Crabbe Cake!

[DS5]

Man... Some of you just have to complain huh? How is this not a good deal? Have you guys watched prince play? Did any of you really think KD or kawhi was coming? 2 first rounders for taking on an expiring? And gives us a ridiculous amount of cap space next year? What else, realistically, did you want to see happen this off season? I'm not trying to be a dick.. But seriously what did you want to see happen?

Explain to me what makes this a good trade. What is the point of it? I am being serious. To me it makes no sense at all. I hope to God we don't unload Collins and Trae for mediocre draft pick and a ridiculous overpaid contract. We will always be in the no mans land everyone complained about at best. No loyalty really ticks me off.

Come on dude.. You seriously think trading prince is the same as trading young or Collins? Prince was clearly not a part of the future, and got 2 first rounders. And we weren't going to sign KD or kawhi so we used our cap space this year to get more assets.

[DarthTater]

Man... Some of you just have to complain huh? How is this not a good deal? Have you guys watched prince play? Did any of you really think KD or kawhi was coming? 2 first rounders for taking on an expiring? And gives us a ridiculous amount of cap space next year? What else, realistically, did you want to see happen this off season? I'm not trying to be a dick.. But seriously what did you want to see happen?

Explain to me what makes this a good trade. What is the point of it? I am being serious. To me it makes no sense at all. I hope to God we don't unload Collins and Trae for mediocre draft pick and a ridiculous overpaid contract. We will always be in the no mans land everyone complained about at best. No loyalty really ticks me off.

Come on dude.. You seriously think trading prince is the same as trading young or Collins? Prince was clearly not a part of the future, and got 2 first rounders. And we weren't going to sign KD or kawhi so we used our cap space this year to get more assets.

We don't know what he Will do. He only spends money on bad contracts. If we are not even going to make an attempt to get KD or Kawhi, and we're not going to pursue free agents from the next level down, where does that leave us? Why would he even talk about signing free agents?

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

Conventionally speaking, this should translate to Uncle Vince playing out his final year in another town.... but Schlenk went with an overload at the 2 last season, so who knows, maybe replacing the only true SF on the roster with another 2 won't mean anything to VC's return.

[Robo_Claw]

Explain to me what makes this a good trade. What is the point of it? I am being serious. To me it makes no sense at all. I hope to God we don't unload Collins and Trae for mediocre draft pick and a ridiculous overpaid contract. We will always be in the no mans land everyone complained about at best. No loyalty really ticks me off.

Come on dude.. You seriously think trading prince is the same as trading young or Collins? Prince was clearly not a part of the future, and got 2 first rounders. And we weren't going to sign KD or kawhi so we used our cap space this year to get more assets.

We don't know what he Will do. He only spends money on bad contracts. If we are not even going to make an attempt to get KD or Kawhi, and we're not going to pursue free agents from the next level down, where does that leave us? Why would he even talk about signing free agents?

KD and Kawhi’s people won’t even answer the phone from the Hawks. The next level down gets you nowhere anyways since we would have to overpay something fierce and that’s pointless. Keep building and accumulating young talent and picks is all we got, Schlenk def understands our place in the nba and seems to want to play the long game to get to the top. It’s our only option anyways might as well let it play out and see what happens.

[D21]

Great trade !
The only thing that I don't like is the "end being 2 secound round picks" for the future picks, as we said lots of times it's what you have to avoid. Now, the positive on this is that if BKN are really getting F.A., they should be in playoffs next year and we will get the pick in 2020, just hope they won't be the top seed and give us a 30th pick

[Jamaaliver]

Explain to me what makes this a good trade. What is the point of it?

To me it makes no sense at all. I hope to God we don't unload Collins and Trae for mediocre draft pick and a ridiculous overpaid contract.

You are frustrated. And that's okay. Clearly you were a Prince fan; and that's okay, too.

But this is an undeniable win for us.

Prince...is a mediocre player. He was drafted by a different regime to play a different role with a different squad of players. He's notably older than Trae and Huerter; he's due for a raise soon.

And, hard truth: he isn't that good. He's a league average player who's likely to top out at overachieving role player.

In team building, you don't overpay to keep modest players, particularly early in a rebuild. And you don't let assets expire without getting value in return.

We're not trading Trae (unless something really crazy occurs). We're building around Trae. And Prince was not a perfect fit due to age, talent level, contract situation and defensive limitations.




It's understandable to be frustrated when a fave player gets shipped out; but this is good for Brooklyn, Atlanta and probably Taurean, too.

[dms269]

Man... Some of you just have to complain huh? How is this not a good deal? Have you guys watched prince play? Did any of you really think KD or kawhi was coming? 2 first rounders for taking on an expiring? And gives us a ridiculous amount of cap space next year? What else, realistically, did you want to see happen this off season? I'm not trying to be a dick.. But seriously what did you want to see happen?

Explain to me what makes this a good trade. What is the point of it? I am being serious. To me it makes no sense at all. I hope to God we don't unload Collins and Trae for mediocre draft pick and a ridiculous overpaid contract. We will always be in the no mans land everyone complained about at best. No loyalty really ticks me off.

"Loyalty" is what got us into this mess with BudCox, overpaying for average players. Prince is nowhere near the same level as Trae or Collins. You give money to your stars, you don't give money to players who are a 5th starter/6th man...which is exactly what Prince is. I'm not sure what you thought Prince's value was, but a mid-teens/early 20s pick is what it is.

[Jamaaliver]

As @Jamaaliver says - get an assest vs letting them walk for free.

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

I have to think, indeed, it probably is.

[macd-gm]

This is a huge win for the Hawks. Two firsts for Prince? That alone is a great deal but don't sleep on Crabbe. He's good.

[benhillboy]

I don’t know much about Crabbbbbbbbe but his efg and box/WS stats suggest to me he’s better than Taurean. I did a 30-second long fist pump when I heard the news. I don’t care where the first round picks are, Schlenk has shown he can find players better than Taurean. I’m still tripping off #BudCox taking him 12th.

#17 and a future 2020 1st
Oh....Come back home Benny, HS back up and running.

Oh snap, stop playing! Preciate it.

[Jamaaliver]

This is a huge win for the Hawks.

And giving credit where it's due:

we are getting this asset because Budenholzer traded Jeff Teague instead of letting that asset go to waste.

This franchise is literally still benefiting from the #19 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft.

Excellent asset management!

[macd-gm]

This is a huge win for the Hawks.

And giving credit where it's due:

we are getting this asset because Budenholzer traded Jeff Teague instead of letting that asset go to waste.

This franchise is literally still benefiting from the #19 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft.

Excellent asset management!

I was thinking that too. We traded Jeff Teague for Prince and now Prince for 2 firsts and Crabbe. Nets must really think they have legit shots at free agents or AD.

[DarthTater]

Man... Some of you just have to complain huh? How is this not a good deal? Have you guys watched prince play? Did any of you really think KD or kawhi was coming? 2 first rounders for taking on an expiring? And gives us a ridiculous amount of cap space next year? What else, realistically, did you want to see happen this off season? I'm not trying to be a dick.. But seriously what did you want to see happen?

Explain to me what makes this a good trade. What is the point of it? I am being serious. To me it makes no sense at all. I hope to God we don't unload Collins and Trae for mediocre draft pick and a ridiculous overpaid contract. We will always be in the no mans land everyone complained about at best. No loyalty really ticks me off.

"Loyalty" is what got us into this mess with BudCox, overpaying for average players. Prince is nowhere near the same level as Trae or Collins. You give money to your stars, you don't give money to players who are a 5th starter/6th man...which is exactly what Prince is. I'm not sure what you thought Prince's value was, but a mid-teens/early 20s pick is what it is.

I'm pretty sure I didn't suggest overpaying for Prince.

[gurpilo]

I think Crabbe can be sixth man of the year for Atlanta, we were lacking a scorer of the bench, he can shine with Trae and is a good shooter, I think he is a good fit for us.

He was able to shoot the 3 better than ,400% on 3 of 4 seasons at Portland. I agree he has not found the rythm at Brooklin due to injuries and the emergence of Russell, Dwindidie, Lavert and Harris, he lack continuity but with less competition, a team where he fits better and a top passer as Trae, he can exceed most expectations. He is a great fit here.

[Givemthebird24]

This should really solidify the belief that we are still in asset acquisition mode. We are in no shape to be in win now mode. We won 29 games and our core is a bunch of 20 and 21 year olds who can't defend worth a damn in their current development stage.

Let all of the other franchises throw max money at all of the B-Tier free agents while we continue to build for the future and wait for the east to become weaker and the warriors dynasty to end.

The last 10 games of last season we looked pretty good. I don’t know who our new small forward will be, but, imho, Prince was not as good as DeMarre Carroll and certainly not as good as Milsap. It’s been a weakness on the team for a few seasons. We improve there and we are in the playoffs this season.

[_s_t_u_r_t_]

1. Welcome to the board.

2. You should clarify the Sap comment. He was/is a 4, of course, in spite of his 6-8-ness.