ImageImage

Villanueva being sent down to TripleA ?

Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis, humanrefutation

GrandAdmiralDan
RealGM
Posts: 15,158
And1: 1,427
Joined: Jul 24, 2004
Location: New Berlin, WI (Milwaukee)
Contact:
     

Villanueva being sent down to TripleA ? 

Post#1 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:28 am

I only caught the tail end of them mentioning this on the WSSP PostGame show, but they mentioned that Villanueva is being sent down to TripleA temporarily and Seth McClung is being brought up. Something about wanting to "stretch Villanueva out" or something.

But Yost also mentioned something about Villanueva not coming back as a starter, but remaining a one inning guy for the 7th inning or 8th inning.

:dontknow:

Is Villanueva going to be put into the starting rotation leaving Parra (and Capuano) in the bullpen? I don't understand why we don't just give Parra some starts...

Can someone please clear all this up for me?
I am confused...
97-98
Nick Van Exel (LAL) on defending the Stockton-Malone pick-and-roll: "Yeah,
I got a way to defend it. Bring a bat to the game and kill one of them."
User avatar
Buck You
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 37,555
And1: 541
Joined: Jul 24, 2006
Location: Illinois
     

 

Post#2 » by Buck You » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:43 am

Why would they do that? That sounds pretty stupid to me, especially after Villanueva's great outting today.
goirish2107
Rookie
Posts: 1,237
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
Location: Milwaukee

 

Post#3 » by goirish2107 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:55 am

the only reference i've ever heard to stretching someone out is to prepare them to start. my guess is that he finally gets his chance to start when the 5 spot comes up again, and he has from now till then to "stretch out".
User avatar
Wade-A-Holic
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 8,055
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 09, 2003

 

Post#4 » by Wade-A-Holic » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:59 am

Yost wants him to get himself right so that he can be the 6th and 7th inning guy again and he also wants to get a look at McClung, who's been on fire in AAA since we acquired him for Ball-four.
User avatar
wichmae
RealGM
Posts: 16,762
And1: 1,060
Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Location: Milwaukee

 

Post#5 » by wichmae » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:07 am

CV will be stretching himself out down in AAA.
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 101,556
And1: 54,803
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

 

Post#6 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:35 pm

It brings another fresh arm up. CV just pitched 3 innings, he won't be able to go again for a couple of days. McClung hasn't pitched since Friday. It's a way of keeping a full pen. They may do more of this juggling in the next 10 days until the roster is expanded.
GrandAdmiralDan
RealGM
Posts: 15,158
And1: 1,427
Joined: Jul 24, 2004
Location: New Berlin, WI (Milwaukee)
Contact:
     

 

Post#7 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:34 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:It brings another fresh arm up. CV just pitched 3 innings, he won't be able to go again for a couple of days. McClung hasn't pitched since Friday. It's a way of keeping a full pen. They may do more of this juggling in the next 10 days until the roster is expanded.


Thanks for the info.
What kind of limits are there on how often you can do something like that?
97-98

Nick Van Exel (LAL) on defending the Stockton-Malone pick-and-roll: "Yeah,

I got a way to defend it. Bring a bat to the game and kill one of them."
mnstinks
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,654
And1: 43
Joined: Jun 28, 2006

 

Post#8 » by mnstinks » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:48 pm

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


What kind of limits are there on how often you can do something like that?



Depends on how many options a player has. I think he has two left (now one).

Most likely we will see Gallardo in the pen in September, with Parra being "shut down" to rest, when he is recalled for September 1 roster expansion, and hopefully a playoff roster.
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 101,556
And1: 54,803
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

 

Post#9 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:36 pm

Yeah they have to be careful not to use up anyones options but right now it's all about trying to win. If a picher can't be used for a couple of days and has options, ship him out. We only have to do this for the next 10 days.
User avatar
brewcityboii
Rookie
Posts: 1,128
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 28, 2007
Location: BRETT FAVRE >> Any other QB in NFL History!!!

 

Post#10 » by brewcityboii » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:41 pm

Anyone know how many options a player gets per year?
BuckPack
Starter
Posts: 2,205
And1: 802
Joined: May 05, 2006
Location: NY

 

Post#11 » by BuckPack » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:58 pm

mnstinks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Most likely we will see Gallardo in the pen in September, with Parra being "shut down" to rest, when he is recalled for September 1 roster expansion, and hopefully a playoff roster.


not unless Cappy suddenly rediscovers an ability to actually pitch effectively far more than 4 innings. so long as we're still in the pennant race and gallardo's recent outings (last night notwithstanding) remain a thing of the past, I'd be SHOCKED if he's moved out of the lineup. I know they don't want to tax his arm, but we really don't have any options. They're more likely to shut down someone like Parra (again, also unlikely) than put Gallardo in the pen, IMO. Still, neither of those things will happen unless we're out of the race (in which case I'd applaud the move), or Cappy, McClung et al. can effectively replace Gallardo/Parra.
User avatar
livestrong4ever
General Manager
Posts: 9,099
And1: 145
Joined: Jun 23, 2005
Location: Roaring down the river.
Contact:
     

 

Post#12 » by livestrong4ever » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:35 pm

why would they put gallardo in the pen in sepetember that makes no sense at all..
User avatar
Buck You
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 37,555
And1: 541
Joined: Jul 24, 2006
Location: Illinois
     

 

Post#13 » by Buck You » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:37 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:why would they put gallardo in the pen in sepetember that makes no sense at all..


Rest his arm.
mnstinks
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,654
And1: 43
Joined: Jun 28, 2006

 

Post#14 » by mnstinks » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:03 pm

brewcityboii wrote:Anyone know how many options a player gets per year?



It depends.

Players on the 40 man roster can get optioned unlimited times, I believe, until he is on the roster for 3 years.
User avatar
livestrong4ever
General Manager
Posts: 9,099
And1: 145
Joined: Jun 23, 2005
Location: Roaring down the river.
Contact:
     

 

Post#15 » by livestrong4ever » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:56 pm

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Rest his arm.


In the middle of a race to make the playoffs? He is the second best starter on this team.
mnstinks
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,654
And1: 43
Joined: Jun 28, 2006

 

Post#16 » by mnstinks » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:27 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



In the middle of a race to make the playoffs? He is the second best starter on this team.


He won't be if he blows his arm out. Same with Parra.
User avatar
livestrong4ever
General Manager
Posts: 9,099
And1: 145
Joined: Jun 23, 2005
Location: Roaring down the river.
Contact:
     

 

Post#17 » by livestrong4ever » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:39 pm

mnstinks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



He won't be if he blows his arm out. Same with Parra.


They have been keeping his pitch count low. He has had 67 IP this year.

I think he will be ok in september. He has never pitched more then 6 innings.
User avatar
Buck You
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 37,555
And1: 541
Joined: Jul 24, 2006
Location: Illinois
     

 

Post#18 » by Buck You » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:08 am

livestrong4ever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



They have been keeping his pitch count low. He has had 67 IP this year.

I think he will be ok in september. He has never pitched more then 6 innings.


That's what they thought about Prior..
User avatar
livestrong4ever
General Manager
Posts: 9,099
And1: 145
Joined: Jun 23, 2005
Location: Roaring down the river.
Contact:
     

 

Post#19 » by livestrong4ever » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:26 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That's what they thought about Prior..


Prior had 116 IP his rookies year. PLus whatever he had in the minors
Gallardo has 67, so far. PLus whatever he had in the minors

Prior then went to 212 . When he was 22. He is a power pitcher. Gallardo isnt a power pitcher.


If the brewers limit his pitch count like they have been doing I dont think there will be any problem at all.
User avatar
trwi7
RealGM
Posts: 111,675
And1: 27,265
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
Location: Aussie bias
         

 

Post#20 » by trwi7 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:27 am

livestrong4ever wrote:He has had 67 IP this year.


He's actually at 145 innings this year. Of course his limit should be about 175 innings so maybe one more start, then Sheets comes back and he goes to the bullpen and then if we make the playoffs he can start a few games.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."


I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.

Return to Milwaukee Brewers