2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread

[KqWIN]

I don't think we even can trade #23 for Dragic, unless we include Favors and guarantee his deal beforehand. Trading #23 is difficult in general because the players still on contract are tough to move.

[KqWIN]

Objective: Don’t go on world tour
Status: Failed

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Status: Failed

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I don't think it's that big of a deal. You cannot expect him to spend 24/7 for the full summer working out. The question is what he will do while not 'on worldwide tour'. Lets see...

[KqWIN]

I hope he gets selected and plays for team USA in the basketball world cup. Not even sure if he's a candidate since he hasn't been a part of the program...but I just want him to be hooping. Hopefully he's working hard and living up to his legendary work ethic reputation that his teammates have given him.

[D Rog]

Inigo Montoya wrote:
I'd rather give a pick for a long-term solution at the PG position. Dragic doesn't have much of a future with this team, just like Conley.

1st and stuff for Dinwiddie?

Sure. I'd rather take a gamble on DSJ if he's available, but I like Dinwiddie a lot too.

I love Dinwiddie - Good size, age is similar to DM & RG, Not ball dominant, decent D & doesn't cost $32M. I honestly don't want to give up D Favs but the Jazz may have to give him up to get somebody other than Conley or Dragic. I am out on both.

[Luigi]

We really should have made our move last trade deadline when we had Rubio's contract to move. Giving up Favors will make us a worse team.

[KDBG]

Sure this is just a fun, silly ass social media thing to speculate on, but I hope the Jazz make D-Lo a top priority this off-season. It's time to really take a swing for the fences, and I wouldn't even be mad if they strike out. Front load the **** out of that contract, and clear the necessary room in order to make that kind of offer (which means a hard goodbye to Favs). I hope DL and the front office feel the heat, and get out of that traditional Utah comfort zone. A guy like D-Lo is about as perfect of a sidekick you could find for Donovan to grow with.

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[Rauxcee]

I'd love Russel, but the Nets only part with him if they get 2 big time players to come. If 1 comes I think they hold onto him. (Not entirely sure what their cap situation is like, but I think they could make room)


The Jazz's FA is going to come down to who signed where first, and who left over that we could go get.

[KqWIN]

It's a good thing Mitchell is under contract. You best bet those two would rather play together for BKN rather than UTA.

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[KqWIN]

Podcast w/ Dennis Lindsey:

- Talks about title change, says he was too busy and it was good idea to pass off responsibility to Zanik and Moroway
- Credits Zanik for hiring best chef in Utah as team chef (seriously)
- Says that the team turned down a trade in 16/17 for a good scorer on a good contract that would have helped a team. Had they taken the trade, Rubio and Donovan wouldn't be hear. Quick google search...It was Sweet Lou Williams! A Quin Snyder favorite. Lou Williams was traded to the Rockets that deadline for what became the 28th pick (Tony Bradley).

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Podcast w/ Dennis Lindsey:

- Talks about title change, says he was too busy and it was good idea to pass off responsibility to Zanik and Moroway
- Credits Zanik for hiring best chef in Utah as team chef (seriously)
- Says that the team turned down a trade in 16/17 for a good scorer on a good contract that would have helped a team. Had they taken the trade, Rubio and Donovan wouldn't be hear. Quick google search...It was Sweet Lou Williams! A Quin Snyder favorite. Lou Williams was traded to the Rockets that deadline for what became the 28th pick (Tony Bradley).

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DL is a master of talking a ton without saying much. Props for trying to collect pretty much all the information given in this 40-minute podcast in 3 quick points.

[KqWIN]

DL is a master of talking a ton without saying much. Props for trying to collect pretty much all the information given in this 40-minute podcast in 3 quick points.

He does drop a lot of nuggets. I think he wanted to leak the Lou Will trade because it showed the benefit of sitting pat, even if it panned out due to some luck. What makes it easier to decipher is that he has a lot of "on brand" things he says and repeats. A lot of people came away with the impression that if we strike out on the bigger name players, we'll punt again and try again next summer...but it seemed like the same "we're not making a move to make a move" trope that he says a lot.

The interviewer (Dowsett) also tried to lead him hard into some weird narratives...he very nicely circumvented the questions as to say, "No, that's not at all how it is"

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DL is a master of talking a ton without saying much. Props for trying to collect pretty much all the information given in this 40-minute podcast in 3 quick points.

He does drop a lot of nuggets. I think he wanted to leak the Lou Will trade because it showed the benefit of sitting pat, even if it panned out due to some luck. What makes it easier to decipher is that he has a lot of "on brand" things he says and repeats. A lot of people came away with the impression that if we strike out on the bigger name players, we'll punt again and try again next summer...but it seemed like the same "we're not making a move to make a move" trope that he says a lot.

The interviewer (Dowsett) also tried to lead him hard into some weird narratives...he very nicely circumvented the questions as to say, "No, that's not at all how it is"

Yeah... Dowsett was fishing hard for something to suggest that DL is taking a back seat for real... like how KOC took a back seat when DL came in.

I wouldn't mind staying pat if the alternative is we tie ourselves to long-term mediocrity. I kind of have been contemplating trading for Dinwiddie more and more in case Kyrie goes to BKN. I think I want him more than I want Russell to be fair. At this point I think my favorite moves at this point are:
1. sub-top tier FA(Middleton, Kemba, Harris, this type of FA)
2. trade for Dinwiddie/trade for Jrue if available
3. stay pat
4. Trade for Conley
5. anything else...

Low key interesting scenario - trade for Wiggins along with compensation coming from Minny(pick swap? Saric? RoCo?)

[KqWIN]

Yeah... Dowsett was fishing hard for something to suggest that DL is taking a back seat for real... like how KOC took a back seat when DL came in.

I wouldn't mind staying pat if the alternative is we tie ourselves to long-term mediocrity. I kind of have been contemplating trading for Dinwiddie more and more in case Kyrie goes to BKN. I think I want him more than I want Russell to be fair. At this point I think my favorite moves at this point are:
1. sub-top tier FA(Middleton, Kemba, Harris, this type of FA)
2. trade for Dinwiddie/trade for Jrue if available
3. stay pat
4. Trade for Conley
5. anything else...

Low key interesting scenario - trade for Wiggins along with compensation coming from Minny(pick swap? Saric? RoCo?)

I have similar feelings about Dinwiddie. His combination of iso, PnR, spot up, contract, and age just make him perfect for us. If BKN wants to get serious about winning, I'd try to move Favors for him so he can be their C. Favors is perfect for them, Dinwiddie is perfect for us.

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Dinwiddie or Conley on their respective contracts? If we're willing to move a lot for Conley...I feel like we should be willing to move the same for Dinwiddie.

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I have similar feelings about Dinwiddie. His combination of iso, PnR, spot up, contract, and age just make him perfect for us. If BKN wants to get serious about winning, I'd try to move Favors for him so he can be their C. Favors is perfect for them, Dinwiddie is perfect for us.

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Dinwiddie or Conley on their respective contracts? If we're willing to move a lot for Conley...I feel like we should be willing to move the same for Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie easy. At this point I'm slowly moving away from anything that resembles what has put us in this position so far - giving more and more picks for 1 year rentals for PGs. Conley's contract has a player option next year... and I'm almost certain that if he's anywhere close to worth his money he will opt out and try to get one final payday... so it won't even be 2 years we will be trading for - it will be most likely 1.

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Yeah... Dowsett was fishing hard for something to suggest that DL is taking a back seat for real... like how KOC took a back seat when DL came in.

I wouldn't mind staying pat if the alternative is we tie ourselves to long-term mediocrity. I kind of have been contemplating trading for Dinwiddie more and more in case Kyrie goes to BKN. I think I want him more than I want Russell to be fair. At this point I think my favorite moves at this point are:
1. sub-top tier FA(Middleton, Kemba, Harris, this type of FA)
2. trade for Dinwiddie/trade for Jrue if available
3. stay pat
4. Trade for Conley
5. anything else...

Low key interesting scenario - trade for Wiggins along with compensation coming from Minny(pick swap? Saric? RoCo?)

I have similar feelings about Dinwiddie. His combination of iso, PnR, spot up, contract, and age just make him perfect for us. If BKN wants to get serious about winning, I'd try to move Favors for him so he can be their C. Favors is perfect for them, Dinwiddie is perfect for us.

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Dinwiddie or Conley on their respective contracts? If we're willing to move a lot for Conley...I feel like we should be willing to move the same for Dinwiddie.

I can't see the nets having interest in Favors when they already have there long term center in Jarrett Allen.

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[KqWIN]

Yeah... Dowsett was fishing hard for something to suggest that DL is taking a back seat for real... like how KOC took a back seat when DL came in.

I wouldn't mind staying pat if the alternative is we tie ourselves to long-term mediocrity. I kind of have been contemplating trading for Dinwiddie more and more in case Kyrie goes to BKN. I think I want him more than I want Russell to be fair. At this point I think my favorite moves at this point are:
1. sub-top tier FA(Middleton, Kemba, Harris, this type of FA)
2. trade for Dinwiddie/trade for Jrue if available
3. stay pat
4. Trade for Conley
5. anything else...

Low key interesting scenario - trade for Wiggins along with compensation coming from Minny(pick swap? Saric? RoCo?)

I have similar feelings about Dinwiddie. His combination of iso, PnR, spot up, contract, and age just make him perfect for us. If BKN wants to get serious about winning, I'd try to move Favors for him so he can be their C. Favors is perfect for them, Dinwiddie is perfect for us.

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Dinwiddie or Conley on their respective contracts? If we're willing to move a lot for Conley...I feel like we should be willing to move the same for Dinwiddie.

I can't see the nets having interest in Favors when they already have there long term center in Jarrett Allen.

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It would have to be a scenario where they sign one of the top guys (KD/Kyrie level), and they don’t want to wait on Allen to develop. Allen got put in the dumpster on defense and he’s going to need a ton of physical and mental development in order to be effective in the playoffs.

If not Favors, I’d try to move Crowder and spare parts. I actually think they might value Crowder more.

How do you guys feel about giving up our 6th first round pick in attempt to find a long term solution at PG?

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