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Wizards 2019 Draft Thread - Part II

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Re: Wizards 2019 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#121 » by Shoe » Sat May 25, 2019 5:33 pm

Trade Beal for 4 + 7 (Lonzo to chicago). Now have 4, 7, 9.

New wizards starting five 8-)

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Re: Wizards 2019 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#122 » by payitforward » Sat May 25, 2019 6:40 pm

Shoe wrote:Trade Beal for 4 + 7 (Lonzo to chicago). Now have 4, 7, 9.

New wizards starting five 8-)

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Is that an Issuf Sanon sighting...?

You want to pick Doumbouya, Samanic & Bitadze at 4, 7 & 9?? No.

Trade the 4 & the 9 for the 8, 10, 35, 42 & 43. Then you trade the 7 for the 14, 20 & 22. Gives us eight rookies.

I've got an even better idea! Trade the 4, 7 & 9 for the entire R2 -- 30 rookies! I love it!
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Re: Wizards 2019 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#123 » by bsilver » Sat May 25, 2019 10:12 pm

payitforward wrote:
Shoe wrote:Trade Beal for 4 + 7 (Lonzo to chicago). Now have 4, 7, 9.

New wizards starting five 8-)

...

Is that an Issuf Sanon sighting...?

You want to pick Doumbouya, Samanic & Bitadze at 4, 7 & 9?? No.

Trade the 4 & the 9 for the 8, 10, 35, 42 & 43. Then you trade the 7 for the 14, 20 & 22. Gives us eight rookies.

I've got an even better idea! Trade the 4, 7 & 9 for the entire R2 -- 30 rookies! I love it!

You would think a player worth a mid 2nd round pick would at least put up decent numbers in a mediocre European league. Wonder if Tommy Sheppard was involved with the Sanon decision?
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Post#124 » by payitforward » Sun May 26, 2019 2:34 am

Good question. In one sense, I'm sure he was -- you & I both know that the conceited Mr. Grunfeld wasn't lowering himself to scout any R2 targets.
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Re: Wizards 2019 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#125 » by Shoe » Sun May 26, 2019 6:32 am

payitforward wrote:
Shoe wrote:Trade Beal for 4 + 7 (Lonzo to chicago). Now have 4, 7, 9.

New wizards starting five 8-)

...

Is that an Issuf Sanon sighting...?

You want to pick Doumbouya, Samanic & Bitadze at 4, 7 & 9?? No.

Trade the 4 & the 9 for the 8, 10, 35, 42 & 43. Then you trade the 7 for the 14, 20 & 22. Gives us eight rookies.

I've got an even better idea! Trade the 4, 7 & 9 for the entire R2 -- 30 rookies! I love it!


I've changed my tune. I support keeping Beal and taking Brandon Clarke at 9. PJ Washington as well possibly. The problem is you cannot trade down because I believe those two are going in the lottery.
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Post#126 » by taj2133 » Sun May 26, 2019 6:33 am

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Post#127 » by dckingsfan » Sun May 26, 2019 12:53 pm

I guess if Deandre Hunter fell he wouldn't make it past the Hawks?

I see several mocks that have us taking Jaxson Hayes? Any thoughts on him?
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Post#128 » by Dat2U » Sun May 26, 2019 1:10 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I guess if Deandre Hunter fell he wouldn't make it past the Hawks?

I see several mocks that have us taking Jaxson Hayes? Any thoughts on him?


I like Hayes and think he'll be solid in time but the league is overrun his archetype at the C position. There are plenty of athletic rim runners available and its hard to make a case that we should use our only draft pick to add one. If I'm grabbing a C, I'm looking for an alternative to Thomas Bryant, not a guy who's somewhat similar.
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Post#129 » by dckingsfan » Sun May 26, 2019 1:16 pm

Dat2U wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I guess if Deandre Hunter fell he wouldn't make it past the Hawks?

I see several mocks that have us taking Jaxson Hayes? Any thoughts on him?

I like Hayes and think he'll be solid in time but the league is overrun his archetype at the C position. There are plenty of athletic rim runners available and its hard to make a case that we should use our only draft pick to add one. If I'm grabbing a C, I'm looking for an alternative to Thomas Bryant, not a guy who's somewhat similar.

Gotcha. One thing about Thomas Bryant - I think he could be a better PF than C in the L over time. Most of that will be how he works on his body.
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Post#130 » by mhd » Sun May 26, 2019 1:46 pm

Unless there is a trade for AD, I think the top 4 is set:

1) NO-Zion
2) Mem-Ja
3) Knicks-Barrett
4) LAL-Garland (too much of a chasm between Garland and the rest)

After that, I think:
5) Cavs-Reddish (I do think they'll consider home run picks of Sekou and Bol considering their market. Reddish looks the part. The Cavs need to shoot for home runs)
6) Suns-White (I think this pick is in play as a trade. If they keep it, they take White begrudgingly).
7) Bulls-Hunter (I think they want to trade down if they can't grab a PG. If not, then Hunter is a solid pick who gives them a role player at the 3/4)
8) Hawks-Culver (Actually a good spot for him as he'll be surrounded by shooters in Young and Huerter)
9) Wiz-Sekou (I do think they want to trade down if they can)
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Post#131 » by dckingsfan » Sun May 26, 2019 1:48 pm

mhd wrote:Unless there is a trade for AD, I think the top 4 is set:

1) NO-Zion
2) Mem-Ja
3) Knicks-Barrett
4) LAL-Garland (too much of a chasm between Garland and the rest)

After that, I think:
5) Cavs-Reddish (I do think they'll consider home run picks of Sekou and Bol considering their market. Reddish looks the part. The Cavs need to shoot for home runs)
6) Suns-White (I think this pick is in play as a trade. If they keep it, they take White begrudgingly).
7) Bulls-Hunter (I think they want to trade down if they can't grab a PG. If not, then Hunter is a solid pick who gives them a role player at the 3/4)
8) Hawks-Culver (Actually a good spot for him as he'll be surrounded by shooters in Young and Huerter)
9) Wiz-Sekou (I do think they want to trade down if they can)

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Post#132 » by closg00 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:28 pm

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Post#133 » by nate33 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:37 pm

dckingsfan wrote:One thing about Thomas Bryant - I think he could be a better PF than C in the L over time. Most of that will be how he works on his body.

No way. Bryant does not have the foot speed to play PF at all. He's a center. If he continues to develop his offensive skillset so that he is as good offensively as many PF's, that would be great. But it wouldn't make him a PF. It would make him a center with exceptional offensive skill.
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Post#134 » by nate33 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:49 pm

mhd wrote:Unless there is a trade for AD, I think the top 4 is set:

1) NO-Zion
2) Mem-Ja
3) Knicks-Barrett
4) LAL-Garland (too much of a chasm between Garland and the rest)

After that, I think:
5) Cavs-Reddish (I do think they'll consider home run picks of Sekou and Bol considering their market. Reddish looks the part. The Cavs need to shoot for home runs)
6) Suns-White (I think this pick is in play as a trade. If they keep it, they take White begrudgingly).
7) Bulls-Hunter (I think they want to trade down if they can't grab a PG. If not, then Hunter is a solid pick who gives them a role player at the 3/4)
8) Hawks-Culver (Actually a good spot for him as he'll be surrounded by shooters in Young and Huerter)
9) Wiz-Sekou (I do think they want to trade down if they can)

If the Cavs do indeed take Reddish, it really does seem like White, Hunter and Culver go next. I don't know if they'll go in the order that you have predicted, but it doesn't really matter for our purposes. Maybe The Suns don't like White and take Hunter or Culver (or trade out) instead. But then the Bulls will likely take White and the Hawks will take whoever is left between Hunter and Culver.

Interestingly, if it pans out this way, then slipping from 6 to 9 in the lottery didn't really hurt us. I don't think any of us are dying to get one of White, Culver or Hunter.

If we don't trade down, I'm inclined to agree that Doumbouya is probably the best bet at #9. I really do like some of the other bigs we've discussed in this thread lately though (Goga, Samanic, and Clarke). I'd really love to trade down and get two of those guys a bit later in the draft.
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Post#135 » by dckingsfan » Sun May 26, 2019 5:19 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:One thing about Thomas Bryant - I think he could be a better PF than C in the L over time. Most of that will be how he works on his body.

No way. Bryant does not have the foot speed to play PF at all. He's a center. If he continues to develop his offensive skillset so that he is as good offensively as many PF's, that would be great. But it wouldn't make him a PF. It would make him a center with exceptional offensive skill.

Well, I think there is two ways for him to go - work on his "quickness" or work on his "strength". I think that he does have the foot speed to play PF. But it is definitely going to be tougher to get there.

Having said all that - I can understand your opinion on that - and probably it would be shared by a majority.

BTW, the reason I ask is if we think he could be part of an effective back court with someone like the Knick's Robinson.
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Post#136 » by dckingsfan » Sun May 26, 2019 5:24 pm

nate33 wrote:I really do like some of the other bigs we've discussed in this thread lately though (Goga, Samanic, and Clarke). I'd really love to trade down and get two of those guys a bit later in the draft.

9 for 14 and 20 would be really nice given where we are at...
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Post#137 » by nate33 » Sun May 26, 2019 6:28 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:One thing about Thomas Bryant - I think he could be a better PF than C in the L over time. Most of that will be how he works on his body.

No way. Bryant does not have the foot speed to play PF at all. He's a center. If he continues to develop his offensive skillset so that he is as good offensively as many PF's, that would be great. But it wouldn't make him a PF. It would make him a center with exceptional offensive skill.

Well, I think there is two ways for him to go - work on his "quickness" or work on his "strength". I think that he does have the foot speed to play PF. But it is definitely going to be tougher to get there.

Having said all that - I can understand your opinion on that - and probably it would be shared by a majority.

BTW, the reason I ask is if we think he could be part of an effective back court with someone like the Knick's Robinson.

I don't think he could work alongside Robinson unless Robinson is guarding the opposition's PF. That said, I think that Bryant's potential versatility of offense will allow the team to one day play a non-shooting PF if that PF is exceptional at other aspects of the game (a Draymond type of player). It's why I'm open-minded to drafting Clarke.
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Post#138 » by ozthegap » Mon May 27, 2019 2:02 am

I think id be alright with us getting Sekuo. i no has a few flaws, but honestly i think we are going to have to trade beal and rebuild pretty soon. we can afford to draft someone rough around the edges.
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Post#139 » by prime1time » Mon May 27, 2019 3:31 am

Ideally Cam falls to us at 9. I feel like with Beal on the floor Cam will be in a position where he can attack and not have the defense focused on him. He might have an Otto Porter esque rookie season, but if he improves his steadily I can see him ultimately becoming the player that we hoped Otto would be.

Assuming that Cam goes before we pick, I'm taking Sekou. I'm not really interested in Hayes and Bol is way too risky to draft. The one that I could see us taking other than Sekou is Little. At 6'6 with a 7'2 wingspan, 220 pounds and an athletic frame Little is a tantalizing prospect. I wouldn't be mad if we took him at 9.

The thing I love about Sekou is that he just naturally plays the game the right way. Rotates on defense, doesn't force shots, makes the right pass etc. The one concern, though is that Sekou is so young. He reminds me of what Fran Fraschilla said about Bruno Caboclo way back when he was drafted, "He's two years away from being two years away." Without knowing what this teams plan is going forward, it's hard to pencil a player in that will play half the season at 18. But the upside is there. Dude could still be growing, he turned 18 December 23 and he already shows an outside shot. At the same time I can see it being 6 years before he's really ready to legitimately contribute.
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