Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer?

[bwgood77]

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If true that doesn't shock me. I'm sure Spencer would love to start and play an even bigger role than he does now.

If the nets do sign DLo and Kyrie then they probably should at least take calls on dinwiddie. By no means to they have to move him but they could see some diminishing returns with 3 guys who can play off the ball but all prefer to have in their hands.

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Also he went to HS in LA and college in Colorado....Phoenix or Scottsdale is kind of a mix of those two places....though hotter. He might just prefer the west as well. I still take what Ashley says with a grain of salt....but yeah, I think anyone not starting would welcome an opportunity to start.

[BobbieL]

Trade down with Atlanta for 8 and 10 then trade 8 for Dinwiddie/16/Williams, draft Clarke with 10, use MLE/Bucks pick/16 to S&T for Kleber. We don't need an all star PG, just a Fisher to Kobe and Shaq.

Dinwiddie/Melton/Okobo
Booker/Johnson
Oubre/Bridges
Kleber/Clarke/Bender
Ayton/Williams

I would not be averse to this type of trade where the Suns still get Clarke and than also Dinwiddie . Like you said would have the MLE to get PF

[TeamTragic]

Just wanted to point out that Randle/Dinwiddie have expressed interest in playing for this team. That doesn't include Oubre who is already on this team and wants to sign a new contract.

Maybe it has to do with Monty Williams. Either way great news after the past few seasons.

[bwgood77]

Do we really want any of the Nets point guards? None of them can play defense. Offensively it would probably look good, but defensively (back court with Book) - sheesh... Ayton can't protect the rim either, so all of this is a recipe for disaster. I would rather continue rolling with Tyler Johnson than Russell or Dinwiddie.

Yeah, I pointed out yesterday he was 99th in DRPM among PGs (Dinwiddie), only ahead of Trae Young, Collin Sexton and Jordan Clarkson, so he's about as bad as a defensive pairing you can find for Booker...the only positive is his size makes him at least in theory more able to hopefully one day become better and definitely be more able to switch and guard either backcourt position. But if you're bad, you're bad...and only ahead of a couple of rookies who are pure offense, smaller guys, and Clarkson, is a bit scary.

Wish he was a bettter shooter too. Only makes about a third of his 3s. We were last in the NBA at 32.9%, the Lakers second worst at 33.3%....so he doesn't really help your 3 pt shooting since he shoots about our average.

Playmaking he helps, and can be a pretty good distributor, but not top notch at only 2/1 ast/to ratio.

[Blonde]

If the Nets aren't going to bring back D'Lo and he goes to some team other than the Suns, I will consider that a huge failure...

...unless he is acquired in a sign and trade with win now pieces going back to Brooklyn, which we won't be able to compete with. Such as Indiana sending Sabonis + trade exception to Brooklyn and taking D'Lo into their cap room.

[SunsLyf3]

N. Mirotic
Tobias Harris
Thad Young

Gambo just named those 3 on his show as the PFs he expects the Suns to look at during FA.

[SunsLyf3]

If the Nets aren't going to bring back D'Lo and he goes to some team other than the Suns, I will consider that a huge failure...

...unless he is acquired in a sign and trade with win now pieces going back to Brooklyn, which we won't be able to compete with. Such as Indiana sending Sabonis + trade exception to Brooklyn and taking D'Lo into their cap room.

TJ Warren, Bucks 1st is pretty nice package. Russell would need to want to go there and I think we are more attractive destination.

[Crives]

Just wanted to point out that Randle/Dinwiddie have expressed interest in playing for this team. That doesn't include Oubre who is already on this team and wants to sign a new contract.

Maybe it has to do with Monty Williams. Either way great news after the past few seasons.

Regardless of their fit, they are quality players. Culture is changing

[Blonde]

If the Nets aren't going to bring back D'Lo and he goes to some team other than the Suns, I will consider that a huge failure...

...unless he is acquired in a sign and trade with win now pieces going back to Brooklyn, which we won't be able to compete with. Such as Indiana sending Sabonis + trade exception to Brooklyn and taking D'Lo into their cap room.

TJ Warren, Bucks 1st is pretty nice package. Russell would need to want to go there and I think we are more attractive destination.

Yes, but we might not even make an offer. I would be shocked if they would rather have Warren over Sabonis given their stated goals this summer (maximize cap room and pair a big next to Jarrett Allen).

[SunsLyf3]

If the Nets aren't going to bring back D'Lo and he goes to some team other than the Suns, I will consider that a huge failure...

...unless he is acquired in a sign and trade with win now pieces going back to Brooklyn, which we won't be able to compete with. Such as Indiana sending Sabonis + trade exception to Brooklyn and taking D'Lo into their cap room.

TJ Warren, Bucks 1st is pretty nice package. Russell would need to want to go there and I think we are more attractive destination.

Yes, but we might not even make an offer. I would be shocked if they would rather have Warren over Sabonis given their stated goals this summer (maximize cap room and pair a big next to Jarrett Allen).

I've read that report and I agree that it might look like a better deal but it all depends on where Russell wants to go first.

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A bit off-topic, but man, this was brutal.

[Blonde]

N. Mirotic
Tobias Harris
Thad Young

Gambo just named those 3 on his show as the PFs he expects the Suns to look at during FA.

All three of them would make us substantially better. Mirotic is someone I have cooled a bit on due to his numerous injuries over the year but I like his shooting, defense (yes, he is a good defender), and rebounding next to Ayton. Hard to gauge his market but low-mid teens sounds about right.

Harris is unrestricted and if he wants to be here we can clear up around 25M without too much hassle. I'm not sure that he is worth more than 25M though.

Thad at 12M for a year or two is fine value. Top tier defense and culture guy but might not have a lot left in the tank.

[bwgood77]

If the Nets aren't going to bring back D'Lo and he goes to some team other than the Suns, I will consider that a huge failure...

...unless he is acquired in a sign and trade with win now pieces going back to Brooklyn, which we won't be able to compete with. Such as Indiana sending Sabonis + trade exception to Brooklyn and taking D'Lo into their cap room.

TJ Warren, Bucks 1st is pretty nice package. Russell would need to want to go there and I think we are more attractive destination.

If they are not bringing back DLo, they will renounce and it will be a cap clearing move to clear space for two max guys like Kyrie, Durant...

So probably the easiest thing to do would be to waive and stretch Tyler Johnson. That should get close to max space. Then you might need to do one more by renouncing one of our free agents and/or trading JJ/TJ. If you wanted to keep Tyler, we'd have to trade both TJ and JJ into space or one of them and renounce Oubre.

[bwgood77]

N. Mirotic
Tobias Harris
Thad Young

Gambo just named those 3 on his show as the PFs he expects the Suns to look at during FA.

Harris is way too expensive unless we stretch Johnson and trade JJ/TJ into space....but would likely not leave enough for a PG. The others might be too much too.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

If the Nets aren't going to bring back D'Lo and he goes to some team other than the Suns, I will consider that a huge failure...

...unless he is acquired in a sign and trade with win now pieces going back to Brooklyn, which we won't be able to compete with. Such as Indiana sending Sabonis + trade exception to Brooklyn and taking D'Lo into their cap room.

TJ Warren, Bucks 1st is pretty nice package. Russell would need to want to go there and I think we are more attractive destination.

If they are not bringing back DLo, they will renounce and it will be a cap clearing move to clear space for two max guys like Kyrie, Durant...

So probably the easiest thing to do would be to waive and stretch Tyler Johnson. That should get close to max space. Then you might need to do one more by renouncing one of our free agents and/or trading JJ/TJ. If you wanted to keep Tyler, we'd have to trade both TJ and JJ into space or one of them and renounce Oubre.

Let's not.

[bwgood77]

Out of curiosity, how much cap space will you guys likely have this offseason?

We have something like $10.5 million unless we waive/stretch someone or trade our draft pick or some players to a team that simply absorbs their salary (or we take back less salary, thus increasing our cap space incrementally).

[bwgood77]

TJ Warren, Bucks 1st is pretty nice package. Russell would need to want to go there and I think we are more attractive destination.

If they are not bringing back DLo, they will renounce and it will be a cap clearing move to clear space for two max guys like Kyrie, Durant...

So probably the easiest thing to do would be to waive and stretch Tyler Johnson. That should get close to max space. Then you might need to do one more by renouncing one of our free agents and/or trading JJ/TJ. If you wanted to keep Tyler, we'd have to trade both TJ and JJ into space or one of them and renounce Oubre.

Let's not.

I'm not terribly high on D Lo given his usage and efficiency, but he has became a pretty good shooter, better defender and is a pretty good distributor. Nice size. The fact that he can't get to the line really hurts. I wish you could combine the best of him and Dinwiddie and get that player. Dinwiddie is more efficient overall but not a good outside shooter and a terrible defender.

What do you want/hope to do in the offseason?

[Saberestar]

Something that Gambo said yesterday is that he does not expect Richaun Holmes back.

The Suns probably want a backup C who can spread the floor and shoot the three, he talked about Dedmon like someone that would fit in that role.

I am OK with the idea of having another backup C.

I want someone bigger than Holmes, someone who can eat some space around the rim and has a higher basketball IQ.

Muscala can fit that role too.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Just wanted to point out that Randle/Dinwiddie have expressed interest in playing for this team. That doesn't include Oubre who is already on this team and wants to sign a new contract.

Maybe it has to do with Monty Williams. Either way great news after the past few seasons.

Regardless of their fit, they are quality players. Culture is changing

Exactly, When you're a bad team, You have to start somewhere. Getting quality veteran players and good prospects is a good change of pace.

[LukasBMW]

Something that Gambo said yesterday is that he does not expect Richaun Holmes back.

The Suns probably want a backup C who can spread the floor and shoot the three, he talked about Dedmon like someone that would fit in that role.

I am OK with the idea of having another backup C.

I want someone bigger than Holmes, someone who can eat some space around the rim and has a higher basketball IQ.

Muscala can fit that role too.

If that is true then that is STUPID!

Holmes is a stud. I love his effort, passion, and hustle. And he produces. He's M.Harrel lite!