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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#4001 » by King Ken » Fri May 31, 2019 12:07 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Well, this seals it for me.

It you can't be with the one you love...get a cheap knock off in a lesser draft:

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From a size, body and skill set stance but feel for the game and polish, WCJ by a mile. I actually think Kabengele is more athletic.
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Post#4002 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 12:15 pm

King Ken wrote:From a size, body and skill set stance but feel for the game and polish, WCJ by a mile. I actually think Kabengele is more athletic.



All of that is accurate.


In my dreams, we took WCJ, K Huerter and Jalen Brunson in the 2018 draft and followed it up by adding J Culver in 2019.

That would be the most granola, fundamentally sound, well-balanced breakfast we could ever ask for.

(That lineup along with J Collins wouldn't win a title, but that's a group of wholesome young men worth rooting for.)

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Post#4003 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 12:17 pm

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His body once he gets his adult weight will be insane. He is going to be a superstar. I wouldn't pass on him



I know I'm in the minority, but i still have RJ as the best long term prospect in this draft.
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Post#4004 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 12:45 pm

Gregory Doyel wrote:Romeo Langford sacrificed NBA draft stock for IU basketball

Now we know what Archie Miller and other IU coaches are telling NBA scouts who call about the IU freshman, the former New Albany legend, the 2018 IndyStar Mr. Basketball.

Tough

Unselfish


Now we know about the thumb.

Romeo played the final 26 games of the 2018-19 IU basketball season with a torn ligament in his right thumb. Romeo Langford played his only season at IU with a disaster for a right hand.

IU coaches and doctors were honest with Romeo in late November, when he suffered the injury the week of the Duke game. They told him he needed surgery. They told him the recovery would be about six or seven weeks. The thumb was in no additional jeopardy, but he would have to tolerate pain. He would have to tolerate diminished results.

we know the choice he made. The statistics Romeo accumulated in his lone season at IU, great stats for most freshmen — 16.5 points per game, 5.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists — but less than we expected of IU’s top recruit in years? Now we know what happened.

Before the injury, in his only two games against high-level competition — NCAA tournament No. 5 seed Marquette and NIT-bound Arkansas — Romeo averaged 22 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 3.5 apg, two steals and 1.5 blocks. A tiny sample size, yes. But a window into who he might have been.
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Post#4005 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 1:03 pm

2019 Draft Position Preview: Guards

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JARRETT CULVER – 6-6, 195 – College: Texas Tech – played both SF and SG at Texas Tech, but will likely be moved to backcourt at next level; excelled against top-flight competition in the Tourney; averaged 18.5 points, 6.4 boards and 3.7 assists as a sophomore; frequently ran Red Raiders offense; school’s first Big 12 Player of the Year; will need to improve outside shooting at NBA level; not an explosive athlete, won’t jump out of the gym; very good ball-handler for his size; maybe the most versatile player in the Lottery; can defend multiple positions at a high level; can be an outstanding 3-and-D guy as a pro; high basketball IQ, passionate player; including assists, accounted for nearly 35 percent of Tech’s offense last year; ideal build for an NBA wing; better than average footwork; shooting mechanics might need tweaked; long arms; outstanding motor; tough defender, moves well laterally, quick hands; very good rebounder for his size and loves to run the break off the glass; can be taken out of his game by a stronger defender; concerns about Culver are that he’s too versatile – a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none at at the next level; but teams are reportedly enamored with the sophomore swingman as June 20 approaches.



COBY WHITE – 6-5, 190 – College: North Carolina – shattered North Carolina high school scoring records before signing with Tarheels; finished second on UNC in scoring and total points; constantly attacking rim; one of the best catch-and-shoot players in the country; so lightning-quick, had to learn to change speeds at college level; welcomes contact at the rim; shot 35 percent from deep in single season at UNC, maybe the most polished pure shooter in the Draft; decision-making is suspect, tends to play out of control, turnover-prone; led Tarheels to Sweet 16; gives good effort, but not a very good defender at this stage; good late-game killer instinct; outstanding first step, can blow by defenders on perimeter; finishes well at the rim with either hand; good at finding teammates in transition; very good at creating space for his shot; strong facilitator – averaged 4.1 assist per game; excellent free throw shooter; very good lateral quickness; scored at least 33 points on three occasions this year with UNC; needs to add muscle to his frame; sometimes speed can be a curse, gets rushed; sometimes looks to score for himself too quickly; like the two previous players, some team will scoop up the high-octane point man quickly in today’s guard-driven league.



ROMEO LANGFORD – 6-6, 210 – College: Indiana – a decorated Indiana high school player, Langford led the Hoosiers with 16.1 ppg average while shooting 45 percent from the floor; loves to attack the rim and a strong finisher in traffic; lacks consistent outside shot – only shot 27 percent from long-range; aggressive rebounder – averaged 5.4 as a freshman, good on offensive glass as well; likes to get team in transition off the rebound; will need to improve his range at the next level; not a big athletic upside; gets to the stripe frequently but needs to improve his percentage; nice touch around the rim; shoots well off the dribble; can post up smaller guards; just a so-so defender but potential to improve at NBA level; good size to absorb contact in the paint; questionable shot selection at times; has the size to develop into a solid 3-and-D guy; tends to drift, not always locked in mentally; played some point guard in high school and still retains playmaking skills; reliant on his right hand, making him easier to guard on the next level; between turnovers and bad shot attempts, needs to improve his overall efficiency, Langford is one of the more intriguing guards near the top of the board.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#4006 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 2:02 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:From a size, body and skill set stance but feel for the game and polish, WCJ by a mile. I actually think Kabengele is more athletic.



All of that is accurate.


In my dreams, we took WCJ, K Huerter and Jalen Brunson in the 2018 draft and followed it up by adding J Culver in 2019.

That would be the most granola, fundamentally sound, well-balanced breakfast we could ever ask for.

(That lineup along with J Collins wouldn't win a title, but that's a group of wholesome young men worth rooting for.)

:love:


Kabs>wcj imho
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Post#4007 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 2:03 pm

Spud2nique wrote:Kabs>wcj imho


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Post#4008 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 2:05 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:That's a great picture:

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His body once he gets his adult weight will be insane. He is going to be a superstar. I wouldn't pass on him



I know I'm in the minority, but i still have RJ as the best long term prospect in this draft.


Enough to trade 8,10 and Prince to NY for 3 and Lance Thomas?
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Post#4009 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 2:08 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I know I'm in the minority, but i still have RJ as the best long term prospect in this draft.



Enough to trade 8,10 and Prince to NY for 3 and Lance Thomas?




Ummm... :dontknow:


I just think RJ Barrett is destined to be a top, productive player by age 25. Moreso than anyone else in this draft class.


Nas, Cam, Morant and Romeo have a chance. But it's no sure thing.
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Post#4010 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 2:12 pm

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Spud2nique wrote:Kabs>wcj imho


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Probably not fundamentally. Just more heart and desire to compete. But like you’ve said before, Wendell has to have more game coming and showing up in his draft gear. :o Swahili love!
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Post#4011 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 2:14 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I know I'm in the minority, but i still have RJ as the best long term prospect in this draft.



Enough to trade 8,10 and Prince to NY for 3 and Lance Thomas?




Ummm... :dontknow:


I just think RJ Barrett is destined to be a top, productive player by age 25. Moreso than anyone else in this draft class.


Nas, Cam, Morant and Romeo have a chance. But it's no sure thing.


I would have to agree. Initially I thought he wouldn’t be a match with Trae, now, he might be the perfect 3 for us. Damn.

The players you listed above probably not, but interesting that you didn’t list Culver up there. Wouldn’t mind somehow being able to move up for Jarrett, that kid can ball.
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Post#4012 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 2:17 pm

Spud2nique wrote:I would have to agree. Initially I thought he wouldn’t be a match with Trae, now, he might be the perfect 3 for us. Damn.

The players you listed above probably not, but interesting that you didn’t list Culver up there. Wouldn’t mind somehow being able to move up for Jarrett, that kid can ball.



I love Jarrett Culver.

But his ceiling is 'sidekick', fringe All Star.
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Post#4013 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 2:29 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:I would have to agree. Initially I thought he wouldn’t be a match with Trae, now, he might be the perfect 3 for us. Damn.

The players you listed above probably not, but interesting that you didn’t list Culver up there. Wouldn’t mind somehow being able to move up for Jarrett, that kid can ball.



I love Jarrett Culver.

But his ceiling is 'sidekick', fringe All Star.


They put a ceiling on him? Already? Dang. With his work ethic I wouldn’t put a ceiling on him just yet. Time will tell I guess. Culver fits well with our culture though without question.

I’ve said this before and it’s a cross sports reference but Culver has a “Jerry Rice” vibe in him. I can’t point to what it is but remind me of when Rice came out in 85 from Mississippi Valley State and shocked the NFL. Same thing with culver coming from Texas Tech. I don’t remember any top prospects picking a nonbasketball school like that. Also like Lillard coming from Weber.
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Post#4014 » by King Ken » Fri May 31, 2019 2:33 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:I would have to agree. Initially I thought he wouldn’t be a match with Trae, now, he might be the perfect 3 for us. Damn.

The players you listed above probably not, but interesting that you didn’t list Culver up there. Wouldn’t mind somehow being able to move up for Jarrett, that kid can ball.



I love Jarrett Culver.

But his ceiling is 'sidekick', fringe All Star.


They put a ceiling on him? Already? Dang. With his work ethic I wouldn’t put a ceiling on him just yet. Time will tell I guess. Culver fits well with our culture though without question.

I’ve said this before and it’s a cross sports reference but Culver has a “Jerry Rice” vibe in him. I can’t point to what it is but remind me of when Rice came out in 85 from Mississippi Valley State and shocked the NFL. Same thing with culver coming from Texas Tech. I don’t remember any top prospects picking a nonbasketball school like that. Also like Lillard coming from Weber.

Lol, we gonna have to agree to disagree. I personally think fringe all star is high praise and maybe too high. You saying he is Jerry Rice. Whoa!

As for R.J., I love him as a prospect but I question his fit even more than Culver for us. I'll easily rather stick to 8 and 10 and get two wangz. Hopefully Cam and Little
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Post#4015 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 2:37 pm

King Ken wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:

I love Jarrett Culver.

But his ceiling is 'sidekick', fringe All Star.


They put a ceiling on him? Already? Dang. With his work ethic I wouldn’t put a ceiling on him just yet. Time will tell I guess. Culver fits well with our culture though without question.

I’ve said this before and it’s a cross sports reference but Culver has a “Jerry Rice” vibe in him. I can’t point to what it is but remind me of when Rice came out in 85 from Mississippi Valley State and shocked the NFL. Same thing with culver coming from Texas Tech. I don’t remember any top prospects picking a nonbasketball school like that. Also like Lillard coming from Weber.

Lol, we gonna have to agree to disagree. I personally think fringe all star is high praise and maybe too high. You saying he is Jerry Rice. Whoa!

As for R.J., I love him as a prospect but I question his fit even more than Culver for us. I'll easily rather stick to 8 and 10 and get two wangz. Hopefully Cam and Little


Lol. Well his path and quiet character seems reminiscent of Jerry, he isn’t actually Jerry. :wink:

We can disagree. It’s still fun to get different views. I know we disagree on Culver and Clarke for sure. We agree on Cam n Kabs.
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Post#4016 » by King Ken » Fri May 31, 2019 3:30 pm

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Post#4017 » by Jamaaliver » Fri May 31, 2019 3:35 pm




Agreed. So much analysis, i'm still parsing through trying to figure out what I can get away with posting.
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Post#4018 » by King Ken » Fri May 31, 2019 3:40 pm

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Agreed. So much analysis, i'm still parsing through trying to figure out what I can get away with posting.

The thing he is dead on about this us talking about trading out of #10. I been hearing we want two to three more 1sts rounders. Some future 1sts. They like 2020 draft class as well.
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Post#4019 » by King Ken » Fri May 31, 2019 3:41 pm

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They put a ceiling on him? Already? Dang. With his work ethic I wouldn’t put a ceiling on him just yet. Time will tell I guess. Culver fits well with our culture though without question.

I’ve said this before and it’s a cross sports reference but Culver has a “Jerry Rice” vibe in him. I can’t point to what it is but remind me of when Rice came out in 85 from Mississippi Valley State and shocked the NFL. Same thing with culver coming from Texas Tech. I don’t remember any top prospects picking a nonbasketball school like that. Also like Lillard coming from Weber.

Lol, we gonna have to agree to disagree. I personally think fringe all star is high praise and maybe too high. You saying he is Jerry Rice. Whoa!

As for R.J., I love him as a prospect but I question his fit even more than Culver for us. I'll easily rather stick to 8 and 10 and get two wangz. Hopefully Cam and Little


Lol. Well his path and quiet character seems reminiscent of Jerry, he isn’t actually Jerry. :wink:

We can disagree. It’s still fun to get different views. I know we disagree on Culver and Clarke for sure. We agree on Cam n Kabs.

Yep. I like Clarke a lot but I've said, he isn't a day 1 wing. He needs time to develop but when he does, he could be one of the best players from this class.
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Post#4020 » by Spud2nique » Fri May 31, 2019 4:34 pm

King Ken wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
King Ken wrote:Lol, we gonna have to agree to disagree. I personally think fringe all star is high praise and maybe too high. You saying he is Jerry Rice. Whoa!

As for R.J., I love him as a prospect but I question his fit even more than Culver for us. I'll easily rather stick to 8 and 10 and get two wangz. Hopefully Cam and Little


Lol. Well his path and quiet character seems reminiscent of Jerry, he isn’t actually Jerry. :wink:

We can disagree. It’s still fun to get different views. I know we disagree on Culver and Clarke for sure. We agree on Cam n Kabs.

Yep. I like Clarke a lot but I've said, he isn't a day 1 wing. He needs time to develop but when he does, he could be one of the best players from this class.



He’s not a wing is definitely true but we are so early in the development I’d personally still go BPA over positions needed like wings for us. Clarke is gonna be good I think.

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