2019 Brewers Trades/News - Yelich Avoids Surgery; Out 8-10 Weeks

[Kerb Hohl]

I get why they're doing it for a handful of reasons but still sucks.

1. I don't think Hiura is going to make a huge difference against the Marlins and Pirates (I will await the, "if we lose the division by 2 games..." reply). And yes, I know that Hiura just made the difference against the Pirates on Saturday.
2. They have some strange reason for not wanting to option Shaw.
3. I get wanting to hold on to Thames, Shaw, Aguilar. A more ruthless organization probably realizes it can get one of those guys for pennies on the dollar at the deadline near the end of the year, but they want to have their pick of which of them to keep next year.

[ReasonablySober]

Marlins have had an easy schedule but they've still won 11 of 16.

This **** sucks.

[Kerb Hohl]

I'm indifferent on it.

I am guessing that 90% of people that care to comment will have the statement, "yarg, Shaw...he sucks! Just cut him!" Well, that's not how baseball works, generally. If this was the case, we'd have already cut Chase Anderson, Davies, maybe Knebel, and countless others.

The one thing I don't get is if Shaw truly has an option, just use it. But they seem to be professionally tied to Shaw in some way. That, or they just want to manipulate service time when they feel they don't really need Hiura.

[DanoMac]

So **** dumb

[Kerb Hohl]

My next guess is that maybe they fake an injury to bring him back for the Houston series and then he just stays up.

Anyways, I'm not going to kid myself that I wouldn't take him over Shaw, but Hiura did strike out a lot and I think Shaw can still turn it around. I'll have a real problem with this if Shaw continues to struggle and Hiura isn't back in a few weeks.

[LonghornBuck]

My next guess is that maybe they fake an injury to bring him back for the Houston series and then he just stays up.

Anyways, I'm not going to kid myself that I wouldn't take him over Shaw, but Hiura did strike out a lot and I think Shaw can still turn it around. I'll have a real problem with this if Shaw continues to struggle and Hiura isn't back in a few weeks.

Totally. Hiura didn't look perfect but he's a major league player right now. The team has been pretty good at making changes quickly if something isn't working, so I've got faith that Hiura will be back up if Shaw doesn't get back to producing like he's capable of.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Shaw best hit quick because I'd give it about 3 plate appearances before he starts getting boo'd if he's not hitting.

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[humanrefutation]

Bummer. He's too good to be in AAA.

[tski1972]

I guess thats why Stearns is the GM and we're just people who post on RealGM.

[HaroldinGMinor]

My guess is this has everything to do with preserving Shaw's option. If he hits well enough the next month that will add value should the Brewers want to trade him...of course they may need him next year to play 3rd so who knows.

[MickeyDavis]

I get the "you don't lose your job because of injury" but Shaw wasn't really injured. And he sucked in AAA.

[bizarro]

UGH! Eagerly awaiting the Shaw and Aguilar choke jobs upcoming.

[Kerb Hohl]

The Venn diagram of people who are dead set on just cutting bait with Shaw or Aguilar is just a circle with those saying the same about Davies, Anderson, Knebel, Santana, or Arcia in the last year or two.

[bizarro]

The Venn diagram of people who are dead set on just cutting bait with Shaw or Aguilar is just a circle with those saying the same about Davies, Anderson, Knebel, Santana, or Arcia in the last year or two.

So, given Aguilar’s historicity in the Minors and utter uselessness since late last season you base his inevitable success on what? A gut feel he’ll overcome his overwhelming career-long unimpressiveness and meager defense? And, you take a growing talent and hot bat out of the line-up for Shaw?!? Really? And this is comparable to the pitching situation and Arcia, who has clearly filled a position with zero meaningful organizational depth until Turang until now, how? And I also think many here would argue Santana falls nowhere near this comp. But, sure. Have it.

[Kerb Hohl]

The Venn diagram of people who are dead set on just cutting bait with Shaw or Aguilar is just a circle with those saying the same about Davies, Anderson, Knebel, Santana, or Arcia in the last year or two.

So, given Aguilar’s historicity in the Minors and utter uselessness since late last season you base his inevitable success on what? A gut feel he’ll overcome his overwhelming career-long unimpressiveness and meager defense? And, you take a growing talent and hot bat out of the line-up for Shaw?!? Really? And this is comparable to the pitching situation and Arcia, who has clearly filled a position with zero meaningful organizational depth until Turang until now, how? And I also think many here would argue Santana falls nowhere near this comp. But, sure. Have it.

I'm not predicting any recovery from any of these guys. One part of this is that I trust the scouting and analysis department of the Brewers on them. Even with that said, every team makes a mistake and holds on to guys too long. There may even be a bit of a fault of not wanting to let go from ownership.

I would bet on Shaw or Aguilar returning at some point. It might not even be this year, but they may be necessary next year.

Reckless, "this guy **** SUCKS, CUT HIM" stuff from management will lead to things like platooning 37-year-old Lyle Overbay and Yuni Betancourt at 1st base if not this year, next year.

Imagine if they placated fans (this board is pretty rational, but the hot take twitter realm and still most of this board wanted Anderson on a rocket to the sun with his HR problems last year and early this year) and cut Chase Anderson or gave him away for a bag of baseballs. Now imagine when Chacin underwhelms a bit, Burnes fails, Woodruff sputters for a while, Peralta sputters...guess what would be happening right now? We'd have Houser in the rotation and be basically begging on the street corner for help in the bullpen (where Houser is). Or we'd be trotting Burnes out there every 5th day because we don't have any better options. We already did strike gold with Gio but this is not a road that is successfully traveled often.

Get the idea? So imagine we placate the fans again and DFA Aguilar and trade Shaw away for some scrub to save some cash, because he sucks, right? Now imagine Moustakas DOES break his hand...now we're out there trying to sign the corpse of Kendrys Morales to spell Thames at 1B while Hernan Perez is our full-time 3B or something because our team blows.

Get the idea yet?

PS - Remember the guy that everyone questioned the mental health of Stearns/Counsell for last season for sticking on the roster too long? He's starting to pitch meaningful innings for one of the best teams in baseball right now.

[bizarro]

The Venn diagram of people who are dead set on just cutting bait with Shaw or Aguilar is just a circle with those saying the same about Davies, Anderson, Knebel, Santana, or Arcia in the last year or two.

So, given Aguilar’s historicity in the Minors and utter uselessness since late last season you base his inevitable success on what? A gut feel he’ll overcome his overwhelming career-long unimpressiveness and meager defense? And, you take a growing talent and hot bat out of the line-up for Shaw?!? Really? And this is comparable to the pitching situation and Arcia, who has clearly filled a position with zero meaningful organizational depth until Turang until now, how? And I also think many here would argue Santana falls nowhere near this comp. But, sure. Have it.

I'm not predicting any recovery from any of these guys. One part of this is that I trust the scouting and analysis department of the Brewers on them. Even with that said, every team makes a mistake and holds on to guys too long. There may even be a bit of a fault of not wanting to let go from ownership.

I would bet on Shaw or Aguilar returning at some point. It might not even be this year, but they may be necessary next year.

Reckless, "this guy **** SUCKS, CUT HIM" stuff from management will lead to things like platooning 37-year-old Lyle Overbay and Yuni Betancourt at 1st base if not this year, next year.

Imagine if they placated fans (this board is pretty rational, but the hot take twitter realm and still most of this board wanted Anderson on a rocket to the sun with his HR problems last year and early this year) and cut Chase Anderson or gave him away for a bag of baseballs. Now imagine when Chacin underwhelms a bit, Burnes fails, Woodruff sputters for a while, Peralta sputters...guess what would be happening right now? We'd have Houser in the rotation and be basically begging on the street corner for help in the bullpen (where Houser is). Or we'd be trotting Burnes out there every 5th day because we don't have any better options. We already did strike gold with Gio but this is not a road that is successfully traveled often.

Get the idea? So imagine we placate the fans again and DFA Aguilar and trade Shaw away for some scrub to save some cash, because he sucks, right? Now imagine Moustakas DOES break his hand...now we're out there trying to sign the corpse of Kendrys Morales to spell Thames at 1B while Hernan Perez is our full-time 3B or something because our team blows.

Get the idea yet?

PS - Remember the guy that everyone questioned the mental health of Stearns/Counsell for last season for sticking on the roster too long? He's starting to pitch meaningful innings for one of the best teams in baseball right now.

I understand your point. Taken.

AND, 5.1 IP from DUCKY?!? DON’T bring his carcass into this. Please. Sheesh.

[Kerb Hohl]

I understand your point. Taken.

AND, 5.1 IP from DUCKY?!? DON’T bring his carcass into this. Please. Sheesh.

Haha, and to be fair, I am busy enough with a kid these days that I have less time to watch. I think I missed a good deal of the Drake failures last year so I likely did not have the emotional, visceral reaction to his ****. But the point is that if good GMs keep bringing these guys in, there must be something that they see of value. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Anyways, I hope Hiura is back in a few weeks and Shaw lights it up. We can figure our way to September with the logjam and then clear it out next offseason.

[livestrong4ever]

looking forward to nelson coming up. very excited to see him back, if we can get him going with davies and woodruff, we have a nice pitching going forward. i am assuming kimbrel and kuechel will be signed within the next couple of weeks now that the draft is over. i know it has been talked about forever and ever- but i think brewers should make a move. pitching is what makes you win in the playoffs.

[JimmyTheKid]

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Boo. Playing service time games.

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Ugh. Don't agree with this at all. But Keston seems to have the makeup where this won't faze him a bit. Still sucks for us fans. Hopefully it doesn't hurt the team and Shaw and Aguilar can get it going.

[buckbeer]

Hiura continues to rake in his first 2 games back in AAA, with 4 hits including a double and a HR and a stolen base. His current AAA stats is .341, .414, .710 and OPS 1.124.

I think it's a mistake to send Hiura down, he's clearly a very good hitter. The Brewers should have Moose at 3B and Huira at 2B.

It has taken Hiura a couple of weeks to adapt to AAA pitching before he went red hot offensively, and it has taken Hiura a couple of weeks to adapt to MLB pitching before he began raking, unfortunately he was sent down before he could get hot.