2019 NBA draft part deux

[SmokeyPaw]

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

Sure he is, but his wingspan is also 3 inches longer than Herro's. You think that makes a difference?

Not bashing Herro but I wouldnt trade down with him as a target. Would take NAW over him if we're talking guards. And I'd take one of the pfs (PJ, Clarke, Williams, Rui) over him.

[Killboard]

I was a pretty big fan of Herro until I saw his wingspan. I’m really worried about him being able to physically hold up in the NBA.

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

Sure he is, but his wingspan is also 3 inches longer than Herro's. You think that makes a difference?

Murray didnt get official measurements I think.
Draftexpress says Murray had a 6'6 wingpsan at the Kentucky Combine, with a 8'1 Standing Reach.
Herro measured 6'3 wingspan with a 8' 4.5'' standing reach. Something doesnt hold up.

[Killboard]

You know how long Jamal Murray is? Is he holding up?

Sure he is, but his wingspan is also 3 inches longer than Herro's. You think that makes a difference?

Not bashing Herro but I wouldnt trade down with him as a target. Would take NAW over him if we're talking guards. And I'd take one of the pfs (PJ, Clarke, Williams, Rui) over him.

I also would prefer NAW. But I still thinking Herro deserves consideration and will be flying under the radar. Forget about what the consesus says. There is no consensus in the teens this draft.

Regarding trading down, the NBA is really hard to get away with it. The team who is calling is always getting short end of the stick. You cant both be asking to trade and get more value than the other team.

[Norseman79]

We just need to make sure we broadcast that we are going to be buyers! So when teams like Boston start wanting to unload 1rst rounders, we can gobble them up. Honestly, if we come out of this draft with two point guards and a stretch 4/5 who can defend, we did very well. I am not 100% sold on KBD as a 4.

PG - Teague, ????, ?????
SG - Wiggins, Okoge
SF - Roco, Reynolds, KBD
PF - Saric, ????
C - Kat, Dieng

How nice would NAW, Clarke/Washington, and Lecque/Hands/Edwards look?

[Killboard]

We just need to make sure we broadcast that we are going to be buyers! So when teams like Boston start wanting to unload 1rst rounders, we can gobble them up. Honestly, if we come out of this draft with two point guards and a stretch 4/5 who can defend, we did very well. I am not 100% sold on KBD as a 4.

PG - Teague, ????, ?????
SG - Wiggins, Okoge
SF - Roco, Reynolds, KBD
PF - Saric, ????
C - Kat, Dieng

How nice would NAW, Clarke/Washington, and Lecque/Hands/Edwards look?

Boston could send those picks for a star and you think they are going to lose them to move up some spots? Not buying.

[KGdaBom]

We just need to make sure we broadcast that we are going to be buyers! So when teams like Boston start wanting to unload 1rst rounders, we can gobble them up. Honestly, if we come out of this draft with two point guards and a stretch 4/5 who can defend, we did very well. I am not 100% sold on KBD as a 4.

PG - Teague, ????, ?????
SG - Wiggins, Okoge
SF - Roco, Reynolds, KBD
PF - Saric, ????
C - Kat, Dieng

How nice would NAW, Clarke/Washington, and Lecque/Hands/Edwards look?

We come out of this with NAW, Clarke and Edwards I will be very happy.

[KGdaBom]

We just need to make sure we broadcast that we are going to be buyers! So when teams like Boston start wanting to unload 1rst rounders, we can gobble them up. Honestly, if we come out of this draft with two point guards and a stretch 4/5 who can defend, we did very well. I am not 100% sold on KBD as a 4.

PG - Teague, ????, ?????
SG - Wiggins, Okoge
SF - Roco, Reynolds, KBD
PF - Saric, ????
C - Kat, Dieng

How nice would NAW, Clarke/Washington, and Lecque/Hands/Edwards look?

Boston could send those picks for a star and you think they are going to lose them to move up some spots? Not buying.

Boston could not get a star for picks 14 and 22.

[Killboard]

We just need to make sure we broadcast that we are going to be buyers! So when teams like Boston start wanting to unload 1rst rounders, we can gobble them up. Honestly, if we come out of this draft with two point guards and a stretch 4/5 who can defend, we did very well. I am not 100% sold on KBD as a 4.

PG - Teague, ????, ?????
SG - Wiggins, Okoge
SF - Roco, Reynolds, KBD
PF - Saric, ????
C - Kat, Dieng

How nice would NAW, Clarke/Washington, and Lecque/Hands/Edwards look?

Boston could send those picks for a star and you think they are going to lose them to move up some spots? Not buying.

Boston could not get a star for picks 14 and 22.

They likely have to add some players, but for sure they wont be losing value trading up. If they trade up, they are going to get more value.

[Norseman79]

in addition, teams looking to not take on salary either sell or trade late 1rst round picks pretty regularly.

[KGdaBom]

Boston could send those picks for a star and you think they are going to lose them to move up some spots? Not buying.

Boston could not get a star for picks 14 and 22.

They likely have to add some players, but for sure they wont be losing value trading up. If they trade up, they are going to get more value.

Boston is pretty deep last time I checked. They might want to consolidate two lesser picks into one better. 14-22 for 11 might be overpaying so maybe we have to throw in our second round pick and then buy it back.

[Killboard]

Boston could not get a star for picks 14 and 22.

They likely have to add some players, but for sure they wont be losing value trading up. If they trade up, they are going to get more value.

Boston is pretty deep last time I checked. They might want to consolidate two lesser picks into one better. 14-22 for 11 might be overpaying so maybe we have to throw in our second round pick and then buy it back.

Bigger surprises have happened, just that IMO isn't likely. Boston had a down year and I think they will try to go all in and consolidate his assets in the best player they can get.

The wolves should remain open, and do their due diligence in all the prospects to be prepared. I dont think is their call tough.

[UnFadeable21]

“After meeting the media and interviewing with select teams, White left the combine with widespread speculation that he, too, has received a draft promise. Two league executives who spoke with the Tribune believe White’s promise is from a team that picks before the Bulls. A top 6 promise”

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[KGdaBom]

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These promises are so stupid. What benefit are they to anybody?

[Norseman79]

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These promises are so stupid. What benefit are they to anybody?

My guess is, on one hand, it eliminates unnecessary injuries. On the other, it stops people from creating a chance for other teams to trade up to land them.

[Mattya]

Most likely teams trying to give the Bulls or teams that want those guards to trade up.

[Neeva]

Most likely teams trying to give the Bulls or teams that want those guards to trade up.

I wonder if the wolves are doing that with Hachimura? Brooklyn wants asian fans?

[SmokeyPaw]

Most likely teams trying to give the Bulls or teams that want those guards to trade up.

I wonder if the wolves are doing that with Hachimura? Brooklyn wants asian fans?

Hachimura has a pro day lined up so not sure he has a promise. Skipping the combine may be his agents way of controlling the workout environment. Reportedly has the same agent as Sabonis who also skipped the combine.

[shangrila]

They likely have to add some players, but for sure they wont be losing value trading up. If they trade up, they are going to get more value.

Boston is pretty deep last time I checked. They might want to consolidate two lesser picks into one better. 14-22 for 11 might be overpaying so maybe we have to throw in our second round pick and then buy it back.

Bigger surprises have happened, just that IMO isn't likely. Boston had a down year and I think they will try to go all in and consolidate his assets in the best player they can get.

The wolves should remain open, and do their due diligence in all the prospects to be prepared. I dont think is their call tough.

That doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in moving up. Consolidating some of their picks into a higher one would be a better trade chip.

[minimus]

Some thoughts about our draft. At press conference Rosas has mentioned that we need to find better players and Ryan mentioned that we need to stop overhelping when defending PnR, more switching should be executed, and no more wide open corner 3s.

I doubt we find FA who can impact our game enough, given our salary cap limitation. We also have minutes/money commited to KAT/Dieng/Saric/RoCo/Wiggins/Okogie/KBD group. Probably Tyus will be added too.

The problem is that I dont see us be above average defensive team with KAT/Dieng/Saric as bigmen. KAT should definitely improve, but there is not much potential in Dieng and Saric. While I'm good with RoCo/Wiggins/Okogie/KBD group to defend perimeter. I can see why MIN has been mentioned as interested to improve PF/C position by adding more size, athleticism. IMO RoCo should not be mentioned as stretch 4, because his body type is not the same as Tucker or Dray Green.

Scenario #1: Rui because he is physical enough to play against bigs, and mobile enough to defend perimeter. Rui could give us such type of switchable defender. Draft Lecque at 43.

KAT/Dieng
Saric/Hachimura/KBD
RoCo/KBD/Reynolds
Wiggins/Okogie/
Teague/Tyus/Lecque

Scenario #2: Projecting Sekou as long term project He was 6'9" with a 6'11" wingspan and listed at 230 pounds at age 17. I wonder if he continue to grow. Develop him as stretch 4, but mostly as quick comboforward who can defend all positions, except C, run and score in transition. Draft Lecque at 43

KAT/Dieng
Saric/KBD/Sekou
RoCo/Sekou/Reynolds
Wiggins/Okogie/
Teague/Tyus/Lecque

Scenario #3. I am perfectly fine if we trade down and acquire another late FRP/early SRP and get separately a true defensive minded bigman and PG. Daniel Gafford, Bassey, Fernando, maybe Bitadze.

This type of deal is perfect to me:

MIN: #17, #27, and #31
OUT: #11 and #43

Draft NAW (offers some defensive upgrade over Teague/Tyus), Bassey(mobile long bigman), Thybulle (elite perimeter defender).

KAT/Bassey/Dieng
Saric/KBD/???
RoCo/Reynolds/Thybulle
Wiggins/Okogie/NAW
Teague/Tyus/NAW

P.S. I also wonder how we can benefit from having a big PG simply if he is able to slow down a rolling bigman after defensive switch. Teague and Tyus give us no resistance in such situations.