Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer?

[bwgood77]

I think if Jones/Williams deem that Tyler can be the starting PG - is why Seth Curry is intriguing. Not because the Suns get the "other brother" again - but because his shooting. 45% for his career, 43.9% this last season from three point line. With CJ and Dame - he didn't handle the ball so his assists were under 1.0 per game But the shooting. And if he plays defense againsgt everybody like he did his brother in the playoffs - would be a solid player.

Sure he'd probably be an ok rotation guy. I don't think he's a great option to start at PG or anything. He's been on 6 teams already. Finally got some minutes the last couple years and wasn't bad, but doesn't seem like teams are making it a high priority to keep him around long term so I doubt he will turn into much. But if we could add him at the minimum for an extra bench shooter, sure.

[Wilber85]

I think if Jones/Williams deem that Tyler can be the starting PG - is why Seth Curry is intriguing. Not because the Suns get the "other brother" again - but because his shooting. 45% for his career, 43.9% this last season from three point line. With CJ and Dame - he didn't handle the ball so his assists were under 1.0 per game But the shooting. And if he plays defense againsgt everybody like he did his brother in the playoffs - would be a solid player.

Sure he'd probably be an ok rotation guy. I don't think he's a great option to start at PG or anything. He's been on 6 teams already. Finally got some minutes the last couple years and wasn't bad, but doesn't seem like teams are making it a high priority to keep him around long term so I doubt he will turn into much. But if we could add him at the minimum for an extra bench shooter, sure.

Suns fan logic "Lets get every trash bench player in the league!"

That isn't how you build a team. You go all in with Free Agency and get stars or you develop your team, good coaching, and depth!

Seth Curry is trash

[lilfishi22]

I think if Jones/Williams deem that Tyler can be the starting PG - is why Seth Curry is intriguing. Not because the Suns get the "other brother" again - but because his shooting. 45% for his career, 43.9% this last season from three point line. With CJ and Dame - he didn't handle the ball so his assists were under 1.0 per game But the shooting. And if he plays defense againsgt everybody like he did his brother in the playoffs - would be a solid player.

Sure he'd probably be an ok rotation guy. I don't think he's a great option to start at PG or anything. He's been on 6 teams already. Finally got some minutes the last couple years and wasn't bad, but doesn't seem like teams are making it a high priority to keep him around long term so I doubt he will turn into much. But if we could add him at the minimum for an extra bench shooter, sure.

Suns fan logic "Lets get every trash bench player in the league!"

That isn't how you build a team. You go all in with Free Agency and get stars or you develop your team, good coaching, and depth!

Seth Curry is trash

Name a star you have in mind and I'll trash that idea

[Qwigglez]

I’ve brought up Seth Curry before, and I like the idea since I feel he’s been steadily improving every year. He isn’t gonna be a star anytime soon but he provides depth at the guard position. If we draft Clarke and miss out on top PG free agents then getting Curry won’t hurt. We could then hope someone will become available at the trade deadline and package Tyler Johnson huge expiring along with the Bucks pick and our own if needed.

[lilfishi22]

I’ve brought up Seth Curry before, and I like the idea since I feel he’s been steadily improving every year. He isn’t gonna be a star anytime soon but he provides depth at the guard position. If we draft Clarke and miss out on top PG free agents then getting Curry won’t hurt. We could then hope someone will become available at the trade deadline and package Tyler Johnson huge expiring along with the Bucks pick and our own if needed.

And according to Wilber, if they aren't a potential superstar then they are a waste of time and won't move the needle

On the real though, Seth would be a great addition to this team. He can handle the ball a bit but he's an amazing off-ball mover and catch and shoot player.

[BobbieL]

I’ve brought up Seth Curry before, and I like the idea since I feel he’s been steadily improving every year. He isn’t gonna be a star anytime soon but he provides depth at the guard position. If we draft Clarke and miss out on top PG free agents then getting Curry won’t hurt. We could then hope someone will become available at the trade deadline and package Tyler Johnson huge expiring along with the Bucks pick and our own if needed.

And according to Wilber, if they aren't a potential superstar then they are a waste of time and won't move the needle

On the real though, Seth would be a great addition to this team. He can handle the ball a bit but he's an amazing off-ball mover and catch and shoot player.

Maybe Wilber knows which player in the K Klub will even talk to the Suns. My guess Kyrie would but do not want him. Too much drama. Durant our of respect but who wants that. Don’t need him to use the Suns

I would love to aim higher than Curry Collison Aminu Thad Young Beverley but just not sure anybody is realistic. Guys like Brogdon and Kleber are RFA.

I would love to aim higher but this year - it’s about improving the team and say Collison and Aminu would.

[Wilber85]

I’ve brought up Seth Curry before, and I like the idea since I feel he’s been steadily improving every year. He isn’t gonna be a star anytime soon but he provides depth at the guard position. If we draft Clarke and miss out on top PG free agents then getting Curry won’t hurt. We could then hope someone will become available at the trade deadline and package Tyler Johnson huge expiring along with the Bucks pick and our own if needed.

And according to Wilber, if they aren't a potential superstar then they are a waste of time and won't move the needle

On the real though, Seth would be a great addition to this team. He can handle the ball a bit but he's an amazing off-ball mover and catch and shoot player.

Every player you have mentioned doesn't move the line. Seth Curry, Clarke, lol those guys probably wouldn't even crack our starting line up. They would be bench players.

I would rather have TJ than Seth Curry. I would rather keep Warren or Josh Jackson over trying to develop Clarke.

Suns need to go all in and Trade #6, and assets.

To be honest. I would take a sign Rubio and Trade #6 Warren, and future pick for Kevin Love or Blake Griffin.

Rubio
Booker
Oubre
Love or Griffin
Ayton

Helps us win more than any of these rookies.

[AtheJ415]

What PF would you target? Someone on my list, or one of the SF-turned-PFs like Thad Young, JaMychal Green or (barf) Aminu? Can't go after Mirotic, Randle or Millsap unless you stretch Tyler.

I'm an Aminu fan

I actually think after his disasterous post season mirotic might be closer to this range than you might think, he got straight DNP-CD last game.

It's kind of a hard question because I do think they make a trade that either clears some more cap space or brings back a vet PF.

On that note I'd say if JJ likes what Kevin love brings off the court it wouldn't completely shock me if the suns traded for him. He's not my favorite target by any means and their D would probably suck but he would address both rebounding and 3pt shooting two major problem areas. With his contract I doubt the package would be too steep probably something like Johnson, Warren, and a minor piece like okobo or 32.

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Love's contract is poison. I wouldn't try Tyler and TJ for him, no way.

... I didn't realize Aminu was only 28. I guess I'd consider it, but I'm not certainly not enthralled at the idea.

His contract actually isn't that bad for his production. Also, his skillset will probably age well. I don't think he's a good fit here given his defensive issues, but I've seen many on this board want to pay big money to much worse players. For instance, some have suggested damn near $20 mil for Oubre. Love is way better.

[AtheJ415]

I would do this, but you have to give Milwaukee more incentive. They value Brogdon highly, the only reason they might let him go is because of the salary they have to pay to other players. We would have to take back bad salary, or give them picks or something instead of Warren.

Bucks don't have bad salary (aside from Bled).

Is no one but Kerrsed interested in moneyballing this thing? Y'all just want whatever's shiniest out there? Think all our players suck because our team sucked?

This is why I can't hang around here too long these days.... I get grouchy.

Brogdon is the guy I'd be fine moving Warren and/or the 6th for.
Kemba too.

Beyond that, we'll have to accept this will be a slow burn back towards contention

We aren't contending with Brogdon. I'm floored so many want to spend huge money on him. He's a role player. An elite role player, but a role player, and one with 2 serious knee issues at that. I'd love him at a certain price, but not at what I've seen here, particularly with the knee issues.

If we have Kemba AND our youth takes a big step next year, we MIGHT contend for that 8 spot, but the West is filled with super talented veteran team with experienced coaches who have guys that have been in systems for years. The idea that we are 1 player away from the playoffs is a misnomer, particularly just 1 PG. We are an MVP candidate away from the playoffs. We would need a couple stars to get there (like Kemba + some star PF, though I'm not sure who would be realistic with our cap situation at that point).

[lilfishi22]

I’ve brought up Seth Curry before, and I like the idea since I feel he’s been steadily improving every year. He isn’t gonna be a star anytime soon but he provides depth at the guard position. If we draft Clarke and miss out on top PG free agents then getting Curry won’t hurt. We could then hope someone will become available at the trade deadline and package Tyler Johnson huge expiring along with the Bucks pick and our own if needed.

And according to Wilber, if they aren't a potential superstar then they are a waste of time and won't move the needle

On the real though, Seth would be a great addition to this team. He can handle the ball a bit but he's an amazing off-ball mover and catch and shoot player.

Every player you have mentioned doesn't move the line. Seth Curry, Clarke, lol those guys probably wouldn't even crack our starting line up. They would be bench players.

I would rather have TJ than Seth Curry. I would rather keep Warren or Josh Jackson over trying to develop Clarke.

Suns need to go all in and Trade #6, and assets.

To be honest. I would take a sign Rubio and Trade #6 Warren, and future pick for Kevin Love or Blake Griffin.

Rubio
Booker
Oubre
Love or Griffin
Ayton

Helps us win more than any of these rookies.

Yeah let's go "all in" and trade all of our best assets for a player that hasn't played more than 60 games since the Cavs won the title or try and peddle those middling assets we have for a 3rd team All NBA player this season.

How many games is Rubio winning for us?

[lilfishi22]

I’ve brought up Seth Curry before, and I like the idea since I feel he’s been steadily improving every year. He isn’t gonna be a star anytime soon but he provides depth at the guard position. If we draft Clarke and miss out on top PG free agents then getting Curry won’t hurt. We could then hope someone will become available at the trade deadline and package Tyler Johnson huge expiring along with the Bucks pick and our own if needed.

And according to Wilber, if they aren't a potential superstar then they are a waste of time and won't move the needle

On the real though, Seth would be a great addition to this team. He can handle the ball a bit but he's an amazing off-ball mover and catch and shoot player.

Maybe Wilber knows which player in the K Klub will even talk to the Suns. My guess Kyrie would but do not want him. Too much drama. Durant our of respect but who wants that. Don’t need him to use the Suns

I would love to aim higher than Curry Collison Aminu Thad Young Beverley but just not sure anybody is realistic. Guys like Brogdon and Kleber are RFA.

I would love to aim higher but this year - it’s about improving the team and say Collison and Aminu would.

Wilber's problem is he thinks he's some sort of sage that is in possession of secret knowledge that Curry, Collison, Amunis, Young and Beverely aren't star players but Blake Griffin actually is. Newsflash we know Curry, Collison, Aminu, Young and Bevereley aren't stars! We're not idiots that think we should go after Thad Young over Blake because Young is better. We're going after these caliber o players because we have a limited amount of cap space, a limited amount of truly valuable assets and you need to get another team's GM to agree to give you a star level player. Oh an you brought up Kleber? He's another guy that Wilber probably thinks is a scrub and will probably lead us to a 20 win season.

He really thinks that we're fools for not going after Kawhi, KD, Klay etc and he's the only one that thinks these players would make us better. Yeah no **** Sherlock, how you gonna get them?

[Wilber85]

And according to Wilber, if they aren't a potential superstar then they are a waste of time and won't move the needle

On the real though, Seth would be a great addition to this team. He can handle the ball a bit but he's an amazing off-ball mover and catch and shoot player.

Maybe Wilber knows which player in the K Klub will even talk to the Suns. My guess Kyrie would but do not want him. Too much drama. Durant our of respect but who wants that. Don’t need him to use the Suns

I would love to aim higher than Curry Collison Aminu Thad Young Beverley but just not sure anybody is realistic. Guys like Brogdon and Kleber are RFA.

I would love to aim higher but this year - it’s about improving the team and say Collison and Aminu would.

Wilber's problem is he thinks he's some sort of sage that is in possession of secret knowledge that Curry, Collison, Amunis, Young and Beverely aren't star players but Blake Griffin actually is. Newsflash we know Curry, Collison, Aminu, Young and Bevereley aren't stars! We're not idiots that think we should go after Thad Young over Blake because Young is better. We're going after these caliber o players because we have a limited amount of cap space, a limited amount of truly valuable assets and you need to get another team's GM to agree to give you a star level player. Oh an you brought up Kleber? He's another guy that Wilber probably thinks is a scrub and will probably lead us to a 20 win season.

He really thinks that we're fools for not going after Kawhi, KD, Klay etc and he's the only one that thinks these players would make us better. Yeah no **** Sherlock, how you gonna get them?

It’s funny that you are upset over nba players who don’t even know who you are

... yes by getting scrub role players on contracts and taking up cap space , we waste space on actual stars .

I think you should apply for GM! You seem to have all the knowledge on how to win!

Sign the scrub PGs who will never crack a roster

Also with Rubio as our PG last year I would say we win 25-30 games ! We had zero PG

[Crives]

Anyone else get an odd feeling that we have heard no news regarding Tyler picking up his option?

[Crives]

Wilber,
Book and Ayton are our star core. They just might be the best 1-2 punch in the league in a few years. We just need to add solid players around them and give them time to grow. We are not getting a superstar free agent with the culture the past few years.. but that doesn’t mean we can’t let our young stars develop, fix the culture and add a veteran star in a couple years.

We are going to be entering our peak right as all the current stars start dropping off. There is a serious gap in young talent, most of the stars in this league will be 30+ In a few years.

[lilfishi22]

Maybe Wilber knows which player in the K Klub will even talk to the Suns. My guess Kyrie would but do not want him. Too much drama. Durant our of respect but who wants that. Don’t need him to use the Suns

I would love to aim higher than Curry Collison Aminu Thad Young Beverley but just not sure anybody is realistic. Guys like Brogdon and Kleber are RFA.

I would love to aim higher but this year - it’s about improving the team and say Collison and Aminu would.

Wilber's problem is he thinks he's some sort of sage that is in possession of secret knowledge that Curry, Collison, Amunis, Young and Beverely aren't star players but Blake Griffin actually is. Newsflash we know Curry, Collison, Aminu, Young and Bevereley aren't stars! We're not idiots that think we should go after Thad Young over Blake because Young is better. We're going after these caliber o players because we have a limited amount of cap space, a limited amount of truly valuable assets and you need to get another team's GM to agree to give you a star level player. Oh an you brought up Kleber? He's another guy that Wilber probably thinks is a scrub and will probably lead us to a 20 win season.

He really thinks that we're fools for not going after Kawhi, KD, Klay etc and he's the only one that thinks these players would make us better. Yeah no **** Sherlock, how you gonna get them?

It’s funny that you are upset over nba players who don’t even know who you are

... yes by getting scrub role players on contracts and taking up cap space , we waste space on actual stars .

I think you should apply for GM! You seem to have all the knowledge on how to win!

Sign the scrub PGs who will never crack a roster

Also with Rubio as our PG last year I would say we win 25-30 games ! We had zero PG

I'm not upset over NBA players. I'm just amazed at how little you contribute when you trash other poster's well-thought out and well-written ideas with your flaming cheetos takes.

Sign a scrub PG who will never crack a roster? Collison's been in the game for a hot minute (only 9 NBA seasons) and has been a starter for the 48-win Pacers for two straight years. OK friend

[timetoshinebaby]

Anyone else get an odd feeling that we have heard no news regarding Tyler picking up his option?

I still believe there is a reasonable chance he doesn't. He is owed $12m cash not the $19m that is counting against the cap.

I would consider it if I were him. Would you take say 4 years/$24m to go to where you want or stay at the Suns for 1 year/$12m and potentially tank any value you have?

It would make the offseason very interesting especially if the renounce Bender and trade Warren/Jackson.

[Wilber85]

Wilber's problem is he thinks he's some sort of sage that is in possession of secret knowledge that Curry, Collison, Amunis, Young and Beverely aren't star players but Blake Griffin actually is. Newsflash we know Curry, Collison, Aminu, Young and Bevereley aren't stars! We're not idiots that think we should go after Thad Young over Blake because Young is better. We're going after these caliber o players because we have a limited amount of cap space, a limited amount of truly valuable assets and you need to get another team's GM to agree to give you a star level player. Oh an you brought up Kleber? He's another guy that Wilber probably thinks is a scrub and will probably lead us to a 20 win season.

He really thinks that we're fools for not going after Kawhi, KD, Klay etc and he's the only one that thinks these players would make us better. Yeah no **** Sherlock, how you gonna get them?

It’s funny that you are upset over nba players who don’t even know who you are

... yes by getting scrub role players on contracts and taking up cap space , we waste space on actual stars .

I think you should apply for GM! You seem to have all the knowledge on how to win!

Sign the scrub PGs who will never crack a roster

Also with Rubio as our PG last year I would say we win 25-30 games ! We had zero PG

I'm not upset over NBA players. I'm just amazed at how little you contribute when you trash other poster's well-thought out and well-written ideas with your flaming cheetos takes.

Sign a scrub PG who will never crack a roster? Collison's been in the game for a hot minute (only 9 NBA seasons) and has been a starter for the 48-win Pacers for two straight years. OK friend

Good comparison when we are talking about Seth Curry

[lilfishi22]

It’s funny that you are upset over nba players who don’t even know who you are

... yes by getting scrub role players on contracts and taking up cap space , we waste space on actual stars .

I think you should apply for GM! You seem to have all the knowledge on how to win!

Sign the scrub PGs who will never crack a roster

Also with Rubio as our PG last year I would say we win 25-30 games ! We had zero PG

I'm not upset over NBA players. I'm just amazed at how little you contribute when you trash other poster's well-thought out and well-written ideas with your flaming cheetos takes.

Sign a scrub PG who will never crack a roster? Collison's been in the game for a hot minute (only 9 NBA seasons) and has been a starter for the 48-win Pacers for two straight years. OK friend

Good comparison when we are talking about Seth Curry

The guy that played 20mpg (and shot .400 from the 3) for a team that got to the Western Conference Finals? Oh yeah, would NEVER crack a roster

[lilfishi22]

Anyone else get an odd feeling that we have heard no news regarding Tyler picking up his option?

I still believe there is a reasonable chance he doesn't. He is owed $12m cash not the $19m that is counting against the cap.

I would consider it if I were him. Would you take say 4 years/$24m to go to where you want or stay at the Suns for 1 year/$12m and potentially tank any value you have?

It would make the offseason very interesting especially if the renounce Bender and trade Warren/Jackson.

Has that been confirmed?

[nevetsov]

Anyone else get an odd feeling that we have heard no news regarding Tyler picking up his option?

I still believe there is a reasonable chance he doesn't. He is owed $12m cash not the $19m that is counting against the cap.

I would consider it if I were him. Would you take say 4 years/$24m to go to where you want or stay at the Suns for 1 year/$12m and potentially tank any value you have?

It would make the offseason very interesting especially if the renounce Bender and trade Warren/Jackson.

Has that been confirmed?

If that were the case, what would stop him from opting out, and then have us re-sign him on a one year, $13m deal?

He'd end up with more money, and we'd end up with $6m more cap space.