2019 Draft Discussion

[Lwcasu]

It takes balls to draft Tacko Falls

If Tacko falls vote for president, because big tall takes precedence.

There I win

[yosemiteben]

We should draft Bol Bol and Tacko Falls.

I mean one of them has to work out, right?

[JMAC3]

Romeo Langford- Where art thou jumpshot?

Jaxson Hayes- Better shoot J’s against Hayes

P.J- Kentucky? They all can’t be busts, Right?

Clarke- The Japanese guy? No, the short one.

Nasir- Future MVP... of the allstar game.

Bol Bol- A 7 year old’s drawing of KD

Cam Reddish- I Call Backseat!! Future 3rd option.

Kevin Porter Jr.- The less efficient James Harden

Rui- Skills so Raw, call him Sushi

[fatlever]

The unintended benefit of my laziness ...

A couple of months ago I bought an ESPN Plus subscription so that I could watch a soccer game. I had intended to cancel it immediately after but I kept delaying it and forgetting. Two months later it's still active and I just realized that this grant me access to all of the Hidden ESPN Insider draft content. So I guess I'll keep it for another month.

Jon g wrote an article today about the draft rumors and discussions. Says that we should expect a very unpredictable draft with a lot of Trades due to the uncertainty of the medical conditions of so many players. Teams are getting upset at players and agents with holding their medical records as leverage to steer them into their preferred destinations. Says we should expect us to come up in the next collective bargaining process. The Hawks and Suns are rumored to be shopping there picks.

Wasn't much info on specific players or teams. I'll post anything that is relevant over the next few weeks.



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[UNCNYC]

This is my latest and last depth chart (from best to worse at their position) before the day of the draft. Surprise is I have B.J. Taylor as SLIGHTLY the best PG available right now. I also dropped Brandon CLarke down quite a bit at Center.

PG
B.J. Taylor ucf 6' 2", 195 lbs
Nickeil Alex.-Wal. Virginia Tech 6' 5" 210
jordan bone Tenesse 6′ 3″ 180
William McDowell-White Aust. 6' 5" 183
Coby White UNC 6' 5" 185
Kerwin Roach Texas 6' 4" 180 m
Carsen Edwards Purdue 6' 1" 200
Ja Morant Murray State 6' 3" 170
Jaylen Hands UCLA 6' 3" 170
Jalen Lecque Bre.Aca.(HS-NH) 6' 4" 190
Ty Jerome Virginia 6' 5" 195
Cody Martin Nevada 6' 7" 205
Makai Mason Baylor 6' 1" 185
Darius Garland Vanderbilt 6' 3" 175
Marcquise Reed Clemson 6' 3" 194
Geo Baker Rutgers 6' 4" 185
Jon Elmore Marshall 6' 3" 189
Markus Howard Marquette 5' 11" 175
Quade Green Kentucky 6' 1" 170
Shamorie Ponds St. John's 6' 1" 174
Ky Bowman Boston College 6' 1" 188
Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6' 3" 180
Javonte Smart LSU 6' 4" 190

SG
Jarrett Culver Texas Tech 6' 5" 190
Matisse Thybulle Washington 6' 5" 195
Admiral Schofield Tennessee 6' 5" 238
Jordan Poole Michigan 6' 4" 190
John Petty Alabama 6' 5" 197
Josh Reaves Penn State 6' 4" 210
Vanja Marinkovic Serbua 6' 6" 190
Ayo Dosunmu, Illinois 6'5 185
Romeo Langford Indiana 6' 6" 195
Tyler Herro Kentucky 6' 5" 193
Terance Mann Florida St. 6' 7" 215
Cam Johnson UNC 6' 9" 210
A.J. Reeves Providence 6' 6" 210
Zach Norvell Jr. Gonzaga 6' 5" 205
Aubrey Dawkins UCF 6' 6", 205 lbs
Miye Oni, Yale 6' 6" 210
Luguentz Dort Arizona St. 6' 5" 219
Tyus Battle Syracuse 6' 6" 205
John Konchar, Purdue Fort Wayne 6'6" 213
Vic Law Northwestern 6'7" 201
Xavier Sneed Kans. State 6' 5" 220
Herbert Jones Alabama 6' 7" 200
Quentin Grimes Kansas 6' 6" 205
Joshua Obiesie, Germany 6'6" 190
Kenny Williams UNC 6' 4" 185
Adam Mokoka France 6' 5" 190
Bryce Brown Auburn 6' 3" 198
Talen Horton-Tucker Iowa State 6' 5" 230
Kalob Ledoux Louis. Tech 6' 3" 215
Travis Munnings LouIS.-Monroe 6' 6" 200

SF
Rui Hachimura Gonzaga 6' 8" 225
Sekou Doumboya France 6' 9" 210
R.J. Barrett Duke 6' 7" 180
De'Andre Hunter Virginia 6' 8" 225
Deividas Sirvydis Lithuanian 6′ 8″ 190
Nassir Little UNC 6' 7" 215
Jaylen Hoard Wake Forest 6' 8" 195
Dylan Windler, Belmont 6'7" 195
V.J. King Louisville 6' 6" 190
Darius Bazley U.S. 6' 8" 195
Kevin Porter USC 6' 5" 195
Jarrey Foster SMU 6' 6" 220
Killian Tillie Gonzaga 6' 10" 200
Cam Reddish Duke 6' 7" 203
Oshae Brissett Syracuse 6' 8" 210
Yovel Zoosman, Israel 6'7" 198
Caleb Martin Nevada 6' 7" 205
Tyrese Haliburton Iowa State 6′ 5″ 172
Robert Franks Wash. State 6' 7" 240
Brian Bowen Australia 6' 7" 185
Braxton Key Virginia 6' 8" 220
Charlie Brown St. Jos's 6' 6" 185
Tadas Sedekerskis Lithuania 6' 7" 212
Vassilis Charal. Greece 6' 0" 236
Ignas Brazdeikis Michigan 6' 7" 215
Kris Wilkes UCLA 6' 7" 194
Louis King Oregon 6' 7" 204
Keldon Johnson Kentucky 6' 6" 210
Kezie "KZ" Okpala Stanford 6' 8" 195
Taeshon Cherry Arizona St. 6' 8" 206
Yoeli Childs BYU 6' 8" 225

PF
Luka Samanic Spain 6' 10" 210
Jalen McDaniels San D. St. 6' 10" 195
Zion Williamson Duke 6' 7" 270
Isaiah Roby, Nebraska
Chuma Okeke Auburn 6′ 8″ 229
Bennie Boatwright USC 6' 10" 230
PJ Washington Kentucky 6' 8" 230
Grant Williams Tennessee 6' 7" 236
Reid Travis Kentucky 6' 8" 245
Simi Shittu Vanderbilt 6' 10" 220
Kenny Wooten Oregon 6' 9" 220
Zylan Cheatham, Arizona State 6' 8" 220
Chris Silva South Car. 6' 9" 223
Jalen Smith Maryland 6' 9" 195
Tyler Cook Iowa 6' 9" 255
Aric Holman Miss. St. 6' 10" 225
LaMont West West Virg. 6' 8" 230
Dedric Lawson Kansas 6' 9" 230
Max Strus Depaul 6' 6" 215
Luke Maye UNC 6' 8" 240
Nick Ward Mich. St. 6' 8" 250
EJ Montgomery Kentucky 6' 10" 205
Nick Richards Kentucky 6' 11" 200
Eric Paschall Villanova 6' 9" 255
Ethan Happ Wisconsin 6' 10" 232
Nazreon Reid LSU 6' 10" 240
Daniel Gafford Arkansas 6' 11" 234

CENTERS
Bol Bol Oregon 7' 2" 220
Bruno Fernando Maryland 6' 10" 245
Mfiondu Kabengele Florida State
Jontay Porter Missouri 6' 11" 240
Neemias Queta, Utah State
Brandon Clarke Gonzaga 6' 8" 230
Tacko Fall UCF 7' 6" 300
Sagaba Konate, West Virginia
Matur Maker Canada 6' 10" 200
Austin Wiley Auburn 6' 11" 260
Shareef O'Neal UCLA 6' 10" 205
Moses Brown UCLA 7' 1" 245
Jordan Brown Nevada 6' 10" 205
Udoka Azubuike Kansas 7' 0" 280
Goga Bitadze Georgia 6' 11" 250
Donta Hall Alabama 6' 9" 230
Charles Bassey Western K. 6' 11" 221
Jaxson Hayes Texas 6' 11" 220
Marques Bolden Duke 6' 11" 245
Laurynas Birutis Lithuania 7' 1" 215
Viny Okouo Spain 7' 2" 240
Omer Yurtseven Georgetown 7' 0" 245

[JMAC3]

This is my latest and last depth chart (from best to worse at their position) before the day of the draft. Surprise is I have B.J. Taylor as SLIGHTLY the best PG available right now. I also dropped Brandon CLarke down quite a bit at Center.

PG
B.J. Taylor ucf 6' 2", 195 lbs
Nickeil Alex.-Wal. Virginia Tech 6' 5" 210
jordan bone Tenesse 6′ 3″ 180
William McDowell-White Aust. 6' 5" 183
Coby White UNC 6' 5" 185
Kerwin Roach Texas 6' 4" 180 m
Carsen Edwards Purdue 6' 1" 200
Ja Morant Murray State 6' 3" 170
Jaylen Hands UCLA 6' 3" 170
Jalen Lecque Bre.Aca.(HS-NH) 6' 4" 190
Ty Jerome Virginia 6' 5" 195
Cody Martin Nevada 6' 7" 205
Makai Mason Baylor 6' 1" 185
Darius Garland Vanderbilt 6' 3" 175
Marcquise Reed Clemson 6' 3" 194
Geo Baker Rutgers 6' 4" 185
Jon Elmore Marshall 6' 3" 189
Markus Howard Marquette 5' 11" 175
Quade Green Kentucky 6' 1" 170
Shamorie Ponds St. John's 6' 1" 174
Ky Bowman Boston College 6' 1" 188
Ashton Hagans Kentucky 6' 3" 180
Javonte Smart LSU 6' 4" 190

SG
Jarrett Culver Texas Tech 6' 5" 190
Matisse Thybulle Washington 6' 5" 195
Admiral Schofield Tennessee 6' 5" 238
Jordan Poole Michigan 6' 4" 190
John Petty Alabama 6' 5" 197
Josh Reaves Penn State 6' 4" 210
Vanja Marinkovic Serbua 6' 6" 190
Ayo Dosunmu, Illinois 6'5 185
Romeo Langford Indiana 6' 6" 195
Tyler Herro Kentucky 6' 5" 193
Terance Mann Florida St. 6' 7" 215
Cam Johnson UNC 6' 9" 210
A.J. Reeves Providence 6' 6" 210
Zach Norvell Jr. Gonzaga 6' 5" 205
Aubrey Dawkins UCF 6' 6", 205 lbs
Miye Oni, Yale 6' 6" 210
Luguentz Dort Arizona St. 6' 5" 219
Tyus Battle Syracuse 6' 6" 205
John Konchar, Purdue Fort Wayne 6'6" 213
Vic Law Northwestern 6'7" 201
Xavier Sneed Kans. State 6' 5" 220
Herbert Jones Alabama 6' 7" 200
Quentin Grimes Kansas 6' 6" 205
Joshua Obiesie, Germany 6'6" 190
Kenny Williams UNC 6' 4" 185
Adam Mokoka France 6' 5" 190
Bryce Brown Auburn 6' 3" 198
Talen Horton-Tucker Iowa State 6' 5" 230
Kalob Ledoux Louis. Tech 6' 3" 215
Travis Munnings LouIS.-Monroe 6' 6" 200

SF
Rui Hachimura Gonzaga 6' 8" 225
Sekou Doumboya France 6' 9" 210
R.J. Barrett Duke 6' 7" 180
De'Andre Hunter Virginia 6' 8" 225
Deividas Sirvydis Lithuanian 6′ 8″ 190
Nassir Little UNC 6' 7" 215
Jaylen Hoard Wake Forest 6' 8" 195
Dylan Windler, Belmont 6'7" 195
V.J. King Louisville 6' 6" 190
Darius Bazley U.S. 6' 8" 195
Kevin Porter USC 6' 5" 195
Jarrey Foster SMU 6' 6" 220
Killian Tillie Gonzaga 6' 10" 200
Cam Reddish Duke 6' 7" 203
Oshae Brissett Syracuse 6' 8" 210
Yovel Zoosman, Israel 6'7" 198
Caleb Martin Nevada 6' 7" 205
Tyrese Haliburton Iowa State 6′ 5″ 172
Robert Franks Wash. State 6' 7" 240
Brian Bowen Australia 6' 7" 185
Braxton Key Virginia 6' 8" 220
Charlie Brown St. Jos's 6' 6" 185
Tadas Sedekerskis Lithuania 6' 7" 212
Vassilis Charal. Greece 6' 0" 236
Ignas Brazdeikis Michigan 6' 7" 215
Kris Wilkes UCLA 6' 7" 194
Louis King Oregon 6' 7" 204
Keldon Johnson Kentucky 6' 6" 210
Kezie "KZ" Okpala Stanford 6' 8" 195
Taeshon Cherry Arizona St. 6' 8" 206
Yoeli Childs BYU 6' 8" 225

PF
Luka Samanic Spain 6' 10" 210
Jalen McDaniels San D. St. 6' 10" 195
Zion Williamson Duke 6' 7" 270
Isaiah Roby, Nebraska
Chuma Okeke Auburn 6′ 8″ 229
Bennie Boatwright USC 6' 10" 230
PJ Washington Kentucky 6' 8" 230
Grant Williams Tennessee 6' 7" 236
Reid Travis Kentucky 6' 8" 245
Simi Shittu Vanderbilt 6' 10" 220
Kenny Wooten Oregon 6' 9" 220
Zylan Cheatham, Arizona State 6' 8" 220
Chris Silva South Car. 6' 9" 223
Jalen Smith Maryland 6' 9" 195
Tyler Cook Iowa 6' 9" 255
Aric Holman Miss. St. 6' 10" 225
LaMont West West Virg. 6' 8" 230
Dedric Lawson Kansas 6' 9" 230
Max Strus Depaul 6' 6" 215
Luke Maye UNC 6' 8" 240
Nick Ward Mich. St. 6' 8" 250
EJ Montgomery Kentucky 6' 10" 205
Nick Richards Kentucky 6' 11" 200
Eric Paschall Villanova 6' 9" 255
Ethan Happ Wisconsin 6' 10" 232
Nazreon Reid LSU 6' 10" 240
Daniel Gafford Arkansas 6' 11" 234

CENTERS
Bol Bol Oregon 7' 2" 220
Bruno Fernando Maryland 6' 10" 245
Mfiondu Kabengele Florida State
Jontay Porter Missouri 6' 11" 240
Neemias Queta, Utah State
Brandon Clarke Gonzaga 6' 8" 230
Tacko Fall UCF 7' 6" 300
Sagaba Konate, West Virginia
Matur Maker Canada 6' 10" 200
Austin Wiley Auburn 6' 11" 260
Shareef O'Neal UCLA 6' 10" 205
Moses Brown UCLA 7' 1" 245
Jordan Brown Nevada 6' 10" 205
Udoka Azubuike Kansas 7' 0" 280
Goga Bitadze Georgia 6' 11" 250
Donta Hall Alabama 6' 9" 230
Charles Bassey Western K. 6' 11" 221
Jaxson Hayes Texas 6' 11" 220
Marques Bolden Duke 6' 11" 245
Laurynas Birutis Lithuania 7' 1" 215
Viny Okouo Spain 7' 2" 240
Omer Yurtseven Georgetown 7' 0" 245

Ashton haggans
Charles bassey
Neemias Queta
Jalen Smith
Killian Tillie

Are a few guys who went back to school, probably a lot more in your rankings as well.

Hard to take these serious when you have Zion the third ranked power forward and Morant 8th best PG.

I do like a few guys you have rated high in Roby and Bone, but I feel like you are way off on a lot. How did your rankings turn out last year?



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[BigSlam]

Hard to take these serious when you have Zion the third ranked power forward and Morant 8th best PG.

Even harder to take seriously when over the past 6 months he’s named pretty much every player in the entire draft on his “watch list”!!

Nothing like throwing the largest net you can find into the smallest pond to try and catch a fish!


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[stinger14]

Hard to take these serious when you have Zion the third ranked power forward and Morant 8th best PG.

Even harder to take seriously when over the past 6 months he’s named pretty much every player in the entire draft on his “watch list”!!

Nothing like throwing the largest net you can find into the smallest pond to try and catch a fish!


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All of that and Cam Reddish as the 14th SF, not overall, but 14th Small Forward

[gundysmullet]

Hard to take these serious when you have Zion the third ranked power forward and Morant 8th best PG.

Even harder to take seriously when over the past 6 months he’s named pretty much every player in the entire draft on his “watch list”!!

Nothing like throwing the largest net you can find into the smallest pond to try and catch a fish!


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All of that and Cam Reddish as the 14th SF, not overall, but 14th Small Forward

Being completely objective, that’s probably the only thing he got right.

[UNCNYC]

Hard to take these serious when you have Zion the third ranked power forward and Morant 8th best PG.

Even harder to take seriously when over the past 6 months he’s named pretty much every player in the entire draft on his “watch list”!!

Nothing like throwing the largest net you can find into the smallest pond to try and catch a fish!


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Thanks for the updates (as far as who has removed themselves from the draft) I often neglect to do so.

My draft last year has yet to be rated.
I wanted Zhiarre Smith and YuTa Watanabe and I wanted to invite Theo Pinson to camp.
Zhiarre got injured and YuTa spent most of the year along with Theo in G league.

I rated Toni Carr as the best PG available.
(he got drafted but I believe he removed himself from the team to play overseas for whatever weird reason).
So far I would honestly make the same selections as I made a year ago and draft those same players.

As for choosing quite a few on my "watch list" it actually isn't so much of trying to choose many in hopes of catching one
because the odds are actually against me since most of the players I tend to promote arent even considered draft picks on
most mocks...

The players I choose usually have the deck stacked against them because by going "undrafted" the chances of them even making
a team are almost non existent, but that doesn't necisarily mean they COULDN'T do so under fair-er curcumstances
(meaning actually being given a fair chance by a coach.)

Finally zion is a good prospect but imo he is overrated. He doesn't have a great jumper, and not great size.

I would take him over most if I had the first pick but I would do so more due to pressure rather than thinking he will be great.
As for reddish, I rated him where he played imo. He dissappeared in most games and most the season. I saw potential but nothing
to not shockingly warrent a low prediction as far as his career goes.

[UNCNYC]

Oh and I forgot I still believe highly in VInce Edwards to have a good chance at a solid career... But I am different in my picks. These are the ONLY players I really care to draft below. (of course I would trade back and aquire more along with one of them etc...)


PG
B.J. Taylor ucf 6' 2", 195 lbs
jordan bone Tenesse 6′ 3″ 180
William McDowell-White Aust. 6' 5" 183
kerwin Roach
Jaylen Hands UCLA 6' 3" 170

SG
Josh Reaves Penn State 6' 4" 210
Vanja Marinkovic Serbua 6' 6" 190
Ayo Dosunmu, Illinois 6'5 185

SF
Deividas Sirvydis Lithuanian 6′ 8″ 190
Jaylen Hoard Wake Forest 6' 8" 195
Dylan Windler, Belmont 6'7" 195
V.J. King Louisville 6' 6" 190

PF
Luka Samanic Spain 6' 10" 210
Jalen McDaniels San D. St. 6' 10" 195
Isaiah Roby, Nebraska

CENTERS
Bruno Fernando Maryland 6' 10" 245
Mfiondu Kabengele Florida State
Jontay Porter Missouri 6' 11" 240

[UNCNYC]

Oh and it's not so much of me adding lots of players on MY watchlist, it's also or moreso to (make-aware) of what could be outthere for us for my fellow fans to see... At draft time I will narrow my picks to the selected slots and end up with 3 (or how ever many we end up with) and make my selections as I did last year with Zhairre and YuTa

[stinger14]

Even harder to take seriously when over the past 6 months he’s named pretty much every player in the entire draft on his “watch list”!!

Nothing like throwing the largest net you can find into the smallest pond to try and catch a fish!


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All of that and Cam Reddish as the 14th SF, not overall, but 14th Small Forward

Being completely objective, that’s probably the only thing he got right.

Not in this draft class

[gundysmullet]

All of that and Cam Reddish as the 14th SF, not overall, but 14th Small Forward

Being completely objective, that’s probably the only thing he got right.

Not in this draft class

I'm just not a Reddish fan at all. I think he's gonna be a major bust.

[UNCNYC]

Besides, I think B.J. Taylor just feels like a HORNET lol. I can only see him in Charlotte, San Antonio or Chicago. (Of course none of that matters). But I truly think if someone gives him a shot they will be getting a STEAL. I surely hope we do. He would fit in well with a city like Charlotte.

A true point guard

Watch on YouTube

Something about him feels right for this franchise

Watch on YouTube

[_tijo_]

This I believe with all my heart...

MJ will force Mitch to draft Carsen Edwards. It might not be at 12, but he will end up on our team, either at 36 or a trade up from there. He's the NCAA tourney hero that our franchise seems to always pick.

[UNCNYC]

Yesterday I posted my last depth chart before draft day and this will be my last (who I would take if fell to us) list before draft day. I have had our first selection down to 3 players for a while now. I have since trimmed who I want us to take with the other two selections. Litterally overnight I have become quite a fan of Joshua Obiesie. I have known about him for a while and was not impressed at all. For some reason I see a potential star in him and his game. Welp this is my list of who I want us to take if fell to us. I doubt highly it will change before draft day much if at all on my end.

PICK 1
Jarrett Culver
Luka Samanic
Jalen McDaniels

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PICK 2
Joshua Obiesie
B.J. Taylor
Deividas Sirvydis

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PICK 3
Isaiah Roby
Jaylen Hoard
Josh Reaves
Jordan Bone
Kerwin Roach

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[yosemiteben]

this will be my last (who I would take if fell to us) list before draft day.

There is a zero percent chance this is true.

[LofJ]

Good idea or bad idea to give the Wizards their 2nd back in exchange for moving up to take Coby White? Or is the difference between him and NAW small enough to not warrant that?

[UNCNYC]

this will be my last (who I would take if fell to us) list before draft day.

There is a zero percent chance this is true.

Lmao, it acutally was true, I was done with my list until draft day, but when I saw your "There is a zero percent chance this is true" I felt why not update . I just added some back in some I had in before and moved Obiesie up. I would consider Obesie for our first pick. Maybe even over Mcdaniels (due to his possible offcourt situation). This list hasn't changed much. Been these players for a bit now. Especially for my top 3. Other than that I am still considering Zylan Cheatham and Darius Bazley again for our 2nd, 2nd pick but right now he's out.

PICK 1
Jarrett Culver
Luka Samanic
Jalen McDaniels
Joshua Obiesie - Imo he has lottery potential
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PICK 2
B.J. Taylor
Deividas Sirvydis
Isaiah Roby
Terrence Mann
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PICK 3
Vanja Marinkovic
V.J. King
Jordan Bone
Kerwin Roach
Ayo Dosunmu