Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019

[K For Three]

Unless you sign and trade Kyrie to NY.

This also is not an option.

Technically possible.
Conley is $30.52 => min outgoing $24.3M
Kyrie outgoing as $20M. Add Yabu & Semi and you get to $24.87M.

3 team with NY to absorb Kyrie into cap space / send DSJ to MEM. Seems like there could be a basis.

Why you wouldn't just roll with Terry, I dunno...

Damn, someone is getting good at trade scenarios.

[Edug27]

Can you name som specific things he’s gotten right?

Probably nothing major, or worth noting. It’s just one of those things that you just go with it.. makes the off season more interesting I guess.

Comments like this are the reason people with incredible, usually accurate insider information like BfB left this forum without even saying goodbye, do what you want to do, I'm just saying...

You questioned Keith pretty heavily too.

Keith **** made it man. Like, less than a year later. You were 100 % wrong.

Just like you are here.

Questioned Keith? Don’t recall. But I only question accuracy, not your grind. I mean, A Sherrod Blakely made it.. and we all question his stuff.. no?

[truth18]

Probably nothing major, or worth noting. It’s just one of those things that you just go with it.. makes the off season more interesting I guess.

Comments like this are the reason people with incredible, usually accurate insider information like BfB left this forum, do what you want to do, I'm just saying...

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

But you are empirically incorrect. Cave told me/us about Durant to GS way before the media had mentioned it once or it was even some BS notion on the trade/CBA board. That's just one example.

And you haven't been around here that much since GS blew up. Which is fine/not an issue, but let's tell it how it is.

You can just ignore this stuff instead of potentially alienating posters that have no reason to share potentially accurate info, but you always comment on it.

[djFan71]

This also is not an option.

Technically possible.
Conley is $30.52 => min outgoing $24.3M
Kyrie outgoing as $20M. Add Yabu & Semi and you get to $24.87M.

3 team with NY to absorb Kyrie into cap space / send DSJ to MEM. Seems like there could be a basis.

Why you wouldn't just roll with Terry, I dunno...

Damn, someone is getting good at trade scenarios.

Cripes, I better be by now with how much time I waste on them.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Probably nothing major, or worth noting. It’s just one of those things that you just go with it.. makes the off season more interesting I guess.

Comments like this are the reason people with incredible, usually accurate insider information like BfB left this forum, do what you want to do, I'm just saying...

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

Ive been around for a while and there are just some folks who just like to be contrarian because they like to get a rise out of people.

[K For Three]

Comments like this are the reason people with incredible, usually accurate insider information like BfB left this forum, do what you want to do, I'm just saying...

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

But you are empirically incorrect. Cave told me/us about Durant to GS way before the media had mentioned it once or it was even some BS notion on the trade/CBA board. That's just one example.

And you haven't been around here that much since GS blew up. Which is fine/not an issue, but let's tell it how it is.

You can just ignore this stuff instead of potentially alienating posters that have no reason to share potentially accurate info, but you always comment on it.

If KD ends up on the Knicks then Cave's intel with KD is almost frightening.

[Ring7Banner18]

My guess would be Jrue Holiday. He’s 2.75 years younger than Conley. A slightly better contract than Conley. Better defense than Conley. IMO A better fit with brown and Tatum than Conley. And there’s obviously the relationship between Griffin and Ainge.

The “lots of maneuvering” reload refers to would likely have to involve Hayward. Per Bulpett’s article today + other indications, it looks like we want to extend Horford (4 years/$80M is my guess). I could see a trade with the Hornets built around something like Hayward and a 2nd for Biz Biyombo, Marvin Williams, pick #12.

Flip Biyombo, Yabusele, Rob Williams, 12, 22 for Jrue Holiday

Holiday, Brown, Tatum, Horford, Baynes
Smart, Marvin Williams, Theis, Ojeyle, 14, 20

[CelticFaninLBC]

Unless you sign and trade Kyrie to NY.

This also is not an option.

Technically possible.
Conley is $30.52 => min outgoing $24.3M
Kyrie outgoing as $20M. Add Yabu & Semi and you get to $24.87M.

3 team with NY to absorb Kyrie into cap space / send DSJ to MEM. Seems like there could be a basis.

Why you wouldn't just roll with Terry, I dunno...

Not sure why NYK would send out DSJ, but can see a deal excluding DSJ, if Boston gives Memphis their pick back, and absorbs Conley's deal.

[Edug27]

Comments like this are the reason people with incredible, usually accurate insider information like BfB left this forum, do what you want to do, I'm just saying...

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

But you are empirically incorrect. Cave told me/us about Durant to GS way before the media had mentioned it once or it was even some BS notion on the trade/CBA board. That's just one example.

And you haven't been around here that much since GS blew up. Which is fine/not an issue, but let's tell it how it is.

You can just ignore this stuff instead of potentially alienating posters that have no reason to share potentially accurate info, but you always comment on it.

I haven’t been around much since GS blew up? Confused by that.

And curious to know when Cave told y’all about KD to GS? Because those rumors were around for awhile. I mean, Klays pops pretty let it be known the year before.

But regardless, I was just giving my opinion to a question asked. My bad if it offended you. I like all the insider talk. It’s fun.

[Edug27]

Comments like this are the reason people with incredible, usually accurate insider information like BfB left this forum, do what you want to do, I'm just saying...

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

Ive been around for a while and there are just some folks who just like to be contrarian because they like to get a rise out of people.

+1.

[SmartWentCrazy]

How reliable is reload? Can someone lmk any news he’s broken before? Fairly new here and would like to know

Dude has only had one miss on here (and many, many hits) and I know he is credible on a personal level as well.

Can you name som specific things he’s gotten right?

Updates on Horford with concussions/near concussions. Updates on Kyrie being out for the year last year. 10 day signings. Tidbits on Jabari Bird that Bulpett later reported.

Hes as legit as it gets. Hes not perfect, but thats only because situations are fluid in the NBA and things change quickly

[djFan71]

This also is not an option.

Technically possible.
Conley is $30.52 => min outgoing $24.3M
Kyrie outgoing as $20M. Add Yabu & Semi and you get to $24.87M.

3 team with NY to absorb Kyrie into cap space / send DSJ to MEM. Seems like there could be a basis.

Why you wouldn't just roll with Terry, I dunno...

Not sure why NYK would send out DSJ, but can see a deal excluding DSJ, if Boston gives Memphis their pick back, and absorbs Conley's deal.

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

[Feed Your Head]

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

Ive been around for a while and there are just some folks who just like to be contrarian because they like to get a rise out of people.

+1.

[truth18]

Technically possible.
Conley is $30.52 => min outgoing $24.3M
Kyrie outgoing as $20M. Add Yabu & Semi and you get to $24.87M.

3 team with NY to absorb Kyrie into cap space / send DSJ to MEM. Seems like there could be a basis.

Why you wouldn't just roll with Terry, I dunno...

Damn, someone is getting good at trade scenarios.

Cripes, I better be by now with how much time I waste on them.

On that note: I'm sorry I didn't get back to you on that trade stuff the other night, man. My cat passed away recently, **** has been weird.

Eh, I’ve been around for awhile, and from my experience, those folks with insider info usually aren’t any more accurate or insightful than we are with our own educated guesses. But with that said, their vague tidbits and cryptic posts definitely make the offseason way more interesting so I do appreciate all of them. I remember last summer (or the summer before, can’t recall) the offseason thread was bananas.. then it would die down, and an insider would post something vague like “....only a matter of time” and boom, 80 pages in an hour. Good times.

Ive been around for a while and there are just some folks who just like to be contrarian because they like to get a rise out of people.

+1.

Oof. Pierce-level read of that joke, wow.

[Curmudgeon]

It's most likely Rubio, with Hayward going back to Utah. You heard it here first, and you do not have to be an insider to figure it out.
Mike Conley is also a possibility, but why would the Grizz want Hayward? They are in complete rebuild mode.

Utah may not think Hayward can return to pre-injury form, but even at his current level he's better than Joe Ingles or Jae Crowder, and the fans would welcome him back with open arms. And it's better than losing Rubio for nothing.

[Edug27]

Oof. Pierce-level read of that joke, wow.

Na. I caught it homie. Rather than debating it, just agreed. Because, I actually do agree with the statement in general.

[MagicBagley18]

It's most likely Rubio, with Hayward going back to Utah. You heard it here first, and you do not have to be an insider to figure it out.
Mike Conley is also a possibility, but why would the Grizz want Hayward? They are in complete rebuild mode.

Utah may not think Hayward can return to pre-injury form, but even at his current level he's better than Joe Ingles or Jae Crowder, and the fans would welcome him back with open arms. And it's better than losing Rubio for nothing.

Rubio is a free agent and he sucks

[Feed Your Head]

It's most likely Rubio, with Hayward going back to Utah. You heard it here first, and you do not have to be an insider to figure it out.
Mike Conley is also a possibility, but why would the Grizz want Hayward? They are in complete rebuild mode.

Utah may not think Hayward can return to pre-injury form, but even at his current level he's better than Joe Ingles or Jae Crowder, and the fans would welcome him back with open arms. And it's better than losing Rubio for nothing.

Rubio is a free agent and he sucks

But....you heard it here first!

[CelticFaninLBC]

Technically possible.
Conley is $30.52 => min outgoing $24.3M
Kyrie outgoing as $20M. Add Yabu & Semi and you get to $24.87M.

3 team with NY to absorb Kyrie into cap space / send DSJ to MEM. Seems like there could be a basis.

Why you wouldn't just roll with Terry, I dunno...

Not sure why NYK would send out DSJ, but can see a deal excluding DSJ, if Boston gives Memphis their pick back, and absorbs Conley's deal.

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

[celticfan42487]

Not sure why NYK would send out DSJ, but can see a deal excluding DSJ, if Boston gives Memphis their pick back, and absorbs Conley's deal.

Definitely needs sweeteners to level it out, I was doing mainly salary. Knicks depending on other transactions occurring (AD, KD) either need to keep salary (for AD) or shed a little (to give KD & Kyrie full maxes). Sending out DSJ for room to fully max KD & Kyrie and maybe getting a late first for future trades is a pretty good deal for the Knicks.

I don't wanna give MEM their pick back - Conley probably doesn't pull that. But the rest are up for grabs.

If they're dealing for Conley, I suspect they're dealing for AD too. Seems they won't have a whole lot to offer MEM, as they won't want Horford, Hayward or a Morris S&T, and AD probably costs Tatum, Smart, 14, 22 and Williams.

Thank you for brining it back to basketball.

Yeah if we're searching for an overpaid old PG from the West that tells me Ainge is thinking at least 2 things.

1) Irving is **** and not coming back

2) The young kids are not alright, I'd rather have a 1 year run with a vet PG and AD and singing some ring chasers.