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Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1141 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:44 pm

Been on the RJ bandwagon but the fact he’s doing this before the draft may mean he got a guarantee so he went ahead and took care of it. Even if he falls ill take him in a heart beat and watch lobs to Mitch and kick outs to Knox all day.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1142 » by moocow007 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:45 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Would you guys want a trade that was similar to ATL/DAL deal last year?
I prefered Doncic before the trade. I'd still prefer Doncic after the trade. The 10th overall pick IMO doesn't have sufficient value to make up the difference.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1143 » by King of Canada » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:49 pm

KawhiRaptors wrote:
Context wrote:
KawhiRaptors wrote:
Cavs drafted, Tristan, Anothony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins...pretty much every top Canadian prospect except the best one in Jamal Murray.

Not surprised they want RJ

I see the trend but what does that mean? is there some Toronto demographic connection?


not sure tbh ohio is kinda close so I'm sure canadians travel to the games. Maybe bc they have had Canadians in the past they made a TV deal w a Canadian company to air their games here. Saw that it was profitable and want to keep that market happy, I'm not sure tho.


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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1144 » by moocow007 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:50 pm

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I think a few do.

Hunter, Clarke, even Reddish who I'm not crazy about. You know, guys who can play defense.


Well if there is any truth to the Atlanta rumors it could be because Perry and the Knicks are so sure that Durant us coming and already are planning for guys like Hunter and Reddish. But IMO it's unlikely that both would be gettable at 8 and 10.

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Moo, whats your opinion on both guys if the knicks got the nod to get a more ready player?


Between Hunter and Reddish? Hunter is more ready to fit in right away. I think his aggressive mentality and familiarity with being more of a role player will allow him to fit right away. Hunter can also shoot and his defensive ability should allow him to get big minutes. Reddish however has more NBA tools and upside than probably half a dozen guys that are projected to go ahead of him. If you can turn Reddish's switch on he could turn out to be an elite player.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1145 » by moocow007 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:55 pm

Jeffrey wrote:This could be a prelude to the AD trade. What if NO would rather have Sexton than Frank?
If Durant is coming then I'd rather they trade for AD.

So if it makes more sense and provides more value for the Knicks in a trade then sure. But to be quite honest I think the best shot to trade for AD is involving Zions "brother from another mother" Barrett.

If Durant isn't coming then no thanks I'd much rather keep Barrett.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1146 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:56 pm

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1147 » by jermsknicks » Sat Jun 1, 2019 8:58 pm

Tron Carter wrote:5 and another unprotected. More assets for a Davis trade.

If RJ is still @ 3, I would think the Pelicans would see him as their biggest asset in a Knicks deal.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1148 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:07 pm

taj2133 wrote:memphis beat writer say this?
Read on Twitter

I’m thinking he got a promise by Memphis. No need to work out for other teams. I think Cam got a promise as well, seeing that he’s having a minor procedure as well
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1149 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:12 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
taj2133 wrote:memphis beat writer say this?
Read on Twitter

I’m thinking he got a promise by Memphis. No need to work out for other teams. I think Cam got a promise as well, seeing that he’s having a minor procedure as well

That’s what im saying. Why drop news now if you know it would impact draft stock ?
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1150 » by RHODEY » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:14 pm

KOA wrote:People are wayyyy overvaluing future picks.
When you have a prospect that would be the number 1 pick in most draft classes, would you really turn that down to move back, draft average players, and gamble on getting a future average player?

Would you trade Mitch Robinson for 2 average prospects? If not, then stop fooling yourselves and underselling RJ


But who said they'd be average? Especially if the future draft is expected to be much deeper? Ainge kind of blazed the trail here. Get tons of future picks for tons of future flexibility. Not saying we should or shouldn't go this way, but there certainly is a logic to it.

As for Mitch I dont even think I'd trade him for AD...
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1151 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:37 pm

JA just went live and said “I shouldn’t of got on this, everybody gunna talk about my knee, ain’t nothing wrong with my knee”
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1152 » by Dantares » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:39 pm

Man is a surgery where you are out nearly a month really a minor surgery? Can't those minor surgeries lead to problems in the future?

Maybe Ja falling to 3 could really haplen. Don't know if I would be upset at that because I have mentally sold myself on taking rj.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1153 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:47 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Sexton is definitely a good prospect and had a solid rookie year. Peep this.
Read on Twitter


Although I like Sexton a lot, I don’t like the fit next to DSJ. It would then come down to picking one of them and I would rather have DSJ.


I like DSJ over Sexton as well but the latter is a better fit to RJ.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1154 » by reub » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:49 pm

moocow007 wrote:
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moocow007 wrote:
Well if there is any truth to the Atlanta rumors it could be because Perry and the Knicks are so sure that Durant us coming and already are planning for guys like Hunter and Reddish. But IMO it's unlikely that both would be gettable at 8 and 10.

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Moo, whats your opinion on both guys if the knicks got the nod to get a more ready player?


Between Hunter and Reddish? Hunter is more ready to fit in right away. I think his aggressive mentality and familiarity with being more of a role player will allow him to fit right away. Hunter can also shoot and his defensive ability should allow him to get big minutes. Reddish however has more NBA tools and upside than probably half a dozen guys that are projected to go ahead of him. If you can turn Reddish's switch on he could turn out to be an elite player.

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Don't sleep on Clarke either. If we can trade down and get 2 of Hunter, Reddish and Clarke plus sign KD and KI or Kemba I'd be stoked.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1155 » by reub » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:51 pm

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I love Knox's work ethic and his shot but I want to see him working on improving his lateral footwork so that he can be more active on defense.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1156 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:At 4 I would take either Hunter or Garland. Would not take Culver. I think he's a solid all around player and all but don't think he'll be able to score enough or create enough offense to be worth taking so high.

Culver does not have an alpha personality, he has shaky handles, doesn't particularly shoot well and lacks explosiveness. That's going to work against him as an offensive impact player in the NBA. IMO the tournament exposed Culver as a guy that doesn't have the package to be a lead option on offense. Culver shot 24% from the field across the final 3 games of the tournament when he faced teams with NBA caliber defenses and opposing guards his size (and better athleticism) guarding him.

At least with Garland you get a superb shot creator, ball handler with a magic bag of ball shakes to create space, with good physical tools and a killer shot. Hunter, unlike Culver, saved his best offense for the biggest game and has all the looks of an elite defender (to go along with 3 point shooting). Hunter would be a perfect compliment piece for a Durant based Knick team.

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I agree with this. Would go as far as saying that I even have Cam Reddish higher on my draft board over Culver.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1157 » by NoLayupRule » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:52 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Sexton is definitely a good prospect and had a solid rookie year. Peep this.
Read on Twitter


these kind of things are hysterical

he tied tim duncan for that rookie mark

one minor difference.

Duncan did it on a championship team where he was the best player his rookie year
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1158 » by NoLayupRule » Sat Jun 1, 2019 9:56 pm

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moocow007 wrote:At 4 I would take either Hunter or Garland. Would not take Culver. I think he's a solid all around player and all but don't think he'll be able to score enough or create enough offense to be worth taking so high.

Culver does not have an alpha personality, he has shaky handles, doesn't particularly shoot well and lacks explosiveness. That's going to work against him as an offensive impact player in the NBA. IMO the tournament exposed Culver as a guy that doesn't have the package to be a lead option on offense. Culver shot 24% from the field across the final 3 games of the tournament when he faced teams with NBA caliber defenses and opposing guards his size (and better athleticism) guarding him.

At least with Garland you get a superb shot creator, ball handler with a magic bag of ball shakes to create space, with good physical tools and a killer shot. Hunter, unlike Culver, saved his best offense for the biggest game and has all the looks of an elite defender (to go along with 3 point shooting). Hunter would be a perfect compliment piece for a Durant based Knick team.

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I agree with this. Would go as far as saying that I even have Cam Reddish higher on my draft board over Culver.

the sample sizes for Cam and Garland are interesting

Garland played what, 8 games? Yet his shooting and handle make him a very intriguing prospect
Cam played the whole season, was underwhelming and near invisible next to his better teammates but again its that upside

Id feel better about Cam had he played 8 games and had his physical tools and better about Garland had he played a whole season with his production sustained


that said Culver doesn't pass the eye test to me
hes a mid lottery talent to my eye

Id take Hunter
3andD guys like him at least can add scoring. ala Kawhi
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1159 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Jun 1, 2019 10:01 pm

taj2133 wrote:
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Oh yeah Glen Grunwald is helping run the Grizzlies now.

Glen was doing a good job for us prior to that Bargnani trade. I forgot that he’s CEO of Canada Basketball.

We guys should be prepared to see RJ go at #2 and have an idea what the Suns and Bulls are willing to give up for Ja. Reddish and Hunter may be available at 6 and 7.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1160 » by F N 11 » Sat Jun 1, 2019 10:13 pm

reub wrote:
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I love Knox's work ethic and his shot but I want to see him working on improving his lateral footwork so that he can be more active on defense.

I told another poster that the first video I saw of Knox was I’m working on just that! Defense! Wish I could find the clip.
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