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Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#361 » by Marty McFly » Mon May 27, 2019 7:30 pm

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awy wrote:im just puzzled by this sudden upsurge in RJ fandom. he has some chance of being a positive player, sure. but you need to squint pretty hard to see it.

if you factor in how he has been trained by the best trainers and in the best possible team hierarchies through all his life, that rate of improvement seems way off for someone you would project a big leap in the NBA. dude's trained with pro trainers for years and still can't shoot but think he's kobe.

that's not what you look for in a player unless you are RJ's agent trying to use the knicks for his guy's advantage.


This isn’t some surge. He was always going to be a top 3 pick. When the lotto happened, I made a thread with the idea that he was gonna be the 3rd pick before this “upsurge in fandom” took place, because he was already a consensus top 3 pick

he was the top ranked player for the class of 2019. upsurge in fandom is a funny take on him. :lol:

i was hoping we got the 1st pick in the draft to draft him, before the college bball season started and Zion showed out.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#362 » by Fury » Mon May 27, 2019 7:34 pm

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awy wrote:im just puzzled by this sudden upsurge in RJ fandom. he has some chance of being a positive player, sure. but you need to squint pretty hard to see it.

if you factor in how he has been trained by the best trainers and in the best possible team hierarchies through all his life, that rate of improvement seems way off for someone you would project a big leap in the NBA. dude's trained with pro trainers for years and still can't shoot but think he's kobe.

that's not what you look for in a player unless you are RJ's agent trying to use the knicks for his guy's advantage.


This isn’t some surge. He was always going to be a top 3 pick. When the lotto happened, I made a thread with the idea that he was gonna be the 3rd pick before this “upsurge in fandom” took place, because he was already a consensus top 3 pick

he was the top ranked player for the class of 2019. upsurge in fandom is a funny take on him. :lol:

i was hoping we got the 1st pick in the draft to draft him, before the college bball season started and Zion showed out.


Same. Reminds me of Darnold before the Jets tanked. I wanted Darnold before the college season started but then kinda grew to like Rosen. Sometimes we get it right the first time.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#363 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon May 27, 2019 7:35 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:A lot of this discourse reminds me of the year of the KP draft and how so many was just so sold on Mudiay as being the "pick".

Of course I'm not claiming RJ to be Mudiay at all, but just that this draft has a lot of options for the team to choose, which is probably why we are getting no real info on which direction they might go in other than speculation.

The consensus pick at #3 has been the right pick about 60% of the time since 2003. Good not great.

Knicks need to look at every option, however unpopular that might be.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#364 » by Fury » Mon May 27, 2019 7:36 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:A lot of this discourse reminds me of the year of the KP draft and how so many was just so sold on Mudiay as being the "pick".

Of course I'm not claiming RJ to be Mudiay at all, but just that this draft has a lot of options for the team to choose, which is probably why we are getting no real info on which direction they might go in other than speculation.

The consensus pick at #3 has been the right pick about 60% of the time since 2003. Good not great.

Knicks need to look at every option, however unpopular that might be.


60% is really good
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#365 » by Tron Carter » Mon May 27, 2019 7:39 pm

moocow007 wrote:As far as what the Knicks should do at 3?

Um, you don't over think it and take whichever of Morant or Barrett is on the board? Even if the plan is to trade it, 99.44% of the teams that would want to trade would want whomever is left of Morant or Barrett. Not any of the other schlebs left. Let's just be serious.

The debate should be what to do with the 55th pick (for now, until and unless they acquire another pick...which they should).

My focus would be on the following guys (one or more may not be available by 55):

Terance Mann (FSU) - 6'7" 215lb Wing



CJ Massinburg (Buffalo) - 6'3" 195lb G

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Jalen McDaneils (SDSU) - 6'10" 200lbs F



Naz Reid (LSU) - 6'10" 250lb C

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#366 » by Thugger HBC » Mon May 27, 2019 7:39 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:A lot of this discourse reminds me of the year of the KP draft and how so many was just so sold on Mudiay as being the "pick".

Of course I'm not claiming RJ to be Mudiay at all, but just that this draft has a lot of options for the team to choose, which is probably why we are getting no real info on which direction they might go in other than speculation.

The consensus pick at #3 has been the right pick about 60% of the time since 2003. Good not great.

Knicks need to look at every option, however unpopular that might be.

Haven't really looked, but how many of those 3rd picks might have the 2nd pick if the team before didn't reach?
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#367 » by Tron Carter » Mon May 27, 2019 7:43 pm

Capn'O wrote:Irregardless of who we draft or acquire as a big fish, this team will need more shooting.


which is why we don’t need to waste our mle on guys like deandre jordan
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#368 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon May 27, 2019 7:58 pm

moocow007 wrote:So here are possible "shooters" that the Knicks may want to look at.

Vince Carter
DeMarre Carroll
Nik Stauskas
Wesley Matthews
Patrick Beverley
Darren Collison
Jaymychal Green
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Channing Frye
JJ Reddick
Marco Bellinelli

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Those old men are chasing rings so they're not signing with 17-win teams.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#369 » by Thugger HBC » Mon May 27, 2019 8:00 pm

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moocow007 wrote:So here are possible "shooters" that the Knicks may want to look at.

Vince Carter
DeMarre Carroll
Nik Stauskas
Wesley Matthews
Patrick Beverley
Darren Collison
Jaymychal Green
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Channing Frye
JJ Reddick
Marco Bellinelli

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Those old men are chasing rings so they're not signing with 17-win teams.

ironically, the very first one did just that, but we know the premise of signing any of these guys would be if we got our bigger targets on board.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#370 » by Marty McFly » Mon May 27, 2019 8:05 pm

i would **** love pat bev in a knick uni.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#371 » by NoLayupRule » Mon May 27, 2019 8:37 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:A lot of this discourse reminds me of the year of the KP draft and how so many was just so sold on Mudiay as being the "pick".

Of course I'm not claiming RJ to be Mudiay at all, but just that this draft has a lot of options for the team to choose, which is probably why we are getting no real info on which direction they might go in other than speculation.

The consensus pick at #3 has been the right pick about 60% of the time since 2003. Good not great.

Knicks need to look at every option, however unpopular that might be.

well sure

and they will

last year it seemed obvious that Bridges was our guy. It was a forgone conclusion in most circles. I dont think anyone was talking about Knox until he showed up in the rumors.

the knicks will do their diligence but at 3 its an easier choice. RJ and Ja are the two guys above the rest. unless Culver or someone shocks people and there isnt an option to move down in the draft for them then we will see Rj suiting up for the knicks

and a lot of people, including myself, think he's about as good a prospect as the knicks have drafted in a long time
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#372 » by NoLayupRule » Mon May 27, 2019 8:39 pm

Marty McFly wrote:i would **** love pat bev in a knick uni.

chances are good he's gonna get let go from Clippers
if we strike out or if we pass on Kyrie I think he's a great option, as is Rubio
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#373 » by NoLayupRule » Mon May 27, 2019 8:40 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
moocow007 wrote:So here are possible "shooters" that the Knicks may want to look at.

Vince Carter
DeMarre Carroll
Nik Stauskas
Wesley Matthews
Patrick Beverley
Darren Collison
Jaymychal Green
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Channing Frye
JJ Reddick
Marco Bellinelli

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Those old men are chasing rings so they're not signing with 17-win teams.

thats a solid list of guys who might take minimum or near minimum contracts if we did get the studs were going for

Bellinelli especially seems to defy age
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#374 » by Tron Carter » Mon May 27, 2019 8:42 pm

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#375 » by moocow007 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:45 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
moocow007 wrote:So here are possible "shooters" that the Knicks may want to look at.

Vince Carter
DeMarre Carroll
Nik Stauskas
Wesley Matthews
Patrick Beverley
Darren Collison
Jaymychal Green
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Channing Frye
JJ Reddick
Marco Bellinelli

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Those old men are chasing rings so they're not signing with 17-win teams.
The Knicks sign KD and Kyrie and it's hardly a 17 win team is it? Especially if they figure out a way to also add AD.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#376 » by moocow007 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:47 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
moocow007 wrote:So here are possible "shooters" that the Knicks may want to look at.

Vince Carter
DeMarre Carroll
Nik Stauskas
Wesley Matthews
Patrick Beverley
Darren Collison
Jaymychal Green
Kentavious Caldwell Pope
Channing Frye
JJ Reddick
Marco Bellinelli

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Those old men are chasing rings so they're not signing with 17-win teams.

thats a solid list of guys who might take minimum or near minimum contracts if we did get the studs were going for

Bellinelli especially seems to defy age
Yep. Obviously everything hinges on KD and whether he really does sign with the Knicks. If he does then the rest of the dominoes will start falling.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#377 » by moocow007 » Mon May 27, 2019 8:48 pm

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Jeannie Buss and the Lakers GM Queen James just got female woodies cause that would increase their chances at getting AD in a trade by a whole lot.

Laker fans have been desperately trying to convince themselves that Perry, Mills and the Knicks would be dopey enough to pass on Barrett so the Lakers can snap him up at 4 and finally complete the package for NO to land AD in LA. Pelicans reportedly very interested in reuniting Barrett with Zion.

Hopefully Perry and Mills aren't that dopey. If they seriously believe that Culver (and his weak ball control ability) is the answer for an NBA tean at 3, at least freaking make a trade with the Lakers and get something for handing AD...i mean Barrett...to Lebron and the Lakers.


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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#378 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon May 27, 2019 8:53 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:A lot of this discourse reminds me of the year of the KP draft and how so many was just so sold on Mudiay as being the "pick".

Of course I'm not claiming RJ to be Mudiay at all, but just that this draft has a lot of options for the team to choose, which is probably why we are getting no real info on which direction they might go in other than speculation.

The consensus pick at #3 has been the right pick about 60% of the time since 2003. Good not great.

Knicks need to look at every option, however unpopular that might be.

Haven't really looked, but how many of those 3rd picks might have the 2nd pick if the team before didn't reach?

Like Wee-Bay you asking too much :D

I just meant the #3 pick has roughly a 60% chance of panning out.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#379 » by N Y K » Mon May 27, 2019 9:08 pm

Tron Carter wrote:
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don’t get too attached

thanks for sharing.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#380 » by Buttah304 » Mon May 27, 2019 9:09 pm

If Culver had a quicker 1st step and a more fluid release on his jump shot I could see him giving RJ a run for his money at #3. Having said that I just don’t believe he has that high of a ceiling. He’s simply not a Top 3 pick.

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