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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#41 » by Triples333 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:51 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:I dunno how anyone that watched that series could pretend Curry played well, admirably, or worth putting up any kind of arguing for. That was ugly, and awful watching him struggle against a complete scrub.

The only thing he did well was get Matthew Dellavadova a massive, undeserved contract.
Lol some memory you have man.

He had one bad game against delladova (who came in like a Tasmanian devil on him after having not tired himself for a minute in the playoffs). Literally by Game 3 (Curry had a good game 1 against Kyrie and Delly started game 2) Curry was already turning him inside out. The final 4 games after his only bad game of the series (game 2), Curry averaged 28/5/6 + 2.5 steals on 49/48/86. No objective person could watch that series and not readily understand that he was the entire reason the Warriors were commanding the games offensively. Literally having multiple games where he tied MJ's record for points in a NBA Finals 4th quarter. I'll book those stats and facts very comfortably under the header of "playing well and admirably".
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Post#42 » by Spintown » Thu May 23, 2019 11:51 pm

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Spintown wrote:No excuses. This year is Curry's year.


What excuses?


Every Year I have to hear excuses why he didn't win.

Well this year the stage is set in the finals, no Durant, the team on his Back so he should win it, no excuses.
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Post#43 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu May 23, 2019 11:56 pm

Tigersrule wrote:honestly 2015..bron shud have won FMVP..
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Post#44 » by Triples333 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:59 pm

Spintown wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Spintown wrote:No excuses. This year is Curry's year.


What excuses?


Every Year I have to hear excuses why he didn't win.

Well this year the stage is set in the finals, no Durant, the team on his Back so he should win it, no excuses.

I mean he played incredible the past 2 Finals as well. KD was just a bit better (and it should never go overlooked that KD was the secondary concern of Cleveland, by their own admission). They were also essentially "going through the motions" series, so ultimately not that important. The Finals MVP should have been awarded for the Western Conference Finals last year.
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Re: Curry 2015 NBA finals 

Post#45 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri May 24, 2019 12:03 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:I dunno how anyone that watched that series could pretend Curry played well, admirably, or worth putting up any kind of arguing for. That was ugly, and awful watching him struggle against a complete scrub.

The only thing he did well was get Matthew Dellavadova a massive, undeserved contract.
Lol some memory you have man.

He had one bad game against delladova (who came in like a Tasmanian devil on him after having not tired himself for a minute in the playoffs). Literally by Game 3 (Curry had a good game 1 against Kyrie and Delly started game 2) Curry was already turning him inside out. The final 4 games after his only bad game of the series (game 2), Curry averaged 28/5/6 + 2.5 steals on 49/48/86. No objective person could watch that series and not readily understand that he was the entire reason the Warriors were commanding the games offensively. Literally having multiple games where he tied MJ's record for points in a 4th quarter.... twice. I'll book those stats and facts very comfortably under the header of "playing well and admirably)".


Right, Curry always gets the "it was only x amount of bad games!"

The dude has proven he can average 30 a game on low minutes and relatively low shot attempts. When he comes in average 26/6 in 42 minutes, shooting below his averages by a lot, turning the ball over 4.6 times a game all against a team that was in complete shambles with injuries, and wasn't even great on defense before them, I don't think it's anything to brag about.

It was very clear he was a distant second best player in the series, and he did nothing to earn or deserve a finals MVP, so it's really nothing to cry about.

Putting up 26 points and 6 assists with a ton of turnovers in 42 minutes while being hidden on defense is not a Steph Curry level performance.

A lot of player's legacies would look a lot different if their team wins, and then we can just remove all the bad games and bad quarters from the equation, and just talk about the bright spots.
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Post#46 » by dynamic duo » Fri May 24, 2019 12:05 am

fact is that steph has never been the best player in the finals and if he doesn't get it done this year with durant out/hobbled and no lebron his individual legacy is going to take a massive hit.
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Post#47 » by Peregrine01 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:12 am

Really shows how unimportant the Finals MVP is.
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Post#48 » by mike76 » Fri May 24, 2019 12:21 am

Really crazy thought:

What if we didn't let things like Finals MVP (which rewards the best player in a single series rather than the entire playoffs) and rings (a team accomplishment) impact positively or negatively a player's legacy but rather judge their greatness on their consistency in the regular season and their performance throughout all of their playoff series (rather than picking 1 subpar/elite game or 1 subpar/elite series)?

A crazy thought, but one worth considering.
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Post#49 » by Krazykiwi » Fri May 24, 2019 12:44 am

You curry fan boys are still trying to making excuses for curry . Man, If you are really an ATG GoAT level player , you will have some finals MVPs, not here discussing if he should’ve won 1 out of those 3 Fmvps. I mean a GOAT level player like you fan boys claimed , should unquestionably be the best player on your own team and left the marks on the biggest stage. This is how you become GOAT level player by leading your team to championships and undeniably contributed the most to your team success AKA put the team on the shoulder and not being carried. Look at MJ, Lebron , SHAQ Hakeem, Bird etc... it’s no coincidence.
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Post#50 » by floppymoose » Fri May 24, 2019 12:49 am

GOATs have Rings and MVPs both. Look up the list of players with 4 rings and 2 MVPs. Curry could join that list this season. If you keep posting I really like his chances.
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Post#51 » by Dupp » Fri May 24, 2019 12:54 am

Curry’s numbers slightly overrate his impact that series, particularly when the series was in the balance. Iggys numbers way underrate his impact.

I think there’s a good argument for both.


Lebron, however was clearly the best player in the series.
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Post#52 » by Dupp » Fri May 24, 2019 12:56 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:I dunno how anyone that watched that series could pretend Curry played well, admirably, or worth putting up any kind of arguing for. That was ugly, and awful watching him struggle against a complete scrub.

The only thing he did well was get Matthew Dellavadova a massive, undeserved contract.



Delly was pretty good for 3 games and then went to hospital and was pretty bad to finish the series, which helped curry.
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Post#53 » by picc » Fri May 24, 2019 12:58 am

An interesting thing about sports forums is the way people try to use the infinity gauntlet to alter reality, way after the fact. At the time the finals was going on, the prevalent dialogue was how bad Curry looked and how Iggy was keeping them afloat. But if you ask a realgm'er today, he had one bad game and dominated the rest. :-?

Somehow his pretty averages weren't enough for people to think he was having a good series then, while the series was actually being played, but waaaay after the fact, with even less context, we should take them at face value now.

Do you think everyone just hit their head on a cliff like Goku and forgot because you posted his series average?

Can I vote twice for Iguodala for finals MVP, retroactively? If Bush did it...

edit: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1392234

Poll during the finals about who should get finals mvp. Iggy with 162 votes. "Other warriors player" option with 28. Lebron with 56. But sure, "everyone knew" Curry deserved it. :crazy:

Another thread about it at the time, and not years later when people can rewrite history in their heads.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1392996

Keep snapping those fingers with no gauntlet on, Thanos.
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Post#54 » by Hobo4President » Fri May 24, 2019 1:10 am

mike76 wrote:Really crazy thought:

What if we didn't let things like Finals MVP (which rewards the best player in a single series rather than the entire playoffs) and rings (a team accomplishment) impact positively or negatively a player's legacy but rather judge their greatness on their consistency in the regular season and their performance throughout all of their playoff series (rather than picking 1 subpar/elite game or 1 subpar/elite series)?

A crazy thought, but one worth considering.


Yeah using awards to judge players is idiotic. If they were somehow chosen objectively they might have some merit but the voters seem to be as prone to bias as casual fans.
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Post#55 » by PistolPeteJR » Fri May 24, 2019 1:11 am

Peregrine01 wrote:Really shows how unimportant the Finals MVP is.


Keep conveniently bending narratives.
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Post#56 » by Peregrine01 » Fri May 24, 2019 1:16 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:Really shows how unimportant the Finals MVP is.


Keep conveniently bending narratives.


The Finals MVP award is voted by a bunch of media members beholden to narratives. The key reason why Iggy even became MVP was because the Cavs deliberately trapped and doubled Curry all series and dared one guy to make open shots.
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Post#57 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri May 24, 2019 1:16 am

LakersLegacy wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Curry not winning FMVP that year is one of the most egregious and legacy altering decisions in NBA history as far as awards are concerned.


It makes me happy when great defense gets recognized.

The Warriors should have been the first team w 4 or 5 different Finals MVPs. KD wanted it more than Curry last year.

I’m rooting for one of Curry/Klay/green to get a Finals MVP matching the Showtime Lakers with Magic/Kareem/Worthy all winning FinalsMVPs and the Spurs w Duncan/Parker/Kawhi all winning MVPs.

I don't think KD wanted it more. They both wanted it.

Steph got into foul trouble in the first quarter of game 3 and picked up his third foul midway through the second quarter if I remember correctly. He was toast after that. In fairness, KD seized the opportunity and had himself an unbelievable game.
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Post#58 » by Vladimir777 » Fri May 24, 2019 1:29 am

picc wrote:An interesting thing about sports forums is the way people try to use the infinity gauntlet to alter reality, way after the fact. At the time the finals was going on, the prevalent dialogue was how bad Curry looked and how Iggy was keeping them afloat. But if you ask a realgm'er today, he had one bad game and dominated the rest. :-?

Somehow his pretty averages weren't enough for people to think he was having a good series then, while the series was actually being played, but waaaay after the fact, with even less context, we should take them at face value now.

Do you think everyone just hit their head on a cliff like Goku and forgot because you posted his series average?

Can I vote twice for Iguodala for finals MVP, retroactively? If Bush did it...

edit: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1392234

Poll during the finals about who should get finals mvp. Iggy with 162 votes. "Other warriors player" option with 28. Lebron with 56. But sure, "everyone knew" Curry deserved it. :crazy:

Another thread about it at the time, and not years later when people can rewrite history in their heads.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1392996

Keep snapping those fingers with no gauntlet on, Thanos.


Yeah, when I say Curry underperformed in that series, I’m not basing it off stats, but from my memory of the series. Everyone thought he underperformed then for him, which is why he didn’t win Finals MVP. It’s as simple as that. Not some conspiracy the media has against Curry (why would that be?).
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Post#59 » by Krazykiwi » Fri May 24, 2019 1:40 am

Bottom line , if you are truly a great player , you shouldn’t be here on a forum having bunch of fan boys arguing for you if you even could have won 1 out of 3 finals mvps.LMAO. Just so pathetic. GOAT level players don’t have that type of stuff happening to them .
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Post#60 » by Jay 20 » Fri May 24, 2019 1:41 am

Vladimir777 wrote:
picc wrote:An interesting thing about sports forums is the way people try to use the infinity gauntlet to alter reality, way after the fact. At the time the finals was going on, the prevalent dialogue was how bad Curry looked and how Iggy was keeping them afloat. But if you ask a realgm'er today, he had one bad game and dominated the rest. :-?

Somehow his pretty averages weren't enough for people to think he was having a good series then, while the series was actually being played, but waaaay after the fact, with even less context, we should take them at face value now.

Do you think everyone just hit their head on a cliff like Goku and forgot because you posted his series average?

Can I vote twice for Iguodala for finals MVP, retroactively? If Bush did it...

edit: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1392234

Poll during the finals about who should get finals mvp. Iggy with 162 votes. "Other warriors player" option with 28. Lebron with 56. But sure, "everyone knew" Curry deserved it. :crazy:

Another thread about it at the time, and not years later when people can rewrite history in their heads.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1392996

Keep snapping those fingers with no gauntlet on, Thanos.


Yeah, when I say Curry underperformed in that series, I’m not basing it off stats, but from my memory of the series. Everyone thought he underperformed then for him, which is why he didn’t win Finals MVP. It’s as simple as that. Not some conspiracy the media has against Curry (why would that be?).


Just because he underperformed by his standards doesn't mean he didn't have a huge impact on the series and have decent numbers. It may have felt underwhelming based on what we saw from him throughout the MVP caliber year he had but he still was the most valuable player to the winning team.

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