Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[StunnerKO]

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[WindyCityBorn]

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I'd welcome this. Beverley or Rubio are are best options for starting PG next season regardless of who we draft. Much prefer to so sign of them to making a desperation trade for Ball. Keep our pick and draft the BPA.

[sco]

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I'd welcome this. Beverley or Rubio are are best options for starting PG next season regardless of who we draft. Much prefer to so sign of them to making a desperation trade for Ball. Keep our pick and draft the BPA.

The selling point for me on Beverly, Rubio and Satoransky is that there might be enough left to sign another rotation guy with cap space. Does anyone think any of them can be had for $12M/yr? Once you get about $14/yr, there isn't enough to do much left...better to put all the chips down on Brogdon.

[PrimzyBulls81]

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Holy crap, didnt know - Pat is Chicago native LOL.. COME HOME Beverley!!!

[d boy gentleman]

Ok, I'll give this a try...

Carter, Markkanen and 7 to the Pelicans for AD. I think that would get it done.

Stretch Felecio, renounce all free agents for cap space trade Dunn for 2nd rounder or a bag of balls.

Make the call to KD and say, hey we got AD and cap space to sign you and sign Beverly

Trot out...

Beverley

Lavine

Porter

KD

Vet big man

A guy can dream...

[NewEra21]

Ok, I'll give this a try...

Carter, Markkanen and 7 to the Pelicans for AD. I think that would get it done.

Stretch Felecio, renounce all free agents for cap space trade Dunn for 2nd rounder or a bag of balls.

Make the call to KD and say, hey we got AD and cap space to sign you and sign Beverly

Trot out...

Beverley

Lavine

Porter

KD

Vet big man

A guy can dream...

Not bad. Is it safe to assume AD is the vet big man or is he coming off the bench? Either way Im cool with it.

[gobullschi]

Ok, I'll give this a try...

Carter, Markkanen and 7 to the Pelicans for AD. I think that would get it done.

Stretch Felecio, renounce all free agents for cap space trade Dunn for 2nd rounder or a bag of balls.

Make the call to KD and say, hey we got AD and cap space to sign you and sign Beverly

Trot out...

Beverley

Lavine

Porter

KD

Vet big man

A guy can dream...

Trades for AD & forgets to put him in the line up.

[d boy gentleman]

Ok, I'll give this a try...

Carter, Markkanen and 7 to the Pelicans for AD. I think that would get it done.

Stretch Felecio, renounce all free agents for cap space trade Dunn for 2nd rounder or a bag of balls.

Make the call to KD and say, hey we got AD and cap space to sign you and sign Beverly

Trot out...

Beverley

Lavine

Porter

KD

Vet big man

A guy can dream...

Trades for AD & forgets to put him in the line up.

Man, I made that post late last night


But, everything else I said and Replace vet with AD

[sco]

Ok, I'll give this a try...

Carter, Markkanen and 7 to the Pelicans for AD. I think that would get it done.

Stretch Felecio, renounce all free agents for cap space trade Dunn for 2nd rounder or a bag of balls.

Make the call to KD and say, hey we got AD and cap space to sign you and sign Beverly

Trot out...

Beverley

Lavine

Porter

KD

Vet big man

A guy can dream...

Trades for AD & forgets to put him in the line up.

Man, I made that post late last night


But, everything else I said and Replace vet with AD

I think, at the end of the day, he'll come cheaper than that deal. I also think WCJ does little for NO with Lauri and Zion (who would be a great pairing). Lauri, 7 plus either Hutch or 38 may be enough.

[DanTown8587]

Ok, I'll give this a try...

Carter, Markkanen and 7 to the Pelicans for AD. I think that would get it done.

Stretch Felecio, renounce all free agents for cap space trade Dunn for 2nd rounder or a bag of balls.

Make the call to KD and say, hey we got AD and cap space to sign you and sign Beverly

Trot out...

Beverley

Lavine

Porter

KD

Vet big man

A guy can dream...

You spent all your cap space on trading for Davis so you definitely don't have cap space left to sign KD and then to get Beverly as well unless you think he's coming on a 3-4MM deal (room exception).

Would have to do something like Lavine to Utah for Favors non-guaranteed deal.

[DanTown8587]

I think the best way to get AD would be

Lauri, Dunn, Valentine, Taurean Prince, #7, #8 to New Orleans
Carter to Atlanta (for Prince + #8)
AD to Chicago

If you do that, you really want to have cap space in FA because Davis ain't staying to play with Lavine and Porter.

You trade Lavine to Utah for Favors (non-guaranteed + their first)
You trade Hutch + Blakney + Cash to Atlanta for #44
You buy pick #54 off Philly (they don't want that many rookies)

Your draft goes
#23 - Bruno Fernando
#44 - Jalen Lecque
#54 - Charles Matthews

Resign Lopez to a 3/10 deal
You then sign Durant to the max you have (he wants flexibility so he does a 1+1 at $36.6 instead of his $38.5 max).
You give the room exception to a PG (in order of hope - Rubio, Collison, Beverly, Rondo)
Sign the seconds to a 3 year deal (first two years guaranteed, last year non-guaranteed)
Sign Archi to a 3/6.5 deal with the last year a TO. Resign Selden to a 1/15 deal with his bird rights.
Sign Jeff Green, Vince Carter, Devin Harris to vet min deals

Your roster

Room PG / Archi / Devin Harris / Lecque (G-League)
Porter / Selden / Carter / Matthews
Durant / Green
Davis / Cunningham
Lopez / Fernando

4 guys - 2 spots (2 way guys, 2 rostered guys)
UDFA / battle for two-way - Jordan Norwell, Juwan Morgan, Sagaba Konate, Cody Martin

That's best case scenario under the Davis/Durant path

[sco]

I think the best way to get AD would be

Lauri, Dunn, Valentine, Taurean Prince, #7, #8 to New Orleans
Carter to Atlanta (for Prince + #8)
AD to Chicago

If you do that, you really want to have cap space in FA because Davis ain't staying to play with Lavine and Porter.

You trade Lavine to Utah for Favors (non-guaranteed + their first)
You trade Hutch + Blakney + Cash to Atlanta for #44
You buy pick #54 off Philly (they don't want that many rookies)

Your draft goes
#23 - Bruno Fernando
#44 - Jalen Lecque
#54 - Charles Matthews

Resign Lopez to a 3/10 deal
You then sign Durant to the max you have (he wants flexibility so he does a 1+1 at $36.6 instead of his $38.5 max).
You give the room exception to a PG (in order of hope - Rubio, Collison, Beverly, Rondo)
Sign the seconds to a 3 year deal (first two years guaranteed, last year non-guaranteed)
Sign Archi to a 3/6.5 deal with the last year a TO. Resign Selden to a 1/15 deal with his bird rights.
Sign Jeff Green, Vince Carter, Devin Harris to vet min deals

Your roster

Room PG / Archi / Devin Harris / Lecque (G-League)
Porter / Selden / Carter / Matthews
Durant / Green
Davis / Cunningham
Lopez / Fernando

4 guys - 2 spots (2 way guys, 2 rostered guys)
UDFA / battle for two-way - Jordan Norwell, Juwan Morgan, Sagaba Konate, Cody Martin

That requires a lot of suspension of disbelief, but I admire the imagination required to make it kinda work.

[DanTown8587]

I think the best way to get AD would be

Lauri, Dunn, Valentine, Taurean Prince, #7, #8 to New Orleans
Carter to Atlanta (for Prince + #8)
AD to Chicago

If you do that, you really want to have cap space in FA because Davis ain't staying to play with Lavine and Porter.

You trade Lavine to Utah for Favors (non-guaranteed + their first)
You trade Hutch + Blakney + Cash to Atlanta for #44
You buy pick #54 off Philly (they don't want that many rookies)

Your draft goes
#23 - Bruno Fernando
#44 - Jalen Lecque
#54 - Charles Matthews

Resign Lopez to a 3/10 deal
You then sign Durant to the max you have (he wants flexibility so he does a 1+1 at $36.6 instead of his $38.5 max).
You give the room exception to a PG (in order of hope - Rubio, Collison, Beverly, Rondo)
Sign the seconds to a 3 year deal (first two years guaranteed, last year non-guaranteed)
Sign Archi to a 3/6.5 deal with the last year a TO. Resign Selden to a 1/15 deal with his bird rights.
Sign Jeff Green, Vince Carter, Devin Harris to vet min deals

Your roster

Room PG / Archi / Devin Harris / Lecque (G-League)
Porter / Selden / Carter / Matthews
Durant / Green
Davis / Cunningham
Lopez / Fernando

4 guys - 2 spots (2 way guys, 2 rostered guys)
UDFA / battle for two-way - Jordan Norwell, Juwan Morgan, Sagaba Konate, Cody Martin

That requires a lot of suspension of disbelief, but I admire the imagination required to make it kinda work.

There are plenty of pitfalls there, no doubt. I make those trades knowing they aren't homeruns for the other teams but I can see and understand why they'd potentially do them (NO getting Lauri + 2 top 8 picks is probably as good as any other guy they're gonna get; Atlanta could argue Carter is a better prospect than 8; Utah getting a very good scorer who can be their sixth man helps them immensely considering their lack of scoring; Atlanta takes a flier on a former first for the cost of a mid 2nd a year later; Philly sells a pick seems a little against their style but they have so many other picks makes sense to sell the pick for a future one).

Obviously FA is a crap shoot (Durant might balk at that deal; room FA PG is a crap shoot for value; vets may or not want more than the vet min) but I just figured that's the best, most possible, legal under the CBA, way to get Durant and Davis. Not saying I'd try that since so much of it relies on hope (i.e trading all that for Davis on the hope of cap space) but probably worth a shot.

[BullsInBuffalo]

Since I don’t see AD being a realistic option at all, what do you guys think about give Brogdon his money and then trading Dunn and 36 for a future protected first. Would someone bite on that?

[panthermark]

Since I don’t see AD being a realistic option at all, what do you guys think about give Brogdon his money and then trading Dunn and 36 for a future protected first. Would someone bite on that?

Nope, no one wants Dunn.
Sign Brog, and Dunn becomes Marcus Smart for a season...then he is gone (unless he re-signs for dirt cheap).

[kodo]

Bulls ignore the 3 more than any other team in the league and we don’t want Dunn, he’s going to be even more unattractive to the rest of the league.

The best use of Dunn is to keep him and see if there’s improvement and then trade. I know most people say that’s impossible, but that was also said about Niko.

[sco]

Since I don’t see AD being a realistic option at all, what do you guys think about give Brogdon his money and then trading Dunn and 36 for a future protected first. Would someone bite on that?

On board with Brogdon 100%!

I think Dunn is (rightly) viewed around the league as a back-up PG with limited upside. Nobody gives value for that. Maybe we can use his contract to trade for a better player on a worse contract to fill a hole.

[imagge]

Brogdon is not the PG for this team his lack of playmaking was glaring in the playoffs

[sco]

Brogdon is not the PG for this team his lack of playmaking was glaring in the playoffs

I saw that to a certain extent, but he has be relegated to the role of SG on MIL because Giannis is a ball dominant playmaker for them.

[Ccwatercraft]

I think the best way to get AD would be

Lauri, Dunn, Valentine, Taurean Prince, #7, #8 to New Orleans
Carter to Atlanta (for Prince + #8)
AD to Chicago

If you do that, you really want to have cap space in FA because Davis ain't staying to play with Lavine and Porter.

You trade Lavine to Utah for Favors (non-guaranteed + their first)
You trade Hutch + Blakney + Cash to Atlanta for #44
You buy pick #54 off Philly (they don't want that many rookies)

Your draft goes
#23 - Bruno Fernando
#44 - Jalen Lecque
#54 - Charles Matthews

Resign Lopez to a 3/10 deal
You then sign Durant to the max you have (he wants flexibility so he does a 1+1 at $36.6 instead of his $38.5 max).
You give the room exception to a PG (in order of hope - Rubio, Collison, Beverly, Rondo)
Sign the seconds to a 3 year deal (first two years guaranteed, last year non-guaranteed)
Sign Archi to a 3/6.5 deal with the last year a TO. Resign Selden to a 1/15 deal with his bird rights.
Sign Jeff Green, Vince Carter, Devin Harris to vet min deals

Your roster

Room PG / Archi / Devin Harris / Lecque (G-League)
Porter / Selden / Carter / Matthews
Durant / Green
Davis / Cunningham
Lopez / Fernando

4 guys - 2 spots (2 way guys, 2 rostered guys)
UDFA / battle for two-way - Jordan Norwell, Juwan Morgan, Sagaba Konate, Cody Martin

That requires a lot of suspension of disbelief, but I admire the imagination required to make it kinda work.

I was hoping to bring in klay as a super 6th man as well, then were stacked!