Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[xpmar9x]

CHI gets: Evan Turner + 25
POR gets: Felicio + 38

Por saves $10m+, allowing them to use the MLE, and $ on some key resignings. Bulls move up in the draft and have 1 year remaining w Turner. He can also provide some of the "vet presence" Paxson wants along w spot bench minutes.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

I wouldn’t even trade Dunn for Ball without the pick let alone including it

No way I’d want to help LA get Davis either

AD and Felicio to Portland

LaVine, 7th pick and Meyers Leonard to New Orleans

McCollum to Chicago

Blazers get much needed rim protection and a big 3 of Lillard, AD and Nurkic

Pelicans have a nice young core with Zion, 7th pick, Leonard, LaVine, Holiday

Bulls move in the right directions with McCollum, Porter and Markkanen

Sign Patrick Beverley and you’ve got 4 starters in place that can all knock down the 3

...that's not even half of what AD is worth. Pels easily say no.

I disagree, it’s a better offer than what the Lakers put forth. It probably comes down to what you think of Leonard and I see a lot of potential in that kid, can shoot the 3 and finish strong inside. Clearly not afraid of the big moment as shown against the Warriors

[superdave]

HOU trades: Chris Paul
CHI trades: Zach Lavine, Felicio, Kris Dunn

Basically a swap for 3-year contracts b/w Paul and Lavine. Bulls get a "star" albeit a declining one. Houston gets younger and a couple bench pieces for their thin bench. Bulls draft BPA at #7 and sign a vet backup PG.

start: CP3, Culver/Hunter, Otto, Lauri, WCJ
bench: Collison / Dragic, Seldon, Hutch, 2nd round pick, WindyCityBulls person

[xpmar9x]

I wouldn’t even trade Dunn for Ball without the pick let alone including it

No way I’d want to help LA get Davis either

AD and Felicio to Portland

LaVine, 7th pick and Meyers Leonard to New Orleans

McCollum to Chicago

Blazers get much needed rim protection and a big 3 of Lillard, AD and Nurkic

Pelicans have a nice young core with Zion, 7th pick, Leonard, LaVine, Holiday

Bulls move in the right directions with McCollum, Porter and Markkanen

Sign Patrick Beverley and you’ve got 4 starters in place that can all knock down the 3

...that's not even half of what AD is worth. Pels easily say no.

I disagree, it’s a better offer than what the Lakers put forth. It probably comes down to what you think of Leonard and I see a lot of potential in that kid, can shoot the 3 and finish strong inside. Clearly not afraid of the big moment as shown against the Warriors

Nah dawg. Leonard has 1 good game in his career lol. As a UofI fan, like the guy... but hell never be more than a bench big (overpaid one at that). He was a liability on D in that PnR vs GS time and time again. I'd much rather have Kuz, Ingram, Zo, 4 than what you proposed.

Post your original trade in the trade forum and see what kinda feedback you get.

We could offer WCJ, Lavine, & 7 and get AD ourselfs if your proposal was feasible. WCJ has 5x the value of Leonard and McCollum more than Lavine. idk man, just don't see it. Like the idea tho, id freakin love McCollum.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

...that's not even half of what AD is worth. Pels easily say no.

I disagree, it’s a better offer than what the Lakers put forth. It probably comes down to what you think of Leonard and I see a lot of potential in that kid, can shoot the 3 and finish strong inside. Clearly not afraid of the big moment as shown against the Warriors

Nah dawg. Leonard has 1 good game in his career lol. As a UofI fan, like the guy... but hell never be more than a bench big (overpaid one at that). He was a liability on D in that PnR vs GS time and time again. I'd much rather have Kuz, Ingram, Zo, 4 than what you proposed.

Post your original trade in the trade forum and see what kinda feedback you get.

We could offer WCJ, Lavine, & 7 and get AD ourselfs if your proposal was feasible. WCJ has 5x the value of Leonard and McCollum more than Lavine. idk man, just don't see it. Like the idea tho, id freakin love McCollum.

I’m not basing it off of 1 game, he has a lot of potential.

I don’t want AD, he’s a drama queen and injury waiting to happen, terrible combination

WCJ doesn’t have 5 x anyone’s value right now, he’s done nothing

Agree to disagree, that Lakers offer is trash

Why would I need to post it on another forum? I’m not that invested in the idea and don’t need any validation.

[sco]

HOU trades: Chris Paul
CHI trades: Zach Lavine, Felicio, Kris Dunn

Basically a swap for 3-year contracts b/w Paul and Lavine. Bulls get a "star" albeit a declining one. Houston gets younger and a couple bench pieces for their thin bench. Bulls draft BPA at #7 and sign a vet backup PG.

start: CP3, Culver/Hunter, Otto, Lauri, WCJ
bench: Collison / Dragic, Seldon, Hutch, 2nd round pick, WindyCityBulls person

Sorry, but CP3 is on the decline...no thank you. I'm ok trading Lavine, but not for that.

[BigJimFinn]

I wouldn’t even trade Dunn for Ball without the pick let alone including it

No way I’d want to help LA get Davis either

AD and Felicio to Portland

LaVine, 7th pick and Meyers Leonard to New Orleans

McCollum to Chicago

Blazers get much needed rim protection and a big 3 of Lillard, AD and Nurkic

Pelicans have a nice young core with Zion, 7th pick, Leonard, LaVine, Holiday

Bulls move in the right directions with McCollum, Porter and Markkanen

Sign Patrick Beverley and you’ve got 4 starters in place that can all knock down the 3

...that's not even half of what AD is worth. Pels easily say no.

I disagree, it’s a better offer than what the Lakers put forth. It probably comes down to what you think of Leonard and I see a lot of potential in that kid, can shoot the 3 and finish strong inside. Clearly not afraid of the big moment as shown against the Warriors

Meyers Leonard is 27, with seven years in the league and no real improvement since his 3rd year, when he revealed a good three-point shot. He is an efficient spot-up shooter, but does not provide enough defense or inside presence to play significant minutes. The first half against Warriors was literally the best he has played in 400 games. It was perfectly timed for his career prospects, but calling him a kid with potential takes a LOT of imagination.

I might add that Leonard is exactly the player the Bulls fans who booed the drafting of Lauri thought you were getting.

[WindyCityBorn]

HOU trades: Chris Paul
CHI trades: Zach Lavine, Felicio, Kris Dunn

Basically a swap for 3-year contracts b/w Paul and Lavine. Bulls get a "star" albeit a declining one. Houston gets younger and a couple bench pieces for their thin bench. Bulls draft BPA at #7 and sign a vet backup PG.

start: CP3, Culver/Hunter, Otto, Lauri, WCJ
bench: Collison / Dragic, Seldon, Hutch, 2nd round pick, WindyCityBulls person

No. Paul is done.

[WindyCityBorn]

I wouldn’t even trade Dunn for Ball without the pick let alone including it

No way I’d want to help LA get Davis either

AD and Felicio to Portland

LaVine, 7th pick and Meyers Leonard to New Orleans

McCollum to Chicago

Blazers get much needed rim protection and a big 3 of Lillard, AD and Nurkic

Pelicans have a nice young core with Zion, 7th pick, Leonard, LaVine, Holiday

Bulls move in the right directions with McCollum, Porter and Markkanen

Sign Patrick Beverley and you’ve got 4 starters in place that can all knock down the 3

...that's not even half of what AD is worth. Pels easily say no.

I disagree, it’s a better offer than what the Lakers put forth. It probably comes down to what you think of Leonard and I see a lot of potential in that kid, can shoot the 3 and finish strong inside. Clearly not afraid of the big moment as shown against the Warriors

New Orleans would hang up the phone on this. You aren't getting Anthony Davis in a trade where LaVine is biggest asset. The 7th pick seems to be worth about as much as a 15th pick in most drafts.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Meyers Leonard is 27, with seven years in the league and no real improvement since his 3rd year, when he revealed a good three-point shot. He is an efficient spot-up shooter, but does not provide enough defense or inside presence to play significant minutes. The first half against Warriors was literally the best he has played in 400 games. It was perfectly timed for his career prospects, but calling him a kid with potential takes a LOT of imagination.

I might add that Leonard is exactly the player the Bulls fans who booed the drafting of Lauri thought you were getting.

You’re right, for some reason I thought he was in his second season

[RakimAbdulJabar]

New Orleans would hang up the phone on this. You aren't getting Anthony Davis in a trade where LaVine is biggest asset. The 7th pick seems to be worth about as much as a 15th pick in most drafts.

I understand, but I don’t value AD anywhere near as much as most people. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he spends the majority of his remaining years on the injured list and personally wouldn’t want to give up much for a guy who is an injury waiting to happen and a quitter. Plus I’d hate to have to look at that face 82 games a season

[PrimzyBulls81]

HOU trades: Chris Paul
CHI trades: Zach Lavine, Felicio, Kris Dunn

Basically a swap for 3-year contracts b/w Paul and Lavine. Bulls get a "star" albeit a declining one. Houston gets younger and a couple bench pieces for their thin bench. Bulls draft BPA at #7 and sign a vet backup PG.

start: CP3, Culver/Hunter, Otto, Lauri, WCJ
bench: Collison / Dragic, Seldon, Hutch, 2nd round pick, WindyCityBulls person

hell NOO! Paul is declining and maybe already top 5 worst contracts in league..

[NewEra21]

Charlotte looks like a team that could be desperate to pay Kemba to stay afloat. They also have some pretty bad contracts. I would take on Zeller for a future 1st round pick with some type of protection. He is owed 15 mil over the next two years and has played an average of 48 games over the last 3 years. Stays in line with a 2021 off-season plan when his contract plus Porter Jr's would come off the books. Although he is injury prone, Zeller is pretty productive big when playing and would fit in nicely as we could use a backup 5 at this time given the how WCJ is still coming into his own and could still very well be prone to fouling.

[NewEra21]

Chicago receives:
Patty Mills G
#29 pick

San Antonio receives:
#38 pick

Why for San Antonio? With Pop still on board, San Antonio is probably not a candidate to tank or blow it up, that being said there is a potential logjam at the G position. Derrick White made his presence known this year. They have still have Forbes and Belinelli under contract. They also have Lonnie Walker who they drafted last year and Dejounte Murray coming back. A lot of guys who proabably deserve some playing time. Although none are getting 12.5 mil over the next two season like Mills. Might make sense for San Antonio to allocate that money to the front court this off season and let the young guys get some burn.

Why for Chicago? What have we heard all off season that Chicago wants? Pg, shooting, veteran leadership. Patty Mills has the ability to bring all three of these. His contract runs out in 2021, aligning with Otto Porter Jr. He's not a playmaker but he provides all the things outlined above. Were not just gonna magically gain a perfect PG. We take on his salary from the Spurs and move up 9 spots to do it. I know most will think its not big enough to take on his 12.5 mil salary but its pretty fair. 9 spots in 60 player draft is decent capital, especially when you move into the 1st round. Allows for the extra years of cheap team control. Obviously the draft is a crap shoot, but if he turns out to be a good, that extra year could be a godsend. Ask Milwaukee if they would like Malcolm Brogdan for another year at 2 mil...

[BigJimFinn]

Chicago receives:
Patty Mills G
#29 pick

San Antonio receives:
#38 pick

Why for San Antonio? With Pop still on board, San Antonio is probably not a candidate to tank or blow it up, that being said there is a potential logjam at the G position. Derrick White made his presence known this year. They have still have Forbes and Belinelli under contract. They also have Lonnie Walker who they drafted last year and Dejounte Murray coming back. A lot of guys who proabably deserve some playing time. Although none are getting 12.5 mil over the next two season like Mills. Might make sense for San Antonio to allocate that money to the front court this off season and let the young guys get some burn.

Why for Chicago? What have we heard all off season that Chicago wants? Pg, shooting, veteran leadership. Patty Mills has the ability to bring all three of these. His contract runs out in 2021, aligning with Otto Porter Jr. He's not a playmaker but he provides all the things outlined above. Were not just gonna magically gain a perfect PG. We take on his salary from the Spurs and move up 9 spots to do it. I know most will think its not big enough to take on his 12.5 mil salary but its pretty fair. 9 spots in 60 player draft is decent capital, especially when you move into the 1st round. Allows for the extra years of cheap team control. Obviously the draft is a crap shoot, but if he turns out to be a good, that extra year could be a godsend. Ask Milwaukee if they would like Malcolm Brogdan for another year at 2 mil...

I love Patty Mills, but he isn't a starting point guard. For the last two seasons Pop has preferred to start completely unproven second year players (Dejounte Murray, then Derrick White) ahead of him at point guard or with him playing SG. Patty and LaVine would be awful pairing defensively. If the Bulls draft a point guard with a commitment to make him start fairly soon, Patty could work as a temporary starter, but with $ 26M committed over two years I don't really see the point.

[StunnerKO]

Pop is in love with Patty Mills he’s retiring there

[NewEra21]

Chicago receives:
Patty Mills G
#29 pick

San Antonio receives:
#38 pick

Why for San Antonio? With Pop still on board, San Antonio is probably not a candidate to tank or blow it up, that being said there is a potential logjam at the G position. Derrick White made his presence known this year. They have still have Forbes and Belinelli under contract. They also have Lonnie Walker who they drafted last year and Dejounte Murray coming back. A lot of guys who proabably deserve some playing time. Although none are getting 12.5 mil over the next two season like Mills. Might make sense for San Antonio to allocate that money to the front court this off season and let the young guys get some burn.

Why for Chicago? What have we heard all off season that Chicago wants? Pg, shooting, veteran leadership. Patty Mills has the ability to bring all three of these. His contract runs out in 2021, aligning with Otto Porter Jr. He's not a playmaker but he provides all the things outlined above. Were not just gonna magically gain a perfect PG. We take on his salary from the Spurs and move up 9 spots to do it. I know most will think its not big enough to take on his 12.5 mil salary but its pretty fair. 9 spots in 60 player draft is decent capital, especially when you move into the 1st round. Allows for the extra years of cheap team control. Obviously the draft is a crap shoot, but if he turns out to be a good, that extra year could be a godsend. Ask Milwaukee if they would like Malcolm Brogdan for another year at 2 mil...

I love Patty Mills, but he isn't a starting point guard. For the last two seasons Pop has preferred to start completely unproven second year players (Dejounte Murray, then Derrick White) ahead of him at point guard or with him playing SG. Patty and LaVine would be awful pairing defensively. If the Bulls draft a point guard with a commitment to make him start fairly soon, Patty could work as a temporary starter, but with $ 26M committed over two years I don't really see the point.

Ideally he's not the starting PG. I get that. I thought of this with the idea that we are drafting a PG as Paxson has kinda already made it known that he wants one. Or we could also just go the complete veteran route and sign Beverly or Collison to a 2 year deal. There are options. But Patty does provide much needed consistent 3 pt shooting at the G position, and veteran experience. Playoff experience at that. He could be a big influence on the youngsters.

Everyone wants this perfect scenario to just fall in to the Bulls lap, (starting PG, young but also provides experience, shoots 3, makes plays for others, isnt a liability on defense) We just have to come to grips with that the fact that is just not going to happen. You're going to have to give up something.

And the two year thing works perfect. Paxson already admitted to punting on the offseason with the OPJ trade. As stated Patty's contract runs out in two years as well. It lines up. We dont want to a be a team with cap space next year. and feel the need to spend. The FA class is straight garbage. If this is their plan, id rather get some real solid vets on this team, have the young guys develop, make a decent playoff push (a la the Nets) and then go into 2021 with legitimate cap space and a legitimate team that championship caliber players will want to play for.

[TheHrvReport]

Not sure why people are suggesting we trade Dunn when his trade value is basically 0. I think we should keep him this year and give him one last chance, in hopes he has a miraculous turnaround or at least a Spencer Dinwiddie type season. He should absolutely 100% be coming off the bench though.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Bulls trade: 7, Felicio, Dunn
Nuggets trade: Monte Morris, MPJ, 2020 1st rounder

Bulls save some money and throw 3 years/75 million at Brogdon, but then a backup center finalizes the roster.

Morris’s advances numbers are near elite. MPJ is a high upside player, and the Bulls get a future asset and dump the headaches of Felicio and Dunn

Morris, Brogdon
Lavine, Brogdon, Denzel
Porter, MPJ, Hutch
Lauri, MPJ, Hutch
WCJ, FA center

[BullsFTW]

DRAFT DeAndre Hunter or Jarrett Culver at #7

TRADE
Bulls Get: Mike Conley Jr
Grizzlies Get: Otto Porter Jr

Hunter or Culver/Hutchison
Markkanen
Carter Jr
LaVine/Valentine
Conley/Dunn