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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1201 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:36 pm

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Would draft Admiral Schofield with the 51st pick just for his name alone.


Is this his military rank or his first name? That's the real question here.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1202 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jun 3, 2019 3:39 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Hmmmm... Celtics or Lakers could send Smart or Ball to the Suns for an extra Lottery Pick in the AD Sweepstakes.


Ball would be a horrendous pick for #6. To me so far nothing proves Ball is an NBA caliber player. Can't shoot, somewhat physically weak, not too fast, shoots FTs like he's DeAndre Jordan.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1204 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:09 pm

Will the Celts nab Ty Jerome at 22? He seems to be moving up, Ainge loves him some combo guard, and he has definite NBA skills...

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2019/5/30/18639879/ty-jerome-2019-nba-draft-scouting-report-atlanta-hawks-virginia

On the positive side, there are traits that make Jerome a potentially tantalizing player at the next level. He stands at 6’5.5 in shoes while operating as a lead guard and, while no one would mistake Jerome for a “pure” point guard prospect, his offensive versatility could be valuable. Beyond that, he is a (very) strong shooter, connecting on 39.9 percent of his three-point attempts as a junior. That number is impressive in any context but Jerome also succeeded on a relatively challenging shot profile, as he was often tasked with being Virginia’s late-clock operator in an offense that moved at a glacial overall pace.

With the ball in his hands, Jerome can be effective, both as a shooter and a passer. He is a high-IQ player by any measure and his passing acumen is quite impressive. Jerome posted a 32.6 percent assist rate during his final college season and, while he may not qualify as an “elite” passer, it is certainly a strength of his game.

Without the ball, Jerome separates from the competition in that he is exceptionally astute at moving and cutting off screens. He manages to fill in gaps by understanding spacing and often takes the time and effort required to set up defenders in an effort to create additional space. That, combined with his ability to shoot off movement, makes Jerome an interesting role player projection at the NBA level.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1205 » by threrf23 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:32 pm

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Maybe I'm over reacting to the one or two games I saw him play. But they put me off from him as much as they impressed me. His scouting capsules don't sell me on him. His statistical rise has vague similarity to that of Adam Morrison - who I mention as an example of how Zaga stats don't necessarily mean much.

The one statistical category which tends to be most revealing of a player's true upside is rebounding, and as with Morrison that's an area where he didn't excel (less than 10 per 40 as a PF playing for Zaga). Of course, his teams rebounded well, so maybe it's an unfair criticism.

But to me he's a tweener type who lacks a natural feel for the game, lacks a great IQ. His potential appeal to me is that - supposedly - he didn't start playing basketball til the age of 14? But that's not when he started playing ball, so much as it's when he started playing organized ball, if I am not mistaken.

(Also, his stats are similar to Ryan Gomes at the same age. Hach as more upside related to athleticism etc, but Gomes was less of a tweener as far as his game was concerned.)
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1206 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:40 pm

Ty Jerome fever catch it...

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Ty Jerome | Virginia | Jr | SG | 6-5 | 194

Show me a smart player with good size for his position who can play either backcourt spot, dribble, pass, shoot and be tough on the defensive end of the court, and I'll show you somebody who will have a long career playing professional basketball. Jerome is such a player. The 6-5 combo guard averaged 13.6 points, 5.5 assists and 4.2 rebounds in 33.9 minutes per game for a Virginia team that won the national title. The success other recent Virginia alums have had in the NBA, combined with the fact that Jerome made 39.2% of the 424 3-pointers he attempted in college, will help him with front offices looking to avoid a mistake.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2019-nba-mock-draft-dukes-rj-barrett-looks-like-a-good-fit-for-the-knicks-at-no-3/
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1207 » by cloverleaf » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:51 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Ty Jerome fever catch it...

20 Celtics

Ty Jerome | Virginia | Jr | SG | 6-5 | 194

Show me a smart player with good size for his position who can play either backcourt spot, dribble, pass, shoot and be tough on the defensive end of the court, and I'll show you somebody who will have a long career playing professional basketball. Jerome is such a player. The 6-5 combo guard averaged 13.6 points, 5.5 assists and 4.2 rebounds in 33.9 minutes per game for a Virginia team that won the national title. The success other recent Virginia alums have had in the NBA, combined with the fact that Jerome made 39.2% of the 424 3-pointers he attempted in college, will help him with front offices looking to avoid a mistake.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2019-nba-mock-draft-dukes-rj-barrett-looks-like-a-good-fit-for-the-knicks-at-no-3/


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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1208 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Jun 3, 2019 5:01 pm

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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1209 » by sully00 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 5:10 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Ty Jerome fever catch it...

20 Celtics

Ty Jerome | Virginia | Jr | SG | 6-5 | 194

Show me a smart player with good size for his position who can play either backcourt spot, dribble, pass, shoot and be tough on the defensive end of the court, and I'll show you somebody who will have a long career playing professional basketball. Jerome is such a player. The 6-5 combo guard averaged 13.6 points, 5.5 assists and 4.2 rebounds in 33.9 minutes per game for a Virginia team that won the national title. The success other recent Virginia alums have had in the NBA, combined with the fact that Jerome made 39.2% of the 424 3-pointers he attempted in college, will help him with front offices looking to avoid a mistake.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2019-nba-mock-draft-dukes-rj-barrett-looks-like-a-good-fit-for-the-knicks-at-no-3/


I like the player and was surprised at how little attention he was getting as a draft prospect. But apparently he is the slowest guard in the ACC. While guys overcome a lack of athleticism it is tough to be a defensive stalwart and lack speed and athleticism. That said I am not that high on any of the options at this point in the draft so rather go with a guy who has done something vs a guy how has done nothing.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1210 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Jun 3, 2019 6:18 pm

Ty Jerome reminds me a little bit of Malcon Brogdon. Wouldn't mind him at 22, although as some of you have pointed out, the athleticism could really well be too much for him and be out of the league after a while.

But the basketball IQ is there.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1211 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Jun 3, 2019 8:58 pm

Im a big fan of Jerome at 20 or 22
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1212 » by Darthlukey » Mon Jun 3, 2019 9:15 pm

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Would draft Admiral Schofield with the 51st pick just for his name alone.


Is this his military rank or his first name? That's the real question here.

You are asking the wrong question, why not both?
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Post#1213 » by Parliament10 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 9:49 pm

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Post#1214 » by Parliament10 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:02 pm

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Post#1215 » by Disinformation » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:04 pm

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Would draft Admiral Schofield with the 51st pick just for his name alone.


Is this his military rank or his first name? That's the real question here.

You are asking the wrong question, why not both?


I've seen guys with names like Captain and Major...it was only a matter of time before we got an Admiral. :lol:
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Post#1216 » by Disinformation » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:05 pm

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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1217 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:19 pm

Oden was on the way to being a dominant defensive player - and he wouldn’t even fit in today’s league, he’d be Charles Bassey..

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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1218 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:32 pm

A healthy Oden would have been Rudy Gobert on steroids.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1219 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:41 pm

Gobert has more mobility - Oden, iirc, had very good anticipation -
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#1220 » by CeltsfaninDC » Mon Jun 3, 2019 10:53 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Ty Jerome reminds me a little bit of Malcon Brogdon. Wouldn't mind him at 22, although as some of you have pointed out, the athleticism could really well be too much for him and be out of the league after a while.

But the basketball IQ is there.


I’m loving the UVa love here. FWIW my son is a current Hoo and sees a bunch of the players around all the time. I just tweeted him a pic of Ty working out for the Celts and he was excited. He told me that he’s a really nice guy as well.

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