Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread

[Prokorov]

Portland also had a lot of early exits on their path to this season. If they're to get over the hump next season, Nurkic will have to have returned and play at a high level.

and we are young enough where we have time to build to get their ourselves.

Unless we cap ourselves out and just rely on MLE and minimums. I don't know, I've never been a believer on the backcourt stars winning big without a great big in the frontcourt. Just bad memories of Kidd-Carter hoping for Krstic to develop or hoping Cliff or Mikki Moore's jumper would ease their workload.

the cap is irrelevant with regards to age. our core is super young regardless of cap and will get younger with several picks over the next 2 years. we also have large expirings to add in trades.

i know what you mean on the past... i remeber the whole abdur rahim thing falling through and being depressed. and hoping mikki more could provide something. but its a different league. we will draft a forward. and no one outside kawhi or durant will have anywhere close the impact kyrie will

[Prokorov]

I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward

arent enough for what? thats a lock 50-55 win team

[Prokorov]

Sigh I love D-Lo, but I'm having a hard time believing Nets go far in the playoffs with a core of him and Kyrie. If Kyrie's coming, which even after every report and rumor that's come out and I'm still not convinced, they need to swing another deal for a 4.

i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.

Portland also lucked out in having to face a Denver team that still has a lot of maturing to do despite the collection of talent on that team. They should’ve beat Portland in 6, especially with HCA and no Nurkic.

If Portland faced any other top 5 team in the 2nd round, I think they lose the series.

Plus, getting swept in the conference finals without KD and Boogie on the court is embarrassing.

I can potentially be convinced that Kyrie =Dame’s but DLo would have to improve considerably off the ball to be as effective as CJ McCollum is.

id put dlo already ahead of CJ... maybe even by a wide margin.

[Prokorov]

I seriously would settle for Randle or Hachimura at PF. Tobias Harrias/Bojan Bogdanovic at SF. Butler/Kawhi are likely to resign with their own teams. And Durant seems like is going to the Knicks.

They would play randle at C. hachimura i can see. but randle is not a wing and we play a 2 wing system at F. harris is a perfect fit, so is butler

id assume they target kawhi KD, butler, harris to fill the 4 in that order and if they miss look into trades.

[NyCeEvO]

Portland also had a lot of early exits on their path to this season. If they're to get over the hump next season, Nurkic will have to have returned and play at a high level.

and we are young enough where we have time to build to get their ourselves.

Only scary part about the move is Kyrie and Lillard are opposites emotionally. Kyrie's been unhappy for the last 4 years at least. Not always his fault but he's still the common denominator. Is he willing to grow with a 2nd round level team? I would assume yes if he signs here but idk about that dude.

Lillard has kept that franchise together like glue through the ups and downs.

Kyrie would never be the capstone of what we're constructing. If the Nets signed Irving and he was the best player the Nets had over the next 4 seasons, it would only be because the Nets failed at every attempt to acquire an even better star during those years.

Kyrie is a means to an end. Signing him now does not inhibit the Nets from being in the market for stars via trade or free agency.

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[NyCeEvO]

DLo had mentioned a S&T 2 times in 2 different recent interviews iirc. I wouldn't be shocked if he's used in a S&T to acquire Irving himself. He fits that team's(Celtics) timeline probably much better than the Pels and AD would probably be a draft night trade if it were to happen.

I thought you couldn't S&T a player for another player who needs to be S&T'd back.

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[MrDollarBills]

and we are young enough where we have time to build to get their ourselves.

Unless we cap ourselves out and just rely on MLE and minimums. I don't know, I've never been a believer on the backcourt stars winning big without a great big in the frontcourt. Just bad memories of Kidd-Carter hoping for Krstic to develop or hoping Cliff or Mikki Moore's jumper would ease their workload.

the cap is irrelevant with regards to age. our core is super young regardless of cap and will get younger with several picks over the next 2 years. we also have large expirings to add in trades.

i know what you mean on the past... i remeber the whole abdur rahim thing falling through and being depressed. and hoping mikki more could provide something. but its a different league. we will draft a forward. and no one outside kawhi or durant will have anywhere close the impact kyrie will

That Shareef Abdur-Rahim situation was a low point for me as a fan. It's like YES WE FINALLY GOT OURSELVES A COMPLETE STARTING FI- oh wait dudes knees are fubar'd nevermind.

[MrDollarBills]

I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward

arent enough for what? thats a lock 50-55 win team

if you're adding a guy like Irving you're now in a "win now" situation. We will need more than Russell/Irving to compete against Milwaukee, Philly, and Toronto if Leonard stays.

[MrDollarBills]

I think there's a legitimate chance Durant comes here. I think he's a basketball guy who wants to have fun, probably didn't love the way he got portrayed after his heel turn, and may like the idea of playing with a team of up and coming talent. I don't see the appeal of the knicks to any FA with options since they are still pretty dysfunctional. The Porzingas saga was literally like 5 minutes ago.

Durant could easily decide to go to the Clippers or somewhere other than here, but I do think we're a destination that would make sense.

Stephen A said he's hearing Durant wants nothing to do with us.

[Netaman]

I think there's a legitimate chance Durant comes here. I think he's a basketball guy who wants to have fun, probably didn't love the way he got portrayed after his heel turn, and may like the idea of playing with a team of up and coming talent. I don't see the appeal of the knicks to any FA with options since they are still pretty dysfunctional. The Porzingas saga was literally like 5 minutes ago.

Durant could easily decide to go to the Clippers or somewhere other than here, but I do think we're a destination that would make sense.

Stephen A said he's hearing Durant wants nothing to do with us.

So he's coming?

But seriously I don't think anyone knows anything right now. The odds are top tier players aren't going to come here because none of them have come here before - so that's certainly the safest guess if you're on TV spouting hot air for a living. I'm mostly speculating on who I think Marks would go big for and who I think makes sense for the organization (which are kind of 1 in the same).

Leonard (extremely unlikely) and Harris (most likely) are the other 2 that are obvious. Kyrie could go either way but i'm more in the skeptical camp. I'm also in the camp that thinks it more likely than not we end up with a tier 2 pickup like Porter or Horford this year and then maybe make a run at Porzingas next year (or AD if he gets to FA).

[Aussienet3]

i dont see a fit for cousins. allen is the center of the future and they are looking to draft a backup center according to reports

porter would be an awful move if he doesnt come attached with the bulls lotto pick

I see Cousins as a stretch 4. When have you ever and I mean ever had leaks under Marks watch? I'm not buying this 'according to reports" BS. In fact i'd go as far to say that Mark's would have added a first round draft as penalty from NOLA if Langdon was the source of leaks lol.

there have been leaks. Ed davis and interest in kurucs come to mind.

Cousins is not a stretch 4 especially on the Nets where we want our 4 spot to be more of a G/F type then a bigger player

I'm not disbelieving you. But can you post links where Kurucs and Davis were spoken about this time last year. Oh and your right. DMC is not a stretch 4 per se. I'll settle for combo 4-5

[SpeedyG]

I see Cousins as a stretch 4. When have you ever and I mean ever had leaks under Marks watch? I'm not buying this 'according to reports" BS. In fact i'd go as far to say that Mark's would have added a first round draft as penalty from NOLA if Langdon was the source of leaks lol.

there have been leaks. Ed davis and interest in kurucs come to mind.

Cousins is not a stretch 4 especially on the Nets where we want our 4 spot to be more of a G/F type then a bigger player

I'm not disbelieving you. But can you post links where Kurucs and Davis were spoken about this time last year. Oh and your right. DMC is not a stretch 4 per se. I'll settle for combo 4-5

Rodi was spoken about because of visits and interest dating back to a year before when he pulled out.

I don't recall many talking about Ed leading up to free agency, but he's not exactly a name most would bring up in rumors

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[IceManBK1]

trading for gordon and capella with the rockets for DW, crabbe, and Allen isn't bad too. We max Dlo and still can sign couple 2nd tier FA like bojan bogdanovic and Julius Randle for 15/yr deals.
Dlo
Gordon
Bojan
Randle
Capella

[MrDollarBills]

I just lobbed a frag grenade over in the Knicks' offseason thread regarding Kyrie Irving, so if anyone comes over here looking for smoke you'll know who the culprit is.

[MGrand15]

It kind of bothers me that we're getting so much press about Kyrie and AD. It comes with the territory when you're going after stars but I liked it better when it was quiet and Marks just made a move out of nowhere. Now we have coverage on how we don't want Russell, trade talks about our young core, etc.

I think we have the pieces for an AD trade but I don't think AD is going to commit long term and we're not in the position to give up our young guys for a one year rental. I don't see it. The Kawhi trade was a unique situation. They only gave up 1 young guy + a late first. They got off Derozans huge deal. They were in perfect position to rebuild if Kawhi left.

I'm also not really buying the Kyrie talk. I think he's gonna end up in LA.

Tobias is probably our most realistic target.

[Rockice_24]

i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.

Portland also lucked out in having to face a Denver team that still has a lot of maturing to do despite the collection of talent on that team. They should’ve beat Portland in 6, especially with HCA and no Nurkic.

If Portland faced any other top 5 team in the 2nd round, I think they lose the series.

Plus, getting swept in the conference finals without KD and Boogie on the court is embarrassing.

I can potentially be convinced that Kyrie =Dame’s but DLo would have to improve considerably off the ball to be as effective as CJ McCollum is.

id put dlo already ahead of CJ... maybe even by a wide margin.

Really you think D-Lo is significantly better? It's close I think. Both are pretty close offensively and edge to Russell defensively.

[Rockice_24]

It kind of bothers me that we're getting so much press about Kyrie and AD. It comes with the territory when you're going after stars but I liked it better when it was quiet and Marks just made a move out of nowhere. Now we have coverage on how we don't want Russell, trade talks about our young core, etc.

I think we have the pieces for an AD trade but I don't think AD is going to commit long term and we're not in the position to give up our young guys for a one year rental. I don't see it. The Kawhi trade was a unique situation. They only gave up 1 young guy + a late first. They got off Derozans huge deal. They were in perfect position to rebuild if Kawhi left.

I'm also not really buying the Kyrie talk. I think he's gonna end up in LA.

Tobias is probably our most realistic target.

I think it's pretty clear that Kyrie is going to either BK or NY. No way he's going to LA.

[Paradise]

So, Vince Carter has announced retirement after next season.

If Kawhi goes to the Clippers and the Nets hit big this summer...how about a Vince Carter reunion for his final season if we land a super team this summer?

Key word: If.

[IceManBK1]

since okc interested in trading their #21 pick to avoid luxury tax. we could offer our 2nd rder to them. Then package Crabbe+#21 to a team like Hawks as salary dump to free up cap space. Offer Tobias Harris Max. Resign Dlo with Max. Sign Julius Randle. And we'll still have our own #17 and #27 to work with. I would think about trading DW+Allen+17th to Houston for Clint Capella. If not, i'll be fine with retaining Allen as our starting center.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Tobias Harris
Randle
Capella

We'll be a very balanced team. We'll kill teams inside and outside. Randle and Capella will be eating up all the rebs.

[MGrand15]

since okc interested in trading their #21 pick to avoid luxury tax. we could offer our 2nd rder to them. Then package Crabbe+#21 to a team like Hawks as salary dump to free up cap space. Offer Tobias Harris Max. Resign Dlo with Max. Sign Julius Randle. And we'll still have our own #17 and #27 to work with. I would think about trading DW+Allen+17th to Houston for Clint Capella. If not, i'll be fine with retaining Allen as our starting center.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Tobias Harris
Randle
Capella

We'll be a very balanced team. We'll kill teams inside and outside. Randle and Capella will be eating up all the rebs.

Man, can you stop throwing out that OKC trade please? The 21st pick for the 31st pick is such a ridiculous trade