2019 NBA Finals Thread #4: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TIED AT 1

[Vlade Divac]

Dude, stop. You’re embarassing yourself.

This Vlade Divac Raptors fan has been embarassment throughout the thread.
He posts images he thinks are bad calls against the Raps, but doesn't have the brain power to think "Hmm, I wonder how many bad calls went against the Warriors?". Or maybe he's just blind, IDK.

Hey ball boy you stand up and answer BUT ONLY when asked.

[Samurai]

Update on Klay? Hopefully he’s out for series

Why would you want anyone to be injured and out for the series? Wouldn't you prefer to see both teams healthy? Let me guess, you are probably hoping Kawhi re-injures his leg and is out for the series as well, right?

[BayArea408415]

Update on Klay? Hopefully he’s out for series

Why would you want anyone to be injured and out for the series? Wouldn't you prefer to see both teams healthy? Let me guess, you are probably hoping Kawhi re-injures his leg and is out for the series as well, right?

Some fans want a championship really bad (at all costs). My cousin's friend from Toronto wants the whole Warriors team injured and replaced by D-League players. He's hoping Klay is out for the series alongside Durant and was upset Iguodala returned for Game 2. He does it half jokingly so it's tolerable but some dudes out there actually want players to have serious injuries.

Read on Twitter

I saw Cousins in a wheel chair on Twitter along with Iguodala. I hope it doesn't mean anything.

[Samurai]

Update on Klay? Hopefully he’s out for series

Why would you want anyone to be injured and out for the series? Wouldn't you prefer to see both teams healthy? Let me guess, you are probably hoping Kawhi re-injures his leg and is out for the series as well, right?

Some fans want a championship really bad (at all costs). My cousin's friend from Toronto wants the whole Warriors team injured and replaced by D-League players. He's hoping Klay is out for the series alongside Durant and was upset Iguodala returned for Game 2. He does it half jokingly so it's tolerable but some dudes out there actually want players to have serious injuries.

I want my team to win as well. But there is something seriously wrong with a person who is wishing other people to be physically injured. Being a decent human being is a higher priority than being a rabid fan. You can root for your team without losing your moral compass.

[dacrusha]

THIS.

The NBA is a multi-billion dollar business that Silver & Co. aren't just going to leave up to good ol' fashioned competition. That includes steering which teams pick in the draft (i.e. Cavs three no. 1 picks in 4 years, AD gifted to Tom Benson for buying/keeping team in NOLA just 2 months prior to the 2012 draft), All-Star Games (NOLA and LA 3 times each in recent years), and yes, having marquee playoff series going 7 games instead of 4 or 5.

Look up former mafia boss Michael Franzese. During his heyday he was involved with sports betting and said that basketball is hands down the easiest sport to control the outcome of. The refs can essentially take key players out of the equation with timely fouls or let them slide with no-calls. Then, albeit with comparatively lesser frequency, players can point shave. There have been a number of NBA games I've seen in the last 5 years where I've wondered if certain players or teams have been paid to lay down so a series can be extended.

Tony Brothers, Scott Foster, Ken Mauer, Sean Corbin, and Ed Malloy are the league's ref goon squad. When they're on the court, you know the game is fixed.

That first part is tin foil hat stuff. Maybe the first lotto where they grabbed envelopes, but the modern draft lotto can't be faked.

The second part, yeah, i've believed that in the past is true, and I have evidence that it can't be true still.

It's naive to believe that a business won't control any factor it can to increase revenue. The NBA is not letting ping pong balls (aka "chance") decide which players are drafted to which teams, therefore potentially impacting franchise valuations, TV deals, sponsorships in the millions and billions. Everyone accepts reality at their own pace, I suppose.

Yeah, the league dictating to the refs to keep the Raptors out of the finals to insulate them from the enormous revenue drop off and ratings collapse is sound evidence of your theory.

Also, Raptors are on a three game winning streak with Brothers reffing. Again, more evidence to support your tin foil theories.

[whatisacenter]

Update on Klay? Hopefully he’s out for series

and you can run naked backwards through a field of dicks.

[zshawn10]

[L2M Report] Curry traveled on final play. Should have been Raptors ball

also:

Q4 00:44.5 Turnover: Traveling Pascal Siakam

Q4 00:36.8 Turnover: Traveling Kawhi Leonard

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0041800402

[whatisacenter]

[L2M Report] Curry traveled on final play. Should have been Raptors ball

also:

Q4 00:44.5 Turnover: Traveling Pascal Siakam

Q4 00:36.8 Turnover: Traveling Kawhi Leonard

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0041800402

also: that ball touched Gasol last and they overturned the call on the court.

also: Danny Green bumped Klay from behind when he was in the air on the three point shot where he was injured.

Not calling you out but just wanted to add a couple of nuggets for all the bitter fans who will cry over the last 2 minute report.

[Danny1616]

Raps have to take advantage of all the warriors injuries! They have an unbelievable chance here, they simply cannot blow it...

If GS is at full strength it is almost imposible to beat them in a series...but now stars are aligning for Raps to take the title...

They still have the core of their 73 win team and just got Cousins back, lol.

That a fair team?

Well no more Barnes and Bogut, Livingston, Iggy are old now. No more Barbosa/Festus/Speights. Just saying GSW depth is nothing compared to the beginning of GSW, those teams were ridiculous and 10 deep.

Depth is gone, but depth isn't as important in the playoffs.

I'm taking a healthy Cousins over Barbosa, Festus and Speights, LMAO.

[000078ude54]

Yeah, the league dictating to the refs to keep the Raptors out of the finals to insulate them from the enormous revenue drop off and ratings collapse is sound evidence of your theory.

Also, Raptors are on a three game winning streak with Brothers reffing. Again, more evidence to support your tin foil theories.

Why would the Raptors being in the finals cause an "enormous revenue drop off and rating collapse?"

And what does Tony Brothers reffing have to do with a Raptors winning streak? The finals is tied 1-1 and heading for 7.

Keep living in a dream. Let the rest of us on earth know how things are going.

[6ixSideSniper]

Here you go:

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Clearly contact. Funny thing is i found this on the Raptors board.

Guess who’s biased ?

LOOOOOOL

Where do you see contact there? Wait, did you take off your yellow and blue sunglasses to see better?

This is insane -- like the study where Trump voters looked at photos of inauguration crowds and said that Trump's had more people than Obama's. This is video of Danny Green bumping Klay. You're seeing it with your own eyes.

Dude I just watched it and zoomed in and you literally can’t see any contact at all. I’m not sure what people are seeing. I even went in frame by frame on Twitter.

Any non-Raptors/non-Warriors fan want to chime in?

[Samurai]

[L2M Report] Curry traveled on final play. Should have been Raptors ball

also:

Q4 00:44.5 Turnover: Traveling Pascal Siakam

Q4 00:36.8 Turnover: Traveling Kawhi Leonard

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0041800402

also: that ball touched Gasol last and they overturned the call on the court.

also: Danny Green bumped Klay from behind when he was in the air on the three point shot where he was injured.

Not calling you out but just wanted to add a couple of nuggets for all the bitter fans who will cry over the last 2 minute report.

The Green foul on Klay (the play where Klay was injured) happened with about 10 minutes to play, so it wouldn't be in the L2M report.

But if either travel was called on Siakam (00:44.5) or Kawhi (00:36.8) as noted in the report, it would have negated the Green 3-pointer (00:26.9) that took place in that possession. Making Curry's non-call on his travel irrelevant.

[whatisacenter]

LOOOOOOL

Where do you see contact there? Wait, did you take off your yellow and blue sunglasses to see better?

This is insane -- like the study where Trump voters looked at photos of inauguration crowds and said that Trump's had more people than Obama's. This is video of Danny Green bumping Klay. You're seeing it with your own eyes.

Dude I just watched it and zoomed in and you literally can’t see any contact at all. I’m not sure what people are seeing. I even went in frame by frame on Twitter.

Any non-Raptors/non-Warriors fan want to chime in?

the right side of Danny Green's body hits Klay in the backside while he is in the air. You can see Klay's body bump forward causing his legs to spread to regain balance. That's what I see anyway and the announcers say, "Klay Thompson gets knocked down" in the audio.

[000078ude54]

Hilarious stuff man. So if they go to big markets its rigged because that's what they want, if they go elsewhere it's rigged to avoid the allusion of rigging and to prop up small markets. So no matter what it's rigged. Basically that's my whole point, folks with a preconceived notion it's rigged will find a story to support it. Why do you even watch? Might as well watch wrestling where at least they admit it's rigged.

Seriously, look into how it's done now with the reporters in the room and let me know how they're rigging it. There's no way, there's tons of witnesses to it all.

You got it. The lottery picks are deliberately steered. Conversely, folks who put their trust in a self-interested, multi-billion dollar entity will rationalize to support their claims.

What seems more true to you: a multi-billion dollar entity that deliberately maximizes its product for its stakeholders, or a multi-billion dollar entity that allows ping pong balls and "odds" to determine things?

If you ran a business, would you protect your profitability and livelihood by marketing your products, or just hope word of mouth grows your business? If anyone needs to "look into" something, it's you looking into common sense.

Most true to me would be that a multi billion business that is raking in billions upon billions of dollars (with no end in sight) would risk such a colossal scandal that would question the integrity of the league. A conspiracy that would require dozens of conspirators (yet none have leaked anything). Moreover, this is a business with 30 separate partners so I would not run my business by willingly screwing certain partners for the sake of others while risking a scandal the whole time. On top of that, all 30 partners should logically be invested to have this be legit to protect themselves and their interests. You're essentially arguing that these owners are willingly allowing this to happen against their own best financial interests. Or if they're not in on it, that if they uncovered it could then sue the league for billions.

Once again, I'm confident you have not read up at all on the current lottery process and the transparency involved. Come off the ledge and take 10 minutes to read up on it. or not, I'm sure it's more fun to live in fantasy land.

False premise. Why would a business that sets its own rules and acts in its own best interest according to those rules be a scandal? They can do anything they want with their product as long as it doesn't break local or federal law. You're also assuming what owners know and how they participate. I notice that you can't answer what I've written and instead attempt to red herring the argument. This is a common tactic of the dimly lit.

Move on and stop hijacking the thread with inanity.

[6ixSideSniper]

This is insane -- like the study where Trump voters looked at photos of inauguration crowds and said that Trump's had more people than Obama's. This is video of Danny Green bumping Klay. You're seeing it with your own eyes.

Dude I just watched it and zoomed in and you literally can’t see any contact at all. I’m not sure what people are seeing. I even went in frame by frame on Twitter.

Any non-Raptors/non-Warriors fan want to chime in?

the right side of Danny Green's body hits Klay in the backside while he is in the air. You can see Klay's body bump forward causing his legs to spread to regain balance. That's what I see anyway and the announcers say, "Klay Thompson gets knocked down" in the audio.

I honestly never even noticed that, I was watching and watching again looking at Green and Klays foot.

I see the bump by Green now, he jumped and bumped Klays booty abit.

[Froob]

I think it’ll be 2-2 heading back north. I don’t know why people are so down on the Raps after that game. Warriors just barely got by. The Warriors have to play better to win this series.

[whatisacenter]

Dude I just watched it and zoomed in and you literally can’t see any contact at all. I’m not sure what people are seeing. I even went in frame by frame on Twitter.

Any non-Raptors/non-Warriors fan want to chime in?

the right side of Danny Green's body hits Klay in the backside while he is in the air. You can see Klay's body bump forward causing his legs to spread to regain balance. That's what I see anyway and the announcers say, "Klay Thompson gets knocked down" in the audio.

I honestly never even noticed that, I was watching and watching again looking at Green and Klays foot.

I see the bump by Green now, he jumped and bumped Klays booty abit.

yeah, I don't even think Green intentionally bumped him and I can see how the ref missed it with how he was positioned behind the play but I just don't like the TV crew selling some bs that Klay hurt himself flopping.

[Vlade Divac]

LOOOOOOL

Where do you see contact there? Wait, did you take off your yellow and blue sunglasses to see better?

This is insane -- like the study where Trump voters looked at photos of inauguration crowds and said that Trump's had more people than Obama's. This is video of Danny Green bumping Klay. You're seeing it with your own eyes.

Dude I just watched it and zoomed in and you literally can’t see any contact at all. I’m not sure what people are seeing. I even went in frame by frame on Twitter.

Any non-Raptors/non-Warriors fan want to chime in?

Just look at the gifs I posted above, it as a foul first cause Klay pushed Danny to run behind the screen and after that clearly no contact whatsoever. Clear as a day.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

This is insane -- like the study where Trump voters looked at photos of inauguration crowds and said that Trump's had more people than Obama's. This is video of Danny Green bumping Klay. You're seeing it with your own eyes.

Dude I just watched it and zoomed in and you literally can’t see any contact at all. I’m not sure what people are seeing. I even went in frame by frame on Twitter.

Any non-Raptors/non-Warriors fan want to chime in?

the right side of Danny Green's body hits Klay in the backside while he is in the air. You can see Klay's body bump forward causing his legs to spread to regain balance. That's what I see anyway and the announcers say, "Klay Thompson gets knocked down" in the audio.

they showed another angle during the broadcast. there was no contact there. klay injured himself trying to draw contact. bunch of floppers on this team.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

[L2M Report] Curry traveled on final play. Should have been Raptors ball

also:

Q4 00:44.5 Turnover: Traveling Pascal Siakam

Q4 00:36.8 Turnover: Traveling Kawhi Leonard

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0041800402

L2M report irrelevant. game rigged in the first half.