Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[sco]

I personally hope that we trade Kris Dunn for Dennis Schroder and the #21 overall pick. I don't know what's going on with Schroder in the OKC, but his NBA career baseline is more of a 15-17 PER pg rather than his most recent abysmal season. But, it's pretty hard to sg next to Westbrook when your natural position is pg.

This is easily a Win-Win trade for both sides, bc I think that the real Dennis Schroder is better than any pg in FA outside of Kemba Walker and Irving.

With 3 draft picks, we have a very solid chance of finding at least two rotational players, one semi-star and one role player. I hope that GarPax is working the phone.

How is Dunn worth Dennis AND #21? I dont get it.. Dennis is better player than Dunn,why would OKC overpay?

Contract -Dennis is severely overpaid. Also a really overrated player, he kinda sucks (not saying Dunn is better by any stretch). I'd want them to take back Felicio if we did this.. even then we'd be taking on considerable salary.

Dennis is a little better than Dunn. At his best his shooting % are around 45%FG 35% 3pt. His A/T was around 2:1, and gets about 1 St/game and scores about 18ppg - taking 15 shots. I'd call that maybe 3rd quartile for starting PG's. He makes $15.5M the next 2 seasons.

I agree that OKC isn't going to take on Felicio's contract and Dunn. I also don't think the Bulls want 3 rookies on the roster, so adding 38 might be enough enticement for that deal to include Felicio. Alternatively, I might try to get out of guarantee on Blakeney's deal. If they won't take Felicio, I wonder if they'd throw in Ferguson.

[MeloRoseNoah]

Did you see how we were so short on talent that we had to give ample minutes to scrubs off the street last season? This team is severely lacking fresh blood talent.

[dougthonus]

The AD situation is very frustrating. Because if the Celtics wanted to, they could put an end to all this by putting in some package of Tatum and their plethora of picks and that would be that. If they truly arent going to go for it, then Bulls could put together a package that rivals the Lakers or Knicks.

I'm not sure anyone on the Celtics has all that much value. Tatum has slid down considerably in terms of his value. Brown's value has been decimated. Their 3 picks in this draft don't add up to be equal to our pick. The Memphis pick is probably the highest value asset they have left, but it's dicey in its value because it is highly likely to convey outside of top 6 (protected this year and they probably improve enough if they get another top 6 pick next year to not be top 6 when it is unprotected).

[Butler4thewin]

Would the Lakers consider the thunders first round pick for lonzo?

[sco]

Would the Lakers consider the thunders first round pick for lonzo?

I doubt it, but it may be a best offer situation. Just don't like that we'd need to take on both Shroder and Ball.

[sco]

The AD situation is very frustrating. Because if the Celtics wanted to, they could put an end to all this by putting in some package of Tatum and their plethora of picks and that would be that. If they truly arent going to go for it, then Bulls could put together a package that rivals the Lakers or Knicks.

I'm not sure anyone on the Celtics has all that much value. Tatum has slid down considerably in terms of his value. Brown's value has been decimated. Their 3 picks in this draft don't add up to be equal to our pick. The Memphis pick is probably the highest value asset they have left, but it's dicey in its value because it is highly likely to convey outside of top 6 (protected this year and they probably improve enough if they get another top 6 pick next year to not be top 6 when it is unprotected).

Say what you want about Tatum's value slide, but I think Tatum and 2 late 1sts trumps our best offer. That said, I don't think they'll trade Tatum under any circumstances.

[NewEra21]

The AD situation is very frustrating. Because if the Celtics wanted to, they could put an end to all this by putting in some package of Tatum and their plethora of picks and that would be that. If they truly arent going to go for it, then Bulls could put together a package that rivals the Lakers or Knicks.

I'm not sure anyone on the Celtics has all that much value. Tatum has slid down considerably in terms of his value. Brown's value has been decimated. Their 3 picks in this draft don't add up to be equal to our pick. The Memphis pick is probably the highest value asset they have left, but it's dicey in its value because it is highly likely to convey outside of top 6 (protected this year and they probably improve enough if they get another top 6 pick next year to not be top 6 when it is unprotected).

Say what you want about Tatum's value slide, but I think Tatum and 2 late 1sts trumps our best offer. That said, I don't think they'll trade Tatum under any circumstances.

The Tatum hype train certainly slowed down from his rookie season, but if you ask yourself from the all rumored teams to be interested in an AD deal, who is the best prospect they could get? It's probably still Tatum.

[dougthonus]

Say what you want about Tatum's value slide, but I think Tatum and 2 late 1sts trumps our best offer. That said, I don't think they'll trade Tatum under any circumstances.

Why? Tatum was a ~15 PER player both years. There's very little reason to think much of Tatum except for that playoff run two years ago, but he was awful in the playoffs this year.

Also worth noting that Tatum's predraft stock wasn't amazing, so he improved his position by actual play in year 1 but has declined already in year 2 instead of taking another step forward.

[VolumePoster]

Say what you want about Tatum's value slide, but I think Tatum and 2 late 1sts trumps our best offer. That said, I don't think they'll trade Tatum under any circumstances.

Why? Tatum was a ~15 PER player both years. There's very little reason to think much of Tatum except for that playoff run two years ago, but he was awful in the playoffs this year.

I think people are wary of taking on Boston's players, as they've underperformed on other teams. Additionally, Ainge is not the type to sell low on his players; and you're right that their value has fallen.

The Danny Ainge fairy dust is wearing off a bit. Which suits me just fine.

[Ccwatercraft]

Would the Lakers consider the thunders first round pick for lonzo?

I doubt it, but it may be a best offer situation. Just don't like that we'd need to take on both Shroder and Ball.

I think that would defeat the purpose (shedding salary) for okc. they'd save a million and take on 9.

The lakers "might" do something like that because the plan would be to use the 9 mil salary savings on a free agent, lakers imo are in a win now mode when FA opens.

[kodo]

Tatum + #14 + #20 would be a worse return for AD then what Chicago got for Butler.

I'd be shocked in NOP lets AD go for that low, but that is a really weird franchise who knows. Especially now that they have Zion they probably feel much less pressure to get a great return on AD since they have their "sell season tickets" strategy already covered.

[NewEra21]

Tatum + #14 + #20 would be a worse return for AD then what Chicago got for Butler.

I'd be shocked in NOP lets AD go for that low, but that is a really weird franchise who knows. Especially now that they have Zion they probably feel much less pressure to get a great return on AD since they have their "sell season tickets" strategy already covered.

The difference is AD has one year left on his deal and stated he wanted out. Butler still had two years, and made no indication that he wanted out, just that he didn't exactly click with Fred. Bulls made the move to sell high.

[aramada]

#7 for 10 and 17?

Atlanta will look to replace Prince. Having #7 and #8 should guarantee one of Cam and Hunter, if not both

[bigworld2017]

#7 for 10 and 17?

Atlanta will look to replace Prince. Having #7 and #8 should guarantee one of Cam and Hunter, if not both

I'd pull the trigger on that trade if I were the Bulls.I'd even throw in a 2nd Rounder in 2020 or Cash Considerations

[jump]

Could the Bulls trade #7 for Russell before the draft and then resign him at the market rate, since we would have his Bird Rights?

[aramada]

Could the Bulls trade #7 for Russell before the draft and then resign him at the market rate, since we would have his Bird Rights?

No, pending FAs can’t be traded, including those with options or ETOs

[weneeda2guard]

If I'm the bulls I put russell high on the list of targets and go after him while everyone is having meetings with kyrie, Durant and kawhi.

20 mill per to russell
Morris for full mle
Reddish 7th pick.

Pretty damn good haul for the off season.

[andyhop]

If I'm the bulls I put russell high on the list of targets and go after him while everyone is having meetings with kyrie, Durant and kawhi.

20 mill per to russell
Morris for full mle
Reddish 7th pick.

Pretty damn good haul for the off season.

I highly doubt you get Russell for less than the max.

[weneeda2guard]

If I'm the bulls I put russell high on the list of targets and go after him while everyone is having meetings with kyrie, Durant and kawhi.

20 mill per to russell
Morris for full mle
Reddish 7th pick.

Pretty damn good haul for the off season.

I highly doubt you get Russell for less than the max.

What team is paying russell the max?

[Hangtime84]

If I'm the bulls I put russell high on the list of targets and go after him while everyone is having meetings with kyrie, Durant and kawhi.

20 mill per to russell
Morris for full mle
Reddish 7th pick.

Pretty damn good haul for the off season.

I highly doubt you get Russell for less than the max.

What team is paying russell the max?

Teams that miss out Kyrie, Durant, or Kawhi.

Knicks, clippers, Lakers,