OT: Recreational use of Marijuana will be legal in Illinois

[Mbrahv0528]

Basically I just vape.
Weed is a poison but the decriminalization makes it more humane for consumption as it can provide medicinal advantages

Poison? It's a goddamn plant. Where do you people come up with this nonsense? Holy hell. Again, exactly why we have prohibition in the first place.

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[johnnyvann840]

I wonder how long it will take before there are shops you can just walk into. Whether medical dispensaries will just be converted to recreational or what.

They won't. The medical dispensaries will stay medical. Just like in Colorado they still have medical dispensaries. Medical is taxed less and has higher standards for purity and labeling accuracy.

[Ccwatercraft]

Bears tailgating will he more interesting this season.

[Payt10]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but an opinion nonetheless: Most, if not all, drugs should be legalized. Do what you want to your body. We've already proven prohibition doesn't work.

[madvillian]

I wonder how long it will take before there are shops you can just walk into. Whether medical dispensaries will just be converted to recreational or what.

They won't. The medical dispensaries will stay medical. Just like in Colorado they still have medical dispensaries. Medical is taxed less and has higher standards for purity and labeling accuracy.

I was down in Cali this spring and bought weed down there for the 1st time. Such a different experience than Washington state. In Washington it's way more casual you just show up, show ID, and buy weed. In Cali they had us fill out a form and had to add us to a database the store has to maintain. Apparently the state requires this. I can't remember what the receptionist said the purpose of it was. I wasn't really feeling it but whatever.

So once you get registered you sit in an area and it felt like a jail visitation area. Then we got called into the actual display area and then it was pretty much just like Washington although we had to go back to the front to pay.

[Jimako10]

Basically I just vape.
Weed is a poison but the decriminalization makes it more humane for consumption as it can provide medicinal advantages

Poison? It's a goddamn plant. Where do you people come up with this nonsense? Holy hell. Again, exactly why we have prohibition in the first place.

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Seriously, sugar is more of a poison.

[RedBulls23]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but an opinion nonetheless: Most, if not all, drugs should be legalized. Do what you want to your body. We've already proven prohibition doesn't work.

Not sure. Making harder dangerous drugs more easily accessible would have more of a negative affect where moe people would do it and get addicted. Like how the opioid crisis started.

Just a thought.

[dumbell78]

This has nothing to do with some morality debate. Newly elected governor and state officials are trying to find any tax revenue possible. They will look to drain blood from a rock if you could tax it. The state is a mess, just look at some of the other inventive ways they want to generate revenue. I'm glad I left, seems like the state can never get it right.

I'm indifferent with weed, frankly if you can smoke it responsibly, go for broke. The medicinal benefits are there obviously, so are the idiots just smoking it all day. I rather they actually try address the opoiod epedemic, no that's a real issue.

[johnnyvann840]

Where did you come up with this theory?

You might be surprised at how many uneducated folks still place weed on the same level as crack, meth and heroin.

Weed is ONLY dangerous if you get arrested for possessing it.

Nobody is saying Weed is on the same level as crack, meth, and heroin. But Giving weed to the wrong person can have bad effects. Btw I worked on the fire department/ ambulance and saw first hand what weed can do to some people, especially people who have diagnosed/ undiagnosed mental health disorders such as schizophrenia and other issues.

Listen, you're wrong about this. I will agree with you that cannabis use is not for everyone but legalizing it is not going to make anymore people use it that weren't already using it. The vast VAST majority of users have no issues with it, mental health wise and for the minuscule fraction of a percent of people that it does affect could access it just as easily without legalization. That is a fact. It might as well do some greater good in the form of taxes and education of people on the pitfalls, as well as getting higher quality, purer and safer product to the people who do use it. That is what legalization will do.

I have been in the industry and have seen the benefits and the improvements in safety and product quality, firsthand, when you can do things the right way and not have to hide from the law. I've grown thousands of lbs of cannabis and I can tell you that I feel I have helped more people, exponentially more, than I've ever hurt. I had one of the first warehouses in Colorado that opened in 2009 and have grown both medical and recreational. I've grown medical marijuana in Illinois for one of the largest dispensaries there and I just finished getting a farm in Alaska up to standards. In the 5 and half months I was in AK, we paid over $300,000 alone in state excise taxes and employed a dozen people locally. Now there are more jobs and the product is better and safer.

In Colorado the roads actually got safer since the legalization. There have been very little health issues and very close to the same amount of people use it. The problem was that the bordering states still have prohibition and so much of the product was going out of the state. It was worth more in other places which encouraged growers to transport it. There is your crime.

Btw, where I was in AK, there was almost no crime rate at all. Like zero. Maybe a bike getting stolen is about as bad as it gets there. And btw, everyone there has a gun too because you pretty much have to have one. you know, bears and other things.

Here's me in one of the veg rooms...


One of our flowering rooms....

[RedBulls23]

This has nothing to do with some morality debate. Newly elected governor and state officials are trying to find any tax revenue possible. They will look to drain blood from a rock if you could tax it. The state is a mess, just look at some of the other inventive ways they want to generate revenue. I'm glad I left, seems like the state can never get it right.

I'm indifferent with weed, frankly if you can smoke it responsibly, go for broke. The medicinal benefits are there obviously, so are the idiots just smoking it all day. I rather they actually try address the opoiod epedemic, no that's a real issue.

Making Marijuana legal federally would take steps towards addressing the opioid crisis. A lot of people got addicted to pain killers and hard drugs. That where medical Marijuana comes in.

[BR0D1E86]

Not a big fan of making weed available to everyone. Most people can handle it fine but it does ruin some lives.

That said, it already is available to everyone. The fact that it is illegal makes it ruin even more lives. Instead of getting tax revenue from the sale of this crap we pay money to criminalize and incarcerate.

To add to this, the fact that alcohol is legal, which has similar if not worse issues with addiction and mental impairment makes it simply illogical for weed to be illegal.

I have no major problem with marijuana being legal. I had a major problem when my state (Colorado) was one of the first states to do so. We got swamped by professional transients. Property crimes went up significantly in my area, and there are disgusting homeless camps covered in human waste and drug paraphernalia everywhere.

I have a bigger problem with Colorado moving a step closer to decriminalizing meth and heroin. It’s now not an arrestable offense. So I’m expecting another wave of disgusting people.

[Payt10]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but an opinion nonetheless: Most, if not all, drugs should be legalized. Do what you want to your body. We've already proven prohibition doesn't work.

Not sure. Making harder dangerous drugs more easily accessible would have more of a negative affect where moe people would do it and get addicted. Like how the opioid crisis started.

Just a thought.

Legitimate businesses and nonprofits are much safer than drug cartels and gangs. People are much more likely to not do drugs for fear of what it will do to their body rather than the law. The ones that do drugs will find ways to do them regardless of the law.

[johnnyvann840]

Not a big fan of making weed available to everyone. Most people can handle it fine but it does ruin some lives.

That said, it already is available to everyone. The fact that it is illegal makes it ruin even more lives. Instead of getting tax revenue from the sale of this crap we pay money to criminalize and incarcerate.

To add to this, the fact that alcohol is legal, which has similar if not worse issues with addiction and mental impairment makes it simply illogical for weed to be illegal.

I have no major problem with marijuana being legal. I had a major problem when my state (Colorado) was one of the first states to do so. We got swamped by professional transients. Property crimes went up significantly in my area, and there are disgusting homeless camps covered in human waste and drug paraphernalia everywhere.

I have a bigger problem with Colorado moving a step closer to decriminalizing meth and heroin. It’s now not an arrestable offense. So I’m expecting another wave of disgusting people.

Yup, it's why I left. Too many people there for the wrong reasons.

[Ccwatercraft]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but an opinion nonetheless: Most, if not all, drugs should be legalized. Do what you want to your body. We've already proven prohibition doesn't work.

Thin the herd.

[RedBulls23]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but an opinion nonetheless: Most, if not all, drugs should be legalized. Do what you want to your body. We've already proven prohibition doesn't work.

Not sure. Making harder dangerous drugs more easily accessible would have more of a negative affect where moe people would do it and get addicted. Like how the opioid crisis started.

Just a thought.

Legitimate businesses and nonprofits are much safer than drug cartels and gangs. People are much more likely to not do drugs for fear of what it will do to their body rather than the law. The ones that do drugs will find ways to do them regardless of the law.

I think people are more likely to do something that gets normalized by legitimate businesses. The more things get normalized, the less stigma there is about those things.

[johnnyvann840]

I do miss the Colorado I knew and loved from 94 when I first got there until post legalization. I agree with brodie about legalization there ruining the Denver/Boulder/Fort Collins area for a lot of people. The population grew and property values doubled if not more. And he's right, it's not because it's legal there, it's because it's NOT legal in some other places. This drove a lot of undesirables to the state and ruined things. Everybody thought they were gonna "move to Colorado and become a pot millionaire". It doesn't work that way.

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[dice]

Not a big fan of making weed available to everyone. Most people can handle it fine but it does ruin some lives.

That said, it already is available to everyone. The fact that it is illegal makes it ruin even more lives. Instead of getting tax revenue from the sale of this crap we pay money to criminalize and incarcerate.

To add to this, the fact that alcohol is legal, which has similar if not worse issues with addiction and mental impairment makes it simply illogical for weed to be illegal.

if kids are now going to be making weed their "vice" rather than alcohol then it's saving lives

[dice]

Smh Illinois out of all states should not have weed legalized. The crime rate is going to increase even more now in result to this.

Where did you come up with this theory?

Therory? Weed can cause phycosis in some people with underlying mental health disorders. People who would not have used the drug due to consequences will now be able to use it without any penalty. Thus some people who have not had mental health issues in the past who take weed, can start to trigger these issues leading to violence.

damn that's some tortured reasoning

and you're wrong:

https://reason.com/2019/01/09/does-legalizing-marijuana-cause-sharp-in/

i assume that you're very vocal about banning alcohol

[dougthonus]

I've never smoked pot (or done any other illegal drugs), but I'm all for legalization. Criminalizing this is stupid as it costs tax payers tons of money for police/jails and denies tax revenue. It's not worse than other legal vices. I generally think if something isn't harming others and is only harming the individual then it is the individuals responsibility to manage their life.