2019 NBA draft part deux

[Worm Guts]

All 2019 draft discussion goes here.

[Norseman79]

Rui is said to lack awareness and basketball instinct. I have not watched every game he has played in, I will trust the Wolves scouts on this, but if he has low b-ball iq/awareness stay away. I would take Clarke over Rui all day, and I am not a huge Clark fan.

[SmokeyPaw]

Why are you guys so down on Bol? He could easily turn out to be a steal @ 11

The fear is that he gets played of the court frequently like Bobo.

Havent seen any of his games myself, just clips. One issue you can see from clips is he has problems when he needs to change direction. He can look somewhat fluid on the move. But there is a clip where he's going right, guy crosses over to the left and Bol falls over trying to change direction. Looked like a giraffe on roller skates.

Just a weird combination of major strengths and major weaknesses.

So you write him off because he got crossed one time? He could turn out to be a star next to Towns, similar to how Porzingis always started at the 4

I did not say I wouldnt draft him based on one play - its an example of a concern over change of direction that a number of draft analysts have cited regarding him.

There are also major concerns about his strength, motivation and feet. Maybe his motivation and feet are ok and his strengths( length, shooting) can compensate for obvious physical limitations. Or maybe he's just unplayable and busts completely. Or maybe like Bobo he's only playable in limited situations.

If you like him fine. But not everyone is going to be enthused.

[Domejandro]

Kristaps and Towns are both substantially more mobile laterally than Bol Bol is. He is an impressive athlete, but being weak in that one area is an absolute killer in pick-and-roll defense.

[Mattya]

Free agency needs to start before the draft.

[Domejandro]

Free agency needs to start before the draft.

I fully agree, it would make facilitating trades for cap-space significantly easier, and would add a lot of depth to surrounding free-agents with players that compliment them.

That aside, I am not opposed to trading down to draft Tyler Herro. I think he would be an excellent option to develop for a couple years, he is going to be a quality player long-term.

[TheDominator273]

Kristaps and Towns are both substantially more mobile laterally than Bol Bol is. He is an impressive athlete, but being weak in that one area is an absolute killer in pick-and-roll defense.

I mean he's 7'2" and somehow only weighs 208 pounds as well, that's insane and doesn't bode well for being able to stay healthy as a big in the NBA.

Rui is said to lack awareness and basketball instinct. I have not watched every game he has played in, I will trust the Wolves scouts on this, but if he has low b-ball iq/awareness stay away. I would take Clarke over Rui all day, and I am not a huge Clark fan.

The full game tape is out there to watch, have a look for yourself but I don't see a low IQ player when watching Rui. He has lapses sure but just a couple years ago he knew almost no English and he is still very new to basketball. His motor, physical skills, and all around game gives him a good floor and a high ceiling.

[Calinks]

Bol Bol is the kind of guy I just may gamble on at 11. Yea it could def go horribly. There is also a chance you could have a fan favorite game changer. The juice may be worth the squeeze. I'd really have to weigh my options there. I'm not opposed to taking a big risk if there is huge boom potential this late in the lottery.

[wesleyt95]

Bol Bol is the kind of guy I just may gamble on at 11. Yea it could def go horribly. There is also a chance you could have a fan favorite game changer. The juice may be worth the squeeze. I'd really have to weigh my options there. I'm not opposed to taking a big risk if there is huge boom potential this late in the lottery.

Yea I don't think he's that much more of a gamble compared to Rui or Clarke at 11

[Mattya]

Dallas Mavericks standout Luka Doncic had his record for best PER by a teenager in EuroLeague history broken by Goga Bitadze. Bitadze has declared for the 2019 NBA Draft in June and is someone to watch.

Saw this in another teams draft thread. Not sure where its source is, but impressive if true.

[Norseman79]

Clarke has a very high floor. His ceiling may not be super high, but his floor is. Again, I am not a huge Clarke guy, but undervaluing his worth as a bench/highly productive role player is wrong. If he as 6"10 with a 7'+ wingspan he would be a top 5 pick.

[KGdaBom]

Clarke has a very high floor. His ceiling may not be super high, but his floor is. Again, I am not a huge Clarke guy, but undervaluing his worth as a bench/highly productive role player is wrong. If he as 6"10 with a 7'+ wingspan he would be a top 5 pick.

It's nice to have a long wingspan. It's even better to play basketball very, very well. Clarke plays basketball very, very, well.

[GeekFreak]

Bol ...can't think of his first name at the moment... was listed at 230 something when he was playing at Oregon, and from the highlights I watched that's what he looked like. I assume the weight loss has to do with taking weight off his foot and it won't be hard to get back to the 230 threshold. 208 would be pretty freakishly skinny. He carries most of his weight in his glutes, he'll probably never have much upper body strength.

[Norseman79]

Clarke has a very high floor. His ceiling may not be super high, but his floor is. Again, I am not a huge Clarke guy, but undervaluing his worth as a bench/highly productive role player is wrong. If he as 6"10 with a 7'+ wingspan he would be a top 5 pick.

It's nice to have a long wingspan. It's even better to play basketball very, very well. Clarke plays basketball very, very, well.

better than Rui, thats for sure.

[GeekFreak]

Clarke has a very high floor. His ceiling may not be super high, but his floor is. Again, I am not a huge Clarke guy, but undervaluing his worth as a bench/highly productive role player is wrong. If he as 6"10 with a 7'+ wingspan he would be a top 5 pick.

It's nice to have a long wingspan. It's even better to play basketball very, very well. Clarke plays basketball very, very, well.

better than Rui, thats for sure.

Wingspan has proven over and over to be a really important factor in the NBA, you can't really dismiss it as nothing. The only advantage to shorter arms is perhaps in shooting where you have a more compact stroke with less to go wrong (just ask Gianas how them long arms can mess ya up). Personally I would rather take my chances with Rui over Clarke, but have no problem with people that love Clarksie.

[wildvikeswolves]

I wouldn’t be mad if Clarke was the pick. I’m sure he would win everyone over like Okogie did. I just prefer a shot at a high upside guy. I’d rather take a shot at the upside of Rui and don’t see the low IQ that’s being said.

[minimus]

Watch on YouTube

I'm impressed. I'd rather trade down and take him and NAW than Bol Bol or Clarke at #11.

[GeekFreak]

Watch on YouTube

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I'm impressed. I'd rather trade down and take him and NAW than Bol Bol or Clarke at #11.

Very intriqued! Looks like a bigger even more beastly version of Montrezl Harrell. Must be some glaring negatives that he looks like a top 5 pick and isn't projected to go top 20? I love me some AGGRESSION! Between him and Okoge I would be in ecstacy.

[minimus]

Very intriqued! Looks like a bigger even more beastly version of Montrezl Harrell. Must be some glaring negatives that he looks like a top 5 pick and isn't projected to go top 20? I love me some AGGRESSION! Between him and Okoge I would be in ecstacy.

Watched every single game he's played (I'm a maryland fan) and I genuinely feel like this guy will be a steal. Like the bam comparison. He plays with crazy passion and he's gotten a lot better passing in the post and in the nba he won't be doubled as much so I don't see that as a big issue anyway. Post moves have gotten substantially better since last season and his shot is better than you'd imagine given he rarely shoots, but his ft% might indicate he's a little better long range than he lets on. And being coached by turgeon doesn't help his stock at all. But he's just an uber athlete which always helps. Great defender and he runs the floor constantly. Really like his fit in today's game. Won't be a volume scorer and I don't know where he'll be picked but he'll definitely have a role somewhere

So I’ve watched every Maryland game this year and I’ll try and give you a little insight.

I love Bruno and I think he’s gonna end up being a steal for someone in the mid-late lottery, if not even later. There are two main reasons he most likely won’t go top 5: 1) The center depth in the league is as deep as it has ever been, and most teams drafting high don’t really need a center; 2) He lacks superstar potential. While I think he will be a top end starter in the league in a few years, he lacks the elite size or feel necessary to be a superstar center like Embiid and Jokic. Many teams favor rolling the dice on a guy with more upside at a position of more need. Also, in spite of his great shot blocking ability, he does have major defensive concerns. Like most young bigs, he struggles with fouling, though he showed enormous improvement year 1 -> year 2. While he is an incredible athlete and unbelievably explosive for his size, he’s a little slow laterally and not someone who can guard perimeter players for extended periods of time. Lastly, while I love his mentality and emotional play style, his focus waxes and wanes, particularly early in games, and that has led to too many easy buckets for Maryland’s opponents.

I don’t think the Adebayo comparison is accurate, Bruno is a little less mobile and way more skilled as a prospect. I think his ceiling is probably a more athletic Vucevic and his floor is solid backup big. I have a lot of faith in him reaching his full potential, he has an incredible work ethic and a natural touch, and I’m personally rooting for him to be drafted by LA or San Antonio.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/ba1ob1/why_arent_more_people_talking_about_bruno_fernando/

[minimus]

I wonder if we should follow MIA path and draft in 2nd round a raw, athletic, with potential both in defense and offense player and develop them. Let say trade #11 to Brooklyn #17 and #31. Draft NAW, Matisse Thybulle, Lecque.

KAT/Dieng/???
Saric/KBD/???
RoCo/Reynolds/Thybulle
Wiggins/Okogie/NAW
Tyus/NAW/Lecque