sucks at actions. He could barely play in Duke system. Culver will be their pick. Lakers just aren't taking Reddish. Too raw, much to raw and limited. They need polished players with Bron. Hunter or Garland at 4.

Bulls is possible. They will likely go upside if the PGs are off the board or trade down. Maybe 10 is in play. Maybe not.
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Post#3757 » by Geaux_Hawks » Wed May 22, 2019 10:42 pm

Just look at Reddish shot compared to Culver. Reddish has little to no effort it seems, and it comes so natural and quick. We better have a trade up or something up our sleeves. Would hate to see him go somewhere else.
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Post#3758 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 10:45 pm

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That release is as natural as they come. Reminds me of Ray Allen, not the actual release of the shot but the ability to have such great rhythm, arc and flow.

I said a long time ago that he was a top 5 guy after workouts. We might get screwed here. He might go Lakers or Cavs. Sucks.

It will be tough but i think Cavs and Lakers will pass up on him. Cavs probably would have easily picked him but Beliein system has a lot of actions and well, Cam sucks at actions. He could barely play in Duke system. Culver will be their pick. Lakers just aren't taking Reddish. Too raw, much to raw and limited. They need polished players with Bron. Hunter or Garland at 4.

Bulls is possible. They will likely go upside if the PGs are off the board or trade down. Maybe 10 is in play. Maybe not.


Also if the Lakers trade #4 per Lebron’s request for a vet team, we are again in trouble with whomever acquires that 4th pick, they might take Cam.

He has all the talent. Does he have the heart?
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Post#3759 » by Ice Trae » Wed May 22, 2019 10:47 pm

Culver’s jumper looked good in that video. I’ve watched highlights of him throughout the year and the one thing that always scared me about him was his form. It looked like he had a slight hitch at the end of his shot.
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Post#3760 » by Spud2nique » Wed May 22, 2019 10:52 pm

Ice Trae wrote:Culver’s jumper looked good in that video. I’ve watched highlights of him throughout the year and the one thing that always scared me about him was his form. It looked like he had a slight hitch at the end of his shot.


Same. But he looks like he fixed it. Still not a Cam fluid release. :roll: Wait..that kinda sounded dirty my bad.

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