2019 NBA Finals Thread #4: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TIED AT 1

[OkcSinceSGA]

Thank you Warriors. Please get healthy and dominate the next 2 at Oracle.

[BayArea408415]

dude, other people already told you. you're being extremely disingenuous when you keep repeating 34 pts on 20 shots. It's not true. He got 18 points on those 20 shots. The rest came on FTs.

this is a bad look for u.

Kawhi got some of his FT’s off soft calls or shoulder barges/push off’s as well. I guess some of them washed with a soft call or two in favor of Steph but what matters is that Kawhi didn’t look great when it mattered despite his stat line.

Crazy to think that even with KD out..gsw can still field a lineup of steph,klay,iguodala,green,boogie

I really like the fit of that unit as well.

How long was that lineup on the court together though? Steph, Klay and Iguodala all left the game at different points for extended time due to injury/being sick. If they were all healthy, that’s definitely a lineup that would cleanup against most teams going big.

[HBK_Kliq_33]

Right. Kawhi really needs to step up. 13-34 fg for 38%, 28fta (45.6% of his points come from fts), 8 assists: 7 TO for the series

34 points on 20 FGA while getting double teamed half the game, 14 rebounds including offensive rebounds late in the 4th quarter that were keeping them in the game and he set the finals record for most freethrows without a miss. Siakam\Gasol just played terrible tonight and Lowry was in foul trouble all while playing against 4 allstars. I don't understand how that's a bad game from Leonard, if Siakam even has an average game or Lowry was out of foul trouble they probably win tonight's game.

dude, other people already told you. you're being extremely disingenuous when you keep repeating 34 pts on 20 shots. It's not true. He got 18 points on those 20 shots. The rest came on FTs.

this is a bad look for u.

34 points on 27 possessions and 20 shots is still great as said earlier. He pretty much had a James Harden type scoring game. Breaking the record for 16 freethrows made without a miss? He was historic and you're just overlooking it but to each its own.

[trickshot]

LOL Most stacked team ever wins with the help of the refs.

Repeating this multiple times in each series thread before it is closed does not make it true. Curry missed key minutes in the 1st half due to being sick and shot 0-5 to start the game. Klay missed the 4th quarter due to injuring his hamstring and Cousins is still hobbled. Even Iguodala had to leave the game shortly in the 2nd half too. This is on top of Durant being out.

At one point in the 2nd quarter, the Warriors trotted our Klay with Cousins + borderline D league players for several minutes. You’re acting like this is a 100% healthy Warriors team with Durant playing out there. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

As for the refs, they were terrible both ways. At the very least, most neutral fans can see that. The 3rd quarter run by the Warriors and scoring drought cost the Raptors. Siakam’s 14/17 from last game averaged out to 19/35 after going 5/18 this game so that was significant as well. Green’s defense on him was great.

Youre right Warriors werent 100% but don't think you realise how much you're proving his point with this. Klay+Cousins is a lineup half the league's GMs would build a team around and you mention it casually because of the glut of talent your team is accustomed to. Not a championship team but if that's your team's worst case scenario you're living the good life

[HBK_Kliq_33]

dude, other people already told you. you're being extremely disingenuous when you keep repeating 34 pts on 20 shots. It's not true. He got 18 points on those 20 shots. The rest came on FTs.

this is a bad look for u.

Kawhi got some of his FT’s off soft calls or shoulder barges/push off’s as well. I guess some of them washed with a soft call or two in favor of Steph but what matters is that Kawhi didn’t look great when it mattered despite his stat line.

The warriors offense went about 5 minutes without even scoring in the 4th quarter, I wouldn't say anybody on their team dominated late in the game either. Kawhi just got no help tonight in that 3rd quarter.

[BayArea408415]

Youre right Warriors werent 100% but don't think you realise how much you're proving his point with this. Klay+Cousins is a lineup half the league's GMs would build a team around and you mention it casually because of the glut of talent your team is accustomed to. Not a championship team but if that's your team's worst case scenario you're living the good life

Klay + Cousins will not get you anywhere near a title. Especially, a variation of Cousins who returned from an achilles injury and then suffered a quad tear a month ago. This is Klay with a hobbled and out of shape Cousins.

I thought Cousins was amazing tonight for his condition but this is not all-star Cousins out there right now. We only saw glimpses of that during the regular season.

[BayArea408415]

dude, other people already told you. you're being extremely disingenuous when you keep repeating 34 pts on 20 shots. It's not true. He got 18 points on those 20 shots. The rest came on FTs.

this is a bad look for u.

Kawhi got some of his FT’s off soft calls or shoulder barges/push off’s as well. I guess some of them washed with a soft call or two in favor of Steph but what matters is that Kawhi didn’t look great when it mattered despite his stat line.

The warriors offense went about 5 minutes without even scoring in the 4th quarter, I wouldn't say anybody on their team dominated late in the game either. Kawhi just got no help tonight in that 3rd quarter.

I wouldn’t disagree. The Warriors won the game with their 18-0 run and then trading buckets with the Raptors before going cold and holding on despite multiple turnovers late. It was a 7-8 point game with around 3 minutes left. The Warriors would have won more comfortably if not for Green’s turnover on the reviewed call. It was a 5 point game before that wasted possession with a minute left.

[HBK_Kliq_33]

Kawhi got some of his FT’s off soft calls or shoulder barges/push off’s as well. I guess some of them washed with a soft call or two in favor of Steph but what matters is that Kawhi didn’t look great when it mattered despite his stat line.

The warriors offense went about 5 minutes without even scoring in the 4th quarter, I wouldn't say anybody on their team dominated late in the game either. Kawhi just got no help tonight in that 3rd quarter.

I wouldn’t disagree. The Warriors won the game with their 18-0 run and then trading buckets with the Raptors before going cold and holding on despite multiple turnovers late. It was a 7-8 point game with around 3 minutes left. The Warriors would have won more comfortably if not for Green’s turnover on the reviewed call. It was a 5 point game before that wasted possession with a minute left.

Game 2 was Kawhi putting up 34 and 14 playing against four all nba players and his only other offensive option was Fred Vanvleet, not sure how losing by 5 points is kawhi's fault. Warriors just have the better team even without Durant.

[SF_Warriors]

dude, other people already told you. you're being extremely disingenuous when you keep repeating 34 pts on 20 shots. It's not true. He got 18 points on those 20 shots. The rest came on FTs.

this is a bad look for u.

Kawhi got some of his FT’s off soft calls or shoulder barges/push off’s as well. I guess some of them washed with a soft call or two in favor of Steph but what matters is that Kawhi didn’t look great when it mattered despite his stat line.

Crazy to think that even with KD out..gsw can still field a lineup of steph,klay,iguodala,green,boogie

I really like the fit of that unit as well.

How long was that lineup on the court together though? Steph, Klay and Iguodala all left the game at different points for extended time due to injury/being sick. If they were all healthy, that’s definitely a lineup that would cleanup against most teams going big.

That unit was entirely responsible for that 3rd Q run iirc..hoping they can play more minutes together

[bb22]

No excuses for the raps not taking this one. Especially with klay missing most of the 4th and Curry being average out there.
However, Gasol and Pascal came back down to earth, and Lowry continued to be the non-factor he is the majority of the time on offense.
There’s still a bit chance they pull off an upset if Klay and KD are out, though.

[BayArea408415]

Game 2 was Kawhi putting up 34 and 14 playing against four all nba players and his only other offensive option was Fred Vanvleet, not sure how losing by 5 points is kawhi's fault. Warriors just have the better team even without Durant.

Neither Klay, Green nor Cousins were all NBA this season. Green was terrible during the regular season and only picked it up in the playoffs part way through the Rocket series. Cousins is coming off a quad tear after returning from a serious achilles injury a few months ago. It’s debatable if he’s even at 50-60% of his original self. He played 8 minutes in Game 1 and was impressive in Game 2 but played more like a great passing/rebounding role player big.

The Warriors lost Klay for the 4th quarter. They had Curry miss minutes due to treatment in the 1st half. Iguodala left the game after the Gasol screen and returned later into the 4th. The Raptors had the better team on paper over 4 quarters in this game.

[FlatearthZorro]

Raptors need to pounce on the opportunity, imo. The Warriors are hobbling into game 3. There are no excuses, Durant not playing, Klay even if he plays gonna be a bit hurt. They need to go get it, the Raptors do.

On the other hand, the Warriors adjustment of going big was good(Bogut, Boogie).. They showed why they have been the best b-ball team in basketball for a while now. Good defense, beautiful passing, etc.

[jpengland]

As always, game 3 is pivotal. Do or die for Toronto.

They have the Warriors with a huge injury list which will likely only improve from game 4 onwards, so they absoloutely have to get the win or this may be over in 5.

That 18-0 run from the Warriors just shows quite how sensational they are. When they get in the groove they are unstoppable, regardless of injury

[udfa]

I knew immediately that cousins was going to make an impact this series. Even in game 1, he was finding cutters and just drawing attention. The alternative is Looney, who wouldn’t even be in the rotation for a championship team. He was the difference today IMO. They needed another creator, and someone to draw some attention away from the perimeter guys.

I don’t think Toronto can win a game at GSW. I’d be shocked if they did. GSW might be up 3-1 with KD back heading into a close out game. Toronto needed this one badly.

I agree that Boogie made more of a difference than I thought he could coming back from that torn quad but Looney literally was in the rotation for the dubs championship run last year and has contributed all playoffs so far this year.

I should rephrase - I meant any other team that is not absolutely madly stacked with talent. The Warriors can get away with it, but no other playoff contender is starting Kevon Looney. They honestly could roll out anyone there. They’ve made several guys look good, but Looney wouldn’t be getting meaningful minutes on another team - warriors are paper thin upfront and have the perimeter guys to negate the drop off upfront

I don't understand the argument against Looney. He does so much out there on both ends of the court very well. That's why he's ahead of Jerekbo, Bogut, Bell and Jones in the rotation. That's why Kerr praises him so consistently, and why advanced stats love him so much. It's also why the Warriors were much better in the regular season when Looney played than when Cousins did.

[LipSkinMatter]

Thank you Warriors. Please get healthy and dominate the next 2 at Oracle.

Don't worry HeLeave regardless.

[LipSkinMatter]

The warriors offense went about 5 minutes without even scoring in the 4th quarter, I wouldn't say anybody on their team dominated late in the game either. Kawhi just got no help tonight in that 3rd quarter.

I wouldn’t disagree. The Warriors won the game with their 18-0 run and then trading buckets with the Raptors before going cold and holding on despite multiple turnovers late. It was a 7-8 point game with around 3 minutes left. The Warriors would have won more comfortably if not for Green’s turnover on the reviewed call. It was a 5 point game before that wasted possession with a minute left.

Game 2 was Kawhi putting up 34 and 14 playing against four all nba players and his only other offensive option was Fred Vanvleet, not sure how losing by 5 points is kawhi's fault. Warriors just have the better team even without Durant.

"Four all nba players" yeah because fat boogie is really an all nba caliber player right now

Gasol, Siakam and Lowry (two all stars and a future one) are scrubs now too right?

Klaw was invisible in the 4th. Guess he needed a bail out.

[SweetTouch]

I don’t know how the raptors win another game

They have their best player injured, gasol looks done, and siakam is still injured

[510TWSS]

What defense by the dubz. some bad luck too but the raps went 12 straight posessions without scoring. lost the game right there.

They seem to be selling out to stop the SIakam drive, they'll live with him shooting outside the paint. Guarded him a couple of times with Bogut on defense in the 2nd half.

Cook was amazing in the 3rd, he's been shaky in previous games but really came through after missing his first shot.

Draymond was a beast and so was Cuz, he got by just enough without getting killed on d. Things looking up for the Dubz, potentially over in 5.

[Rednation91]

34 points on 20 FGA while getting double teamed half the game, 14 rebounds including offensive rebounds late in the 4th quarter that were keeping them in the game and he set the finals record for most freethrows without a miss. Siakam\Gasol just played terrible tonight and Lowry was in foul trouble all while playing against 4 allstars. I don't understand how that's a bad game from Leonard, if Siakam even has an average game or Lowry was out of foul trouble they probably win tonight's game.

5 pts in the 4th quarter is unacceptable from him. He choked. And 3 of those points were late fts

He was out in the beginning of the 4th quarter and checked back in when they were down about 10 points, how is that choking. He was all over the rebounds in the 4th quarter, his supporting cast was just choking.

They lost a double digit lead in the 2nd half and he didn't step up in the 4th to take the game. How's that not choking

[floppymoose]

Oh, and it should go without saying that this last loss may really have put the Raptors over a barrel precisely because of KD's looming return.

Klay and Looney are likely gone. Cousins hasn't shown that he can have multiple good games in a row this season. I'm glad GS got this win but I think Curry may need to pull a rabbit out of his hat the rest of the way.