Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

[F N 11]

We're getting Anthony Davis. For the Pelicans the concept of teaming up Zion with RJ is just too good to pass up. They'll both be money makers for them.

For the knicks..when AD is healthy and when KD comes you'll arguably have 2 of the top 5 players in the league on your team. If I'm the knicks...I go hard after K.Leonard. and then you'll have 3 of the top 10 players in the league on your team.

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

There would be a third MAX

And if there isn't a third MAX, then we would have money available to sign better players than Anthony Carter.

True but how good is a player for example @ 10 mil these days if it’s just 2 max cats.Let’s say Ad, Kyrie and Kyrie on the team. Literally that’s all you got. No bench.

Rather hope #3 pick, Mitch, Knox, or one of these guys play more than their contract like Mitch.( Raptors formula). Gotta hope for luck too. Takes 1 max guy to get hurt then we look like the rockets. Ass’d our and capp’d out and can’t improve.

I like the ability to have flexibility I don’t want the fast route. 2 max guys and play with the young guys or move on.

Knicks were not rolling over at all this season. Adding 2 max guys we can be good. Learning curve but at least the 2 max guys would know they are the guys.

[King of Canada]

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

There would be a third MAX

And if there isn't a third MAX, then we would have money available to sign better players than Anthony Carter.

True but how good is a player for example @ 10 mil these days if it’s just 2 max cats.Let’s say Ad, Kyrie and Kyrie on the team. Literally that’s all you got. No bench.

Rather hope #3 pick, Mitch, Knox, or one of these guys play more than their contract like Mitch.( Raptors formula). Gotta hope for luck too. Takes 1 max guy to get hurt then we look like the rockets. Ass’d our and capp’d out and can’t improve.

I like the ability to have flexibility I don’t want the fast route. 2 max guys and play with the young guys or move on.

Knicks were not rolling over at all this season. Adding 2 max guys we can be good. Learning curve but at least the 2 max guys would know they are the guys.

If you make the trade for AD you then have to consider signing just one max and using the cap space to build your team

[GONYK]

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

There would be a third MAX

And if there isn't a third MAX, then we would have money available to sign better players than Anthony Carter.

True but how good is a player for example @ 10 mil these days if it’s just 2 max cats.Let’s say Ad, Kyrie and Kyrie on the team. Literally that’s all you got. No bench.

I don't know why you would choose the least likely pairing to illustrate your point. This all starts with signing KD. If we don't get him, I don't think any of this materializes.

KD and AD would attract a good number of ring chasers, as well as still leave us with a good chunk of cap to add a 6th man.

That's ignoring the most obvious scenario, which is adding Kyrie to the mix.

Rather hope #3 pick, Mitch, Knox, or one of these guys play more than their contract like Mitch.( Raptors formula). Gotta hope for luck too. Takes 1 max guy to get hurt then we look like the rockets. Ass’d our and capp’d out and can’t improve.

Hope isn't a strategy though. It's far less likely that all those guys develop than it is that KD and AD and possibly a third MAX makes us contenders.

There is no perfect way to avoid competing, but coming up short.

But AD, KD, and Kyrie are better investments than Chris Paul and Clint Capela.

I like the ability to have flexibility I don’t want the fast route. 2 max guys and play with the young guys or move on.

Knicks were not rolling over at all this season. Adding 2 max guys we can be good. Learning curve but at least the 2 max guys would know they are the guys.

I like flexibility too, but if KD wants to win now, there is no need to waste his prime waiting for Knox or whoever.

If you have two of the top 5 players in the game and possibly 3 of the top 15, you don't need a ton of depth. Teams really only go 7 deep in the playoffs.

I don't think the young guys will be kept if we get 2 MAX players but don't get AD anyway. You can't rely on them in the playoffs.

Mitch is probably the only one who would definitely be safe.

[robillionaire]

KD, AD, and a 3rd superstar like Kyrie or Kemba, barring injuries of course, wins you a championship in year 1 and probably year 2 3 and 4. Doesn’t matter who the supporting cast is. I’m that confident in how dominant they would be together

[sol537]

AD for RJ, Frank, DSJr, Knox + both Dallas picks. Massive offer and better than anyone else (or at least as good). And it leaves us with our own picks going forward, as well as money Mitch.

I'm sorry, if you have KD and Irving locked in and they want AD (why wouldn't they?), you pull that trigger and don't look back.

One title in my lifetime... that's all I ask.

[F N 11]

AD for RJ, Frank, DSJr, Knox + both Dallas picks. Massive offer and better than anyone else (or at least as good). And it leaves us with our own picks going forward, as well as money Mitch.

I'm sorry, if you have KD and Irving locked in and they want AD (why wouldn't they?), you pull that trigger and don't look back.

One title in my lifetime... that's all I ask.

Smoking crack if you think Mitch stays.

[moocow007]

Yeah. Quite a few scouts have said that Robinson is currently the Knicks best player so it will be hard to keep him back in a mega trade. More realistic is probably selling him so high that you may be able to keep one (some) of the lesser assets (one of the Dallas picks, keep Trier, or the like).

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[moocow007]

There would be a third MAX

And if there isn't a third MAX, then we would have money available to sign better players than Anthony Carter.

True but how good is a player for example @ 10 mil these days if it’s just 2 max cats.Let’s say Ad, Kyrie and Kyrie on the team. Literally that’s all you got. No bench.

I don't know why you would choose the least likely pairing to illustrate your point. This all starts with signing KD. If we don't get him, I don't think any of this materializes.

KD and AD would attract a good number of ring chasers, as well as still leave us with a good chunk of cap to add a 6th man.

That's ignoring the most obvious scenario, which is adding Kyrie to the mix.

Rather hope #3 pick, Mitch, Knox, or one of these guys play more than their contract like Mitch.( Raptors formula). Gotta hope for luck too. Takes 1 max guy to get hurt then we look like the rockets. Ass’d our and capp’d out and can’t improve.

Hope isn't a strategy though. It's far less likely that all those guys develop than it is that KD and AD and possibly a third MAX makes us contenders.

There is no perfect way to avoid competing, but coming up short.

But AD, KD, and Kyrie are better investments than Chris Paul and Clint Capela.

I like the ability to have flexibility I don’t want the fast route. 2 max guys and play with the young guys or move on.

Knicks were not rolling over at all this season. Adding 2 max guys we can be good. Learning curve but at least the 2 max guys would know they are the guys.

I like flexibility too, but if KD wants to win now, there is no need to waste his prime waiting for Knox or whoever.

If you have two of the top 5 players in the game and possibly 3 of the top 15, you don't need a ton of depth. Teams really only go 7 deep in the playoffs.

I don't think the young guys will be kept if we get 2 MAX players but don't get AD anyway. You can't rely on them in the playoffs.

Mitch is probably the only one who would definitely be safe.

Agreed

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[F N 11]

True but how good is a player for example @ 10 mil these days if it’s just 2 max cats.Let’s say Ad, Kyrie and Kyrie on the team. Literally that’s all you got. No bench.

I don't know why you would choose the least likely pairing to illustrate your point. This all starts with signing KD. If we don't get him, I don't think any of this materializes.

KD and AD would attract a good number of ring chasers, as well as still leave us with a good chunk of cap to add a 6th man.

That's ignoring the most obvious scenario, which is adding Kyrie to the mix.

Rather hope #3 pick, Mitch, Knox, or one of these guys play more than their contract like Mitch.( Raptors formula). Gotta hope for luck too. Takes 1 max guy to get hurt then we look like the rockets. Ass’d our and capp’d out and can’t improve.

Hope isn't a strategy though. It's far less likely that all those guys develop than it is that KD and AD and possibly a third MAX makes us contenders.

There is no perfect way to avoid competing, but coming up short.

But AD, KD, and Kyrie are better investments than Chris Paul and Clint Capela.

I like the ability to have flexibility I don’t want the fast route. 2 max guys and play with the young guys or move on.

Knicks were not rolling over at all this season. Adding 2 max guys we can be good. Learning curve but at least the 2 max guys would know they are the guys.

I like flexibility too, but if KD wants to win now, there is no need to waste his prime waiting for Knox or whoever.

If you have two of the top 5 players in the game and possibly 3 of the top 15, you don't need a ton of depth. Teams really only go 7 deep in the playoffs.

I don't think the young guys will be kept if we get 2 MAX players but don't get AD anyway. You can't rely on them in the playoffs.

Mitch is probably the only one who would definitely be safe.

Agreed

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I get it we just have different opinions. I think #3 pick, 2 legit max cats and the rest of the kids is good enough. Its basically do you want a variety of young role players or a max cat and kill your talented debt and options for other trades. See where im going with this? We wont be able to make any significant improvements via trade because we would only have ring chasers.

a 3rd max via trade would sacrifice all the talent for smaller trades if necessary and future picks. Thats a tough pill to swallow.

We like to say 3 max cats wins no matter what but nothing is set in stone. Then at the end of the window we will take years to start over again. Im not with that. I rest my case.

[SelbyCobra]

Yeah. Quite a few scouts have said that Robinson is currently the Knicks best player so it will be hard to keep him back in a mega trade. More realistic is probably selling him so high that you may be able to keep one (some) of the lesser assets (one of the Dallas picks, keep Trier, or the like).

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The one asset I really, really, really hope they hold is the DAL 2021 pick. I understand that, realistically, Mitch would have to go in any deal for AD, and the #3 has the most value of any asset out there. I'd hope that those two pieces would make up an acceptable majority of the deal and they could hold back that first, completely unprotected Mavs pick. Deal the second Mavs pick, a future Knicks pick, and/or any of the other youth to fill in on the back end of a Davis deal before moving that 2021 DAL pick - it provides so much flexibility and potential value.

[Meat]

We're getting Anthony Davis. For the Pelicans the concept of teaming up Zion with RJ is just too good to pass up. They'll both be money makers for them.

For the knicks..when AD is healthy and when KD comes you'll arguably have 2 of the top 5 players in the league on your team. If I'm the knicks...I go hard after K.Leonard. and then you'll have 3 of the top 10 players in the league on your team.

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

when have you seen it? when you have you seen a top 4 player get traded to a team with a top 2 player?

[Jeff Van Gully]

We're getting Anthony Davis. For the Pelicans the concept of teaming up Zion with RJ is just too good to pass up. They'll both be money makers for them.

For the knicks..when AD is healthy and when KD comes you'll arguably have 2 of the top 5 players in the league on your team. If I'm the knicks...I go hard after K.Leonard. and then you'll have 3 of the top 10 players in the league on your team.

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

when have you seen it? when you have you seen a top 4 player get traded to a team with a top 2 player?

EVERYONE can go if the end result is KD, kawhi, and AD. sheesh. lol. who messin with that? everyone else is a role player. all the smoke.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Yeah. Quite a few scouts have said that Robinson is currently the Knicks best player so it will be hard to keep him back in a mega trade. More realistic is probably selling him so high that you may be able to keep one (some) of the lesser assets (one of the Dallas picks, keep Trier, or the like).

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The one asset I really, really, really hope they hold is the DAL 2021 pick. I understand that, realistically, Mitch would have to go in any deal for AD, and the #3 has the most value of any asset out there. I'd hope that those two pieces would make up an acceptable majority of the deal and they could hold back that first, completely unprotected Mavs pick. Deal the second Mavs pick, a future Knicks pick, and/or any of the other youth to fill in on the back end of a Davis deal before moving that 2021 DAL pick - it provides so much flexibility and potential value.

take any pick you want if it means i can keep mitch.

[Meat]

Yeah. Quite a few scouts have said that Robinson is currently the Knicks best player so it will be hard to keep him back in a mega trade. More realistic is probably selling him so high that you may be able to keep one (some) of the lesser assets (one of the Dallas picks, keep Trier, or the like).

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The one asset I really, really, really hope they hold is the DAL 2021 pick. I understand that, realistically, Mitch would have to go in any deal for AD, and the #3 has the most value of any asset out there. I'd hope that those two pieces would make up an acceptable majority of the deal and they could hold back that first, completely unprotected Mavs pick. Deal the second Mavs pick, a future Knicks pick, and/or any of the other youth to fill in on the back end of a Davis deal before moving that 2021 DAL pick - it provides so much flexibility and potential value.

take any pick you want if it means i can keep mitch.

the 2021 is unprotected, and mitch is the hometown boy.. they're both gone

[spree8]

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

when have you seen it? when you have you seen a top 4 player get traded to a team with a top 2 player?

EVERYONE can go if the end result is KD, kawhi, and AD. sheesh. lol. who messin with that? everyone else is a role player. all the smoke.

Jesus, Kawhi instead of Kyrie? That’s not even fair... wouldn’t feel right lol.

[Jeff Van Gully]

when have you seen it? when you have you seen a top 4 player get traded to a team with a top 2 player?

EVERYONE can go if the end result is KD, kawhi, and AD. sheesh. lol. who messin with that? everyone else is a role player. all the smoke.

Jesus, Kawhi instead of Kyrie? That’s not even fair... wouldn’t feel right lol.

that's been my dream the whole time.

[KnixinSix]

[quote="GONYK"][quote="F N 11"][quote="GONYK"]

There would be a third MAX

And if there isn't a third MAX, then we would have money available to sign better players than Anthony Carter.[/quote]
True but how good is a player for example @ 10 mil these days if it’s just 2 max cats.Let’s say Ad, Kyrie and Kyrie on the team. Literally that’s all you got. No bench. [/quote]

I don't know why you would choose the least likely pairing to illustrate your point. This all starts with signing KD. If we don't get him, I don't think any of this materializes.

KD and AD would attract a good number of ring chasers, as well as still leave us with a good chunk of cap to add a 6th man.

That's ignoring the most obvious scenario, which is adding Kyrie to the mix.

[quote]Rather hope #3 pick, Mitch, Knox, or one of these guys play more than their contract like Mitch.( Raptors formula). Gotta hope for luck too. Takes 1 max guy to get hurt then we look like the rockets. Ass’d our and capp’d out and can’t improve. [/quote]

Hope isn't a strategy though. It's far less likely that all those guys develop than it is that KD and AD and possibly a third MAX makes us contenders.

There is no perfect way to avoid competing, but coming up short.

But AD, KD, and Kyrie are better investments than Chris Paul and Clint Capela.

[quote]I like the ability to have flexibility I don’t want the fast route. 2 max guys and play with the young guys or move on.

Knicks were not rolling over at all this season. Adding 2 max guys we can be good. Learning curve but at least the 2 max guys would know they are the guys.[/quote]

I like flexibility too, but if KD wants to win now, there is no need to waste his prime waiting for Knox or whoever.

If you have two of the top 5 players in the game and possibly 3 of the top 15, you don't need a ton of depth. Teams really only go 7 deep in the playoffs.

I don't think the young guys will be kept if we get 2 MAX players but don't get AD anyway. You can't rely on them in the playoffs.

Mitch is probably the only one who would definitely be safe.[/quote]

The bench of a win now team in the NBA looks drastically different than a rebuilding team. When a 30 yo KD signs we officially switch mindset to win now mode.

Sorry 'Home-groaners' , Youth will not be served. If you do keep youth it's only if you have to, or he is a special special NBA polished talent. The vets that you know exactly what you will get from them, have been battle tested , and wont make huge growing pain mistakes in the playoffs are the ones that fill out your bench. We may keep one two guys but whether you like it or not the majority will go.

[KnixinSix]

EVERYONE can go if the end result is KD, kawhi, and AD. sheesh. lol. who messin with that? everyone else is a role player. all the smoke.

Jesus, Kawhi instead of Kyrie? That’s not even fair... wouldn’t feel right lol.

that's been my dream the whole time.

Durant Kawhi and AD would arguably be better than In prime LeBron Wade and Bosh.

LeBron is the best of the 6 but a big edge for AD over Bosh and an edge for Kawhi over Wade.

[KnixinSix]

Not trading he farm for 1 player. I’ve seen how that ends up. Let’s say Kd do come. It’s KD, AD and a bunch of Anthony Carter’s

when have you seen it? when you have you seen a top 4 player get traded to a team with a top 2 player?

EVERYONE can go if the end result is KD, kawhi, and AD. sheesh. lol. who messin with that? everyone else is a role player. all the smoke.

Kawhi instead of Kyrie would be huge. But Kyrie is not garbage either. I don't think he even liked Boston's system he played in. I don't think there is any way he will stay there.

But I'd still take Kemba over Kyrie.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Jesus, Kawhi instead of Kyrie? That’s not even fair... wouldn’t feel right lol.

that's been my dream the whole time.

Durant Kawhi and AD would arguably be better than In prime LeBron Wade and Bosh.

LeBron is the best of the 6 but a big edge for AD over Bosh and an edge for Kawhi over Wade.

agreed. and i think prime KD and prime lebron aren't as far apart as one might think. they serve different functions. one is your primary facilitator with great athleticism. the other is the most skilled all-around player. KD has no holes in his game. AD and kahwi schidt on bebop and rocksteady.