Ghost of Kleine wrote:Slim Charless wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:Of course, Who wouldn't man, But who here honestly thinks that they're going to be willing to willing to spend around 20 million on Johnson, When Jackson would be much cheaper.
And is younger, and fits their interests more for a young cheap athletic wing with defensive potential.
I'd love to get a team with space to give us something whilst taking our worst contract. But in my trade proposals, I try to be as realistic as possible to the current value of our assets.
But if anyone thinks that the Hawks would do that trade for Johnson instead of Jackson, Please ask them..............
And let them tell me that I am wrong???

Well then wish them good luck and we both go our own separate ways. I get that we've not had the most success the last few years but that doesn't mean that we need to have a fire sale for all of our players either. Its not amazon prime day for suns players. Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't we use a young cheap athletic wing with defensive potential? I mean if Jackson's value is sooo low why not just hold onto him, see if Monty can turn him around.
If all he's worth is a low 2nd round pick now,then there's a chance he can only go up from there I'd imagine yes? He's not without talent he was a consensus top-5 pick in his class, he's raw like a lot of these guys. What's the harm in seeing if he can put it together with an actual NBA coach...
Honestly, I think that saying we haven't had the most success the last few years is really a gross understatement. 10 years of missing the playoffs and over the last 5 years, we've only averaged slightly above 20 wins, With The very worst being last season. But why not ..........
Let's definitely hold onto the same roster that did an amazing job of leading us to 19 wins. Also, I wouldn't classify attaching one player with probably the worst perceived value based upon metrics, etc. In a trade for cap space and also getting a 2nd round pick back ( for use in a larger trade) having a fire sale either.
Yes, It would be nice to have a young, cheap, athletic defensive wing player. But isn't that what Bridges is already, and honestly at about half the price of what Jackson will cost us come November???
As per his value, I enquired not too far back( obviously prior to his latest fiasco) and the responses based upon his overall metrics, his 9 million contract extension due in November, and his erratic and inconsistent play left many with the perception that his value is in the range of a mid to late first round pick AT THE VERY BEST.
And that's only in terms of a team that is actually high on his potential. Now are yhose people undervaluing him, Or are we guilty of overvaluing our own players due to us being so bad for so long?
Hard to tell, but I'm inclined to think it's the latter.
But if we decide to hold onto him, in order to try and raise his value in the next 3-4 months, Before we have to make a big decision on him contractually, So be it.
In the end, I guess that I'm just trying to understand the mentality that some people have on here, Wherein we being a 19 win team are expected to get better and somehow become competitive.
When we have limited cap space to actually offer, Obviously aren't a free agent destination, and in that reality, The only realistic and viable option for our improvement obviously lies within a trade.
However, Due to being bad for so long, We covet and overvalue our only available assets for trade. Because of the fear of what exactly? Maybe becoming worse, IF that's even possible?
Remember the saying........"The definition of insanity is to repeat the same scenario, Yet expect a different outcome".
I know that we're a really poor team, But we really need to start being realistic as to the value of our roster, especially in terms of perceived value from other teams.
Of course we could always just leave the roster as is, I mean it done well for us so far hasn't it???