Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread

[Papi_swav]

As a side discussion, watching the playoffs what is evident is that teams are switching a lot in order to take away the three and disrupt offenses.

This is something the Nets need to really consider doing more, and continue to look at the roster to be able to do this.

Not saying you switch all the time, but players especially stars in the playoffs dictate that you do so.

Not only does it limit the threes, but you also disrupt an offense rhythm and force them to go ISO. This stagnates the offense, an antithesis of what "modern" basketball wants to do.

It also means that your players need to be able to create off the dribble vs man and find open guys when the double comes.

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Nets been doing this though, this is a big reason why we drafted Allen, because he can switch on smaller guys and keep up unlike Brook Lopez. Just look at our roster top to bottom, Dinwiddie can guard 1 to 4s, Levert can guard 1 to 3s, Kurucs can guard 4-1s, RHJ can guard 1-5s, DMC can guard 2-4s etc .. we've been doing this we just need better talent.

Nope we rarely switch. Allen almost always zones back with our guard playing trail.

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We definitely do switch enough, we played a lot of zone this year but how many times have we seen Kurucs guarding point guards? many times. DInwiddie guarding 4s etc.. Allen not so much because we need him down low and IDK how many other centers can guard a point guard perfectly every time. But if we have to switch, I would rather Allen guarding the point guard then Brook Lopez or the majority of other centers in the league.

[DeRoma]

As a side discussion, watching the playoffs what is evident is that teams are switching a lot in order to take away the three and disrupt offenses.

This is something the Nets need to really consider doing more, and continue to look at the roster to be able to do this.

Not saying you switch all the time, but players especially stars in the playoffs dictate that you do so.

Not only does it limit the threes, but you also disrupt an offense rhythm and force them to go ISO. This stagnates the offense, an antithesis of what "modern" basketball wants to do.

It also means that your players need to be able to create off the dribble vs man and find open guys when the double comes.

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Nets been doing this though, this is a big reason why we drafted Allen, because he can switch on smaller guys and keep up unlike Brook Lopez. Just look at our roster top to bottom, Dinwiddie can guard 1 to 4s, Levert can guard 1 to 3s, Kurucs can guard 4-1s, RHJ can guard 1-5s, DMC can guard 2-4s etc .. we've been doing this we just need better talent.

Nope we rarely switch. Allen almost always zones back with our guard playing trail.

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That's true but that's also the case of keeping a big man on the paint for the abilty to double, contest the drive, and clog the cutters. I think we can be a lot more flexible with our defensive strategy if we get bigger wings out there who won't get bodied on the perimeter.

[MGrand15]

As a side discussion, watching the playoffs what is evident is that teams are switching a lot in order to take away the three and disrupt offenses.

This is something the Nets need to really consider doing more, and continue to look at the roster to be able to do this.

Not saying you switch all the time, but players especially stars in the playoffs dictate that you do so.

Not only does it limit the threes, but you also disrupt an offense rhythm and force them to go ISO. This stagnates the offense, an antithesis of what "modern" basketball wants to do.

It also means that your players need to be able to create off the dribble vs man and find open guys when the double comes.

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Yeah we need to switch more instead of running to zone.

It's kind of a waste that we had Russell and Dinwiddie at PG 6'5+ with length + Rodi/RHJ/Carroll at 4 and we rarely switched. We were built for it.

[Prokorov]

As a side discussion, watching the playoffs what is evident is that teams are switching a lot in order to take away the three and disrupt offenses.

This is something the Nets need to really consider doing more, and continue to look at the roster to be able to do this.

Not saying you switch all the time, but players especially stars in the playoffs dictate that you do so.

Not only does it limit the threes, but you also disrupt an offense rhythm and force them to go ISO. This stagnates the offense, an antithesis of what "modern" basketball wants to do.

It also means that your players need to be able to create off the dribble vs man and find open guys when the double comes.

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Yeah we need to switch more instead of running to zone.

It's kind of a waste that we had Russell and Dinwiddie at PG 6'5+ with length + Rodi/RHJ/Carroll at 4 and we rarely switched. We were built for it.

we were drastically better as a zone team... it is one of the main reasons we made the plauoffs, i made us at least competant defensively supplementing with man.

im sure markinson would love to switch, but we don't have the horses. our team is full of average to poor defenders.

Levert, dinwiddie, crabbe, napier, are all poor defenders. although crabbe has looked better here at times. Harris, Russell, Kurucs Allen Davis are average to below.

typically you switch because a mismatch is better then trailing on a screen but in most cases its not for us.

[MGrand15]

As a side discussion, watching the playoffs what is evident is that teams are switching a lot in order to take away the three and disrupt offenses.

This is something the Nets need to really consider doing more, and continue to look at the roster to be able to do this.

Not saying you switch all the time, but players especially stars in the playoffs dictate that you do so.

Not only does it limit the threes, but you also disrupt an offense rhythm and force them to go ISO. This stagnates the offense, an antithesis of what "modern" basketball wants to do.

It also means that your players need to be able to create off the dribble vs man and find open guys when the double comes.

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Yeah we need to switch more instead of running to zone.

It's kind of a waste that we had Russell and Dinwiddie at PG 6'5+ with length + Rodi/RHJ/Carroll at 4 and we rarely switched. We were built for it.

we were drastically better as a zone team... it is one of the main reasons we made the plauoffs, i made us at least competant defensively supplementing with man.

im sure markinson would love to switch, but we don't have the horses. our team is full of average to poor defenders.

Levert, dinwiddie, crabbe, napier, are all poor defenders. although crabbe has looked better here at times. Harris, Russell, Kurucs Allen Davis are average to below.

typically you switch because a mismatch is better then trailing on a screen but in most cases its not for us.

The zone was fine. I'm not killing it. It encourages ball movement which confuses PNR teams and selfish, low IQ teams. When teams are good and prepared for it, it's just not as effective.

Switching encourages ISO ball. Guys like Dinwiddie, LeVert, Kurucs are much better if you try to go at them one on one. They struggle with screens and making quick decisions on defense. Harris and Russell are kind of the opposite. Kenny only really went to it when we were 100% desperate. I'd like to see us try it more. Especially since there's basically no evidence a zone could work in the playoffs.

[Netaman]

It's kind of ironic, but if we completely strike out at F in FA this year, Otto Porter is kind of a perfect target for an allen crabbe trade 2.0 (ft. Allen Crabbe).

Let's put whatever happens in the backcourt to the side for a second and say that the 3 top FA targets are Leonard, Durant, & Harris. Obviously the first 2 are elite so let's focus on the Harris comp. I'd still prefer him (Harris) since he's a better player than Porter, but when you factor in $ (2 years @ 27m vs. 4 years $32m) and the possibility of simultaneously offloading Crabbe, all of a sudden we've found a solid replacement if the top FA choose to sign elsewhere. I'd 100% prefer taking on Porter to the risk of a Jimmy Butler contract.

Especially if Anthony Davis doesn't get dealt during the draft, all of a sudden we've maintained a big chunk of cap room, all young assets, and added a starting caliber combo forward who is a great system fit. Hopefully a couple more good big guy prospects in the draft too.

[Prokorov]

I'm only taking porter if it comes with tbe bulls swapping the lotto pick for our 27 pick. Porter is a glorfied crabbe on more money and i want no part of making the same mistake twice, especially with a ton of cap room. i hope marks learned his lesson with throwing idiotic money at role players and then trading for them.

[Netaman]

I'm only taking porter if it comes with tbe bulls swapping the lotto pick for our 27 pick. Porter is a glorfied crabbe on more money and i want no part of making the same mistake twice, especially with a ton of cap room. i hope marks learned his lesson with throwing idiotic money at role players and then trading for them.

There are a few differences vs. Crabbe, main ones being - 1) Porter is just an all around better player and 2) he plays more of a position of need.

In the 2 years prior to the Wizards absolutely crapping the bed last year Porter was a top 25 player in WS. His WS/48 for his entire career is the 40th best among active players. His vorp in the prior 2 years was top 20 in the league. So he's been a much more productive player over his career. By contrast Crabbe was a projection hoping his productivity could increase in this system + a starting role. I acknowledge Porter's productivity and statistical prowess is tied to efficiency and isn't a star - but kind of like Marion on the Suns I think his efficiency could be a perfect complimentary piece here in this system.

As far as a position of need, RHJ + Carroll's fall offs last year was clearly felt on both sides of the ball. A combo forward who can spread the floor down the stretch, find the open man, and defend well is among the top needs on the team. Even if he's not necessarily a guy who can create for himself like Tobias Harris, Porter can pretty much do everything else and he's 1/3 the total $ cost.

Overall I think Porter would be a really interesting piece and a nice compliment to Kurocs in the front court. 2 long guys who can defend and spread the floor allowing the guards to penetrate. If we just swapped Porter for Crabbe I think this team would easily take a step forward to win 45+, while maintaining a decent chunk of room to operate under the cap. Not as interesting as Durant, Harris, Leonard, or AD obviously, but IMO probably a better fallback plan than Mirotic or Randle. And definitely better than maxing out Butler.

[Netaman]

btw I have no idea what kind of contract he will command, but if Horford leaves Boston I could see the Nets giving him a big 1 or 2 year deal with some options on it. Not exactly the dynamic offensive player who'd help spread the floor but probably the best realistic target in the entire league to shore up defensively and on the glass. Plus obviously the Atkinson connection. Not the ideal guy next to Allen but I think they could co-exist on the floor together.

[Aussienet3]

1 player who I think has been really overlooked in up coming FA is DMC. Injuries??? I trust our medical staff. Attitude??? I trust our coaching staff. Contract??? I trust Marks.

[Prokorov]

i dont see a fit for cousins. allen is the center of the future and they are looking to draft a backup center according to reports

porter would be an awful move if he doesnt come attached with the bulls lotto pick

[DeRoma]

i dont see a fit for cousins. allen is the center of the future and they are looking to draft a backup center according to reports

porter would be an awful move if he doesnt come attached with the bulls lotto pick

I think that report is BS. There is no way we have 2 young centers in our team when we obviously need a wing. A third string rookie is fine but not with the 17th pick.

[Prokorov]

i dont see a fit for cousins. allen is the center of the future and they are looking to draft a backup center according to reports

porter would be an awful move if he doesnt come attached with the bulls lotto pick

I think that report is BS. There is no way we have 2 young centers in our team when we obviously need a wing. A third string rookie is fine but not with the 17th pick.

who said the 17 pick?

also it wouldnt be third string as davis is likely gone

[Rockice_24]

Anyone this Luka is going to be our target? Seems like he may not make it to #27 so #17 seems like the spot we'd need to pull the trigger. Looks like the perfect PF in this lineup? 6'11" he's a plus athlete and can shoot from 3.

[vincecarter4pres]

Wonder is Suns will offer the 6 for Dinwiddie?

[SunsLyf3]

Greetings Nets fans. Suns fan here just inquiring about the curious case of D'angelo Russell. It seems you guys are headed for a great offseason with Kyrie and potentially a 2nd star FA signing in BK. With that being said if Kyrie signs, as well as another star, do you guys believe Russell stays? Also what kind of package would you ask for in a S&T? TJ Warren and #6(we would have to draft the prospect for you I believe) for Dloading and #18?

[TheNetsFan]

Greetings Nets fans. Suns fan here just inquiring about the curious case of D'angelo Russell. It seems you guys are headed for a great offseason with Kyrie and potentially a 2nd star FA signing in BK. With that being said if Kyrie signs, as well as another star, do you guys believe Russell stays? Also what kind of package would you ask for in a S&T? TJ Warren and #6(we would have to draft the prospect for you I believe) for Dloading and #18?

If the 2nd star is KD, Russell has to go with no salary returned. If it's Kyrie and another 30% max, we could probably keep Russell by moving Crabbe & Dinwiddie, especially if one is a borderline max like Tobias Harris. Warren & #6 doesn't save nearly enough cap to make it worthwhile for the Nets to give up on DLo.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Wonder is Suns will offer the 6 for Dinwiddie?

Not straight up, of course not.

Can Dinwiddie be traded on draft night?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Greetings Nets fans. Suns fan here just inquiring about the curious case of D'angelo Russell. It seems you guys are headed for a great offseason with Kyrie and potentially a 2nd star FA signing in BK. With that being said if Kyrie signs, as well as another star, do you guys believe Russell stays? Also what kind of package would you ask for in a S&T? TJ Warren and #6(we would have to draft the prospect for you I believe) for Dloading and #18?

#6 AND TJ for D'Lo on a max or near-max? Settle down, brother. Desperate dudes don't get the hot girl.

[DeRoma]

Greetings Nets fans. Suns fan here just inquiring about the curious case of D'angelo Russell. It seems you guys are headed for a great offseason with Kyrie and potentially a 2nd star FA signing in BK. With that being said if Kyrie signs, as well as another star, do you guys believe Russell stays? Also what kind of package would you ask for in a S&T? TJ Warren and #6(we would have to draft the prospect for you I believe) for Dloading and #18?

#6 AND TJ for D'Lo on a max or near-max? Settle down, brother. Desperate dudes don't get the hot girl.

if we trade dlo to the suns, we'd be asking is probably the 6th and mikal bridges knowing that 2 superstars are coming to the nets