2019 NBA Finals Thread #4: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TIED AT 1

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Who will win the series?

Golden State in 5
28
13%
Golden State in 6
71
32%
Golden State in 7
8
4%
Toronto in 5
37
17%
Toronto in 6
32
15%
Toronto in 7
44
20%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Finals Thread #4: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TIED AT 1 

Post#481 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Mon Jun 3, 2019 11:42 pm

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TheGOATWill wrote:Kawhi drives. Goes up to shoot. Stripped clean by Cousins. Boogie called for a foul. Curry blindly flings ball in the air that lands at the feet of Scott Foster. Technical foul. Was that also disgraceful?


Plus, in important 4th quarter plays, Kawhi drops his shoulder into Draymond, then travels. Gets the shot and one. Please stop with the refs favoring the Warriors. I forget how annoying I must be complaining about the refs going the other way until I read the Raptors complaining after watching the same game. Selective anecdotes.

Not to mention Raptors went to the line 26 vs Warriors 22, and Lowry fouled out b/c he's not the brightest crayon in the box. 5 fouls and you risk the 6th by slapping Cousins when he's twice your size? :roll:

Personally thought that the Raps have received huge favorable no calls of defense both games, especially in the 1st half. Cant see how Raps can complain. That 4th Q was nonstop help, including an incredible tech, a foul on Curry to steal, followed by Van tripping on his own feet a loose ball call on Curry.

I promised my wife to not complain about it though. I saw this as a double digit blowout without all the favorable interpretations. The post above reminds me of the Rockets video....I cant see how Raps can blame the refs for all their missed shots. They got every kind of help, including a jump ball violation, which almost never happens. An overturned out of bounds that wasnt unquestionably wrong by any means (looked like ball changed rotation as it brushed Gasols arm). Curry getting 'physical' defense almost every possession, multiple times, Siaka & Gasol pushing dubs to ground and out of bounds on rebounds. I could make 20 examples, if I wanted to go there.

It is my resolution to make this my last post ever about refs. It is entertainment and the league often instructs the refs in a way that can help or hurt team chances. Part of the game, I guess. Clearly the instructiins include the ABC team, which seem to be seeing a different reality (and hate GS with a passion, never bothering to hide it most the time). Hit your shots and it doesnt matter is the way i plan to go from now on.

lol even bill simmons called out the refs in his podcast for their favorable whistle for the warriors and he's hardly a homer.
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Post#482 » by JoeBarryCaroll » Mon Jun 3, 2019 11:44 pm

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Samurai wrote:Why would you want anyone to be injured and out for the series? Wouldn't you prefer to see both teams healthy? Let me guess, you are probably hoping Kawhi re-injures his leg and is out for the series as well, right?

Some fans want a championship really bad (at all costs). My cousin's friend from Toronto wants the whole Warriors team injured and replaced by D-League players. He's hoping Klay is out for the series alongside Durant and was upset Iguodala returned for Game 2. He does it half jokingly so it's tolerable but some dudes out there actually want players to have serious injuries. :nonono:

I want my team to win as well. But there is something seriously wrong with a person who is wishing other people to be physically injured. Being a decent human being is a higher priority than being a rabid fan. You can root for your team without losing your moral compass.


I'm sure if your honest you know more than a few GS fans back in 2015 who were quite happy when both Love and Kyrie got hurt missed the finals and you won the championship in 6 games. When a franchise or a whole city goes decades without winning a championship they just want their win, they're not picky about how they get it.
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Post#483 » by King4Day » Mon Jun 3, 2019 11:46 pm

Is there a reason there hasn't been an update on Klay?

You figure we'd know by now. Makes me wonder if the Warriors know he'll be out a game or longer and want to wait until the last possible minute in order to not give the Raps more time to gameplan without him.
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Post#484 » by Samurai » Mon Jun 3, 2019 11:53 pm

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BayArea408415 wrote:Some fans want a championship really bad (at all costs). My cousin's friend from Toronto wants the whole Warriors team injured and replaced by D-League players. He's hoping Klay is out for the series alongside Durant and was upset Iguodala returned for Game 2. He does it half jokingly so it's tolerable but some dudes out there actually want players to have serious injuries. :nonono:

I want my team to win as well. But there is something seriously wrong with a person who is wishing other people to be physically injured. Being a decent human being is a higher priority than being a rabid fan. You can root for your team without losing your moral compass.


I'm sure if your honest you know more than a few GS fans back in 2015 who were quite happy when both Love and Kyrie got hurt missed the finals and you won the championship in 6 games. When a franchise or a whole city goes decades without winning a championship they just want their win, they're not picky about how they get it.

I am being honest; not sure why you think I am being dishonest. You don't have to remind me about going decades without winning - when the Dubs won in 2015 as you referenced, it had been 40 years since our last title. And that includes the dark years with your namesake playing for us (we called him Joe Barely Cares). Wanting to win is not an excuse to be a bad human being. I am not rooting for Kawhi to get hurt and miss the rest of the series. I want both teams to be healthy and play....and then I want my team to win!

And since you didn't read my post very carefully since you made assumptions about my honesty, I did not post anything about the 2015 series at all.
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Post#485 » by BayWarrior » Mon Jun 3, 2019 11:55 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Is there a reason there hasn't been an update on Klay?

You figure we'd know by now. Makes me wonder if the Warriors know he'll be out a game or longer and want to wait until the last possible minute in order to not give the Raps more time to gameplan without him.

No it has to be the Refs idea.
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Post#486 » by JoeBarryCaroll » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:02 am

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Samurai wrote:I want my team to win as well. But there is something seriously wrong with a person who is wishing other people to be physically injured. Being a decent human being is a higher priority than being a rabid fan. You can root for your team without losing your moral compass.


I'm sure if your honest you know more than a few GS fans back in 2015 who were quite happy when both Love and Kyrie got hurt missed the finals and you won the championship in 6 games. When a franchise or a whole city goes decades without winning a championship they just want their win, they're not picky about how they get it.

I am being honest; not sure why you think I am being dishonest. You don't have to remind me about going decades without winning - when the Dubs won in 2015 as you referenced, it had been 40 years since our last title. And that includes the dark years with your namesake playing for us (we called him Joe Barely Cares). Wanting to win is not an excuse to be a bad human being. I am not rooting for Kawhi to get hurt and miss the rest of the series. I want both teams to be healthy and play....and then I want my team to win!

And since you didn't read my post very carefully since you made assumptions about my honesty, I did not post anything about the 2015 series at all.


I don't think there are many fans who want to see an opposing player get seriously hurt (except for maybe Draymond Green :) ). However, if you ask most fans if they would rather lose the series or win with the opposing team enduring some injuries like pulled hamstrings and tweaked Achilles tendons I think 90+% would say that they would take the win and opposing team's injuries.

Maybe you are the exception to the rule...
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Post#487 » by PseudoFan » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:06 am

Can we all just agree this is going to be one hell of a series and may go down as one of the best in recent memory?

If we are fortunate enough to make it to a game 7 in Toronto, it will undoubtedly be one of the craziest scenes ever witnessed in sports history.
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Post#488 » by durden_tyler » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:17 am

PseudoFan wrote:Can we all just agree this is going to be one hell of a series and may go down as one of the best in recent memory?

If we are fortunate enough to make it to a game 7 in Toronto, it will undoubtedly be one of the craziest scenes ever witnessed in sports history.


No. With a backdoor sweep very much a possibility, on court, this will be remembered as one of those hyped but actually one-sided series. Toronto/Cananda being there makes it special of course, but not much different from other NBA Finals when one team dominated because of they were simply better than the opposition.
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Post#489 » by BayArea408415 » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:34 am

JoeBarryCaroll wrote:
I'm sure if your honest you know more than a few GS fans back in 2015 who were quite happy when both Love and Kyrie got hurt missed the finals and you won the championship in 6 games. When a franchise or a whole city goes decades without winning a championship they just want their win, they're not picky about how they get it.


Fair enough. I'm sure you'll find some fans of any team that wouldn't be upset to see their opponents get injuries if it meant they win their 1st championship in their lifetime or after decades of not winning as you noted. Though, that's still not anywhere as bad as actively wishing injuries to the opposing team though.
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Post#490 » by DirtybirdGA » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:35 am

Finals participants as throwback players. Lol

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Post#491 » by PseudoFan » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:39 am

durden_tyler wrote:
PseudoFan wrote:Can we all just agree this is going to be one hell of a series and may go down as one of the best in recent memory?

If we are fortunate enough to make it to a game 7 in Toronto, it will undoubtedly be one of the craziest scenes ever witnessed in sports history.


No. With a backdoor sweep very much a possibility, on court, this will be remembered as one of those hyped but actually one-sided series. Toronto/Cananda being there makes it special of course, but not much different from other NBA Finals when one team dominated because of they were simply better than the opposition.


Underestimate us at your own peril, we're used to it. If you think this team is just going to just lay down and roll over, clearly you haven't been paying attention. I can guarantee you we're coming back home at least 2-2.

Dominated? Lol, outside of that 18-0 run, who's been dominating who?
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Post#492 » by durden_tyler » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:48 am

PseudoFan wrote:
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PseudoFan wrote:Can we all just agree this is going to be one hell of a series and may go down as one of the best in recent memory?

If we are fortunate enough to make it to a game 7 in Toronto, it will undoubtedly be one of the craziest scenes ever witnessed in sports history.


No. With a backdoor sweep very much a possibility, on court, this will be remembered as one of those hyped but actually one-sided series. Toronto/Cananda being there makes it special of course, but not much different from other NBA Finals when one team dominated because of they were simply better than the opposition.


Underestimate us at your own peril, we're used to it. If you think this team is just going to just lay down and roll over, clearly you haven't been paying attention. I can guarantee you we're coming back home at least 2-2.

Dominated? Lol, outside of that 18-0 run, who's been dominating who?


Corrected. About to dominate, that 18-0 run is a sign of the things to come. Depends on which Warriors show up (couldn't care less if Durant will come back or not), yeah you might get that Game 5 win too. (i think Golden State relaxes after winning both Games 3 and 4 and carry a 3-1 lead).
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Post#493 » by inquisitive » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:48 am

we only know for sure about the goal tend, but otherwise, both teams had bad/non calls both ways.

honestly, i thought the warriors would run away after going on that 20-0 run, but the raptors did have some fight left.
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Post#494 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:04 am

DirtybirdGA wrote:Finals participants as throwback players. Lol


OH SHHHHTTT :lol:
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Post#495 » by PseudoFan » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:04 am

durden_tyler wrote:
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No. With a backdoor sweep very much a possibility, on court, this will be remembered as one of those hyped but actually one-sided series. Toronto/Cananda being there makes it special of course, but not much different from other NBA Finals when one team dominated because of they were simply better than the opposition.


Underestimate us at your own peril, we're used to it. If you think this team is just going to just lay down and roll over, clearly you haven't been paying attention. I can guarantee you we're coming back home at least 2-2.

Dominated? Lol, outside of that 18-0 run, who's been dominating who?


Corrected. About to dominate, that 18-0 run is a sign of the things to come. Depends on which Warriors show up (couldn't care less if Durant will come back or not), yeah you might get that Game 5 win too. (i think Golden State relaxes after winning both Games 3 and 4 and carry a 3-1 lead).


Well if that run is a sign of things to come, make sure you don't forget to mention the 10-0 run in the final 5 minutes of the game, when Raptors defense held the Warriors scoreless prior to Igoudala's 3. Kawhi was also an inch away from stealing the ball during that final scramble as well.

Like I said, underestimate us at your own peril. One of us will be back soon to eat crow.
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Post#496 » by Demari » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:07 am

i'm not worried
raps lost this g2 on purpose only so they could dismantle GS in g3 and g4 and win the championship at home in g5 like it should be done aka the wasteman sweep
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Post#497 » by cpower » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:31 am

[L2M Report] Four incorrect calls, 3 favor the Raps, but raptor fans still complained about officiating...smh
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Post#498 » by inquisitive » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:35 am

DarkHawk wrote:Is there a reason there hasn't been an update on Klay?

You figure we'd know by now. Makes me wonder if the Warriors know he'll be out a game or longer and want to wait until the last possible minute in order to not give the Raps more time to gameplan without him.


He's fine. You can bet he will be ready Wednesday.
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Post#499 » by Demari » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:37 am

cpower wrote:[L2M Report] Four incorrect calls, 3 favor the Raps, but raptor fans still complained about officiating...smh


its NOT about the total number of fouls it's about the TIMING of them and you KNOW THIS!!! YOU KNOW THIS!!!!!
THEY TOOK FOULED US UP HAPHAZARDLY IN THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS WITH NO REMORSE. WE COULDNT PLAY DEFENSE IN THE SECOND HALF BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS ABOUT TO BE FOULED OUT!! HOW DO YOU NOT REALIZE THIS?!?!?! IS FIFTEEN FOULS IN THE FIRST HALF THE SAME AS FIFTEEN FOULS IN THE SECOND HALF TO YOU?!?!?!
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Post#500 » by Appwrangler » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:53 am

I have heard about Raptors fans before but I’ve never really paid that much attention until this series. Holy cow what whining crybabies!

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