2019 NBA Finals Thread #5: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TOR 2-1 GSW

[LKN]

The best part is the salty bucks fans

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I was rooting for the Bucks this year (since my Bulls are perpetually hopeless at this point and Charlotte (where I live now) also sucks).. .but now that they are out I really hope the Raptors pull it off. They have some really dedicated fans and it's always exciting to see a fan base get to experience a championship for the first time.

It's actually pretty rare for an NBA franchise to win their first championship - so it'll be great if it happens this year.

[Triples333]

Keys to winning tonight:

-make Curry a volume scorer
-put Klay's hammy to the test by making him work on defense/force him to put the ball on the floor
-withstand the Warriors third quarter onslaught
-get 20+ points from one of Siakam or Lowry

All in all just come out with urgency and hunger. This could very well be the last blow the Warriors egos can take before they come crumbling to the ground. It still sounds crazy to think that the Raps could be NBA champions on Monday.

You have clearly not watched much basketball over the past decade, or have a very short memoey. You are sorely mistaken if you think they will roll over at any point, there is no team with more fight than the Warriors so long as Curry and Draymond are leading the charge. They've beaten teams down 1-3 before.

A healthy Warriors team came back from being down 3-1...but you're quick to forget that they also gave up a 3-1 series lead in the Finals. That should be pretty fresh in you head. My point is you gotta stop living in the past and making the Warriors sound like they're some unbeatable superpower who can mentally overcome all odds.

KD still hasn't practiced, Klay is rushing back, and Curry is getting worked into the ground. Steal another one in Oracle and you'll have the Warriors reeling. I know a vulnerable team when I see one.

[Triples333]

Keys to winning tonight:

-make Curry a volume scorer
-put Klay's hammy to the test by making him work on defense/force him to put the ball on the floor
-withstand the Warriors third quarter onslaught
-get 20+ points from one of Siakam or Lowry

All in all just come out with urgency and hunger. This could very well be the last blow the Warriors egos can take before they come crumbling to the ground. It still sounds crazy to think that the Raps could be NBA champions on Monday.

You have clearly not watched much basketball over the past decade, or have a very short memoey. You are sorely mistaken if you think they will roll over at any point, there is no team with more fight than the Warriors so long as Curry and Draymond are leading the charge. They've beaten teams down 1-3 before.

A healthy Warriors team came back from being down 3-1 and that was a one time occurance...and don't forget that they also gave up a 3-1 series lead in the Finals. That should be pretty fresh in you head. My point is you gotta stop living in the past and making the Warriors sound like they're some unbeatable team who can mentally overcome any odds. A lot has changed and these Raps are battle tested and have been through their fair share of of character building moments this postseason.

KD still hasn't practiced, Klay is rushing back, and Curry is getting worked into the ground. The stars are aligning. Steal another one in Oracle and you'll have the Warriors reeling bet on that. I know a vulnerable team when I see one.

The ignorant part of your statement is inferring that a Raps win tonight would break their will and they would then succumb. It won't happen. It has never happened. Their roster with Klay at 80%+ is just as healthy as post MCL tear Curry and the 2016 Warriors. Them coming back from 1-3 (against a superior OKC team to these Raps imo) is much more relevant to this topic (you thinking 1-3 breaks their ego). If the Raps win, it will be the fight of their life, annihilated Golden State roster or not.

[LKN]

Injuries are what they are... no one should have cried for the Cavs in 2015 and no one should cry for the Warriors now (props to the many good GS fans who have given the Raptors full credit).

[DingleJerry]

I said the same thing for Drake, due to his team affiliation he should not be acting that way. If he was just a guy buying a ticket then he should be treated like everyone else, if a team owner/employee you should have standards. If you're going to obsess over Drake standing and yelling (like all 18000 other fans there) then you have to make a bigger deal out of an owner shoving a player.

I really don't understand what you are trying to say here? First you say he "he should not be acting that way" and then that he was "standing and yelling" like other fans.

But just in case I am stupid to understanding your point and interpret it in light of Wisconnsin's obsession of Canadian rapper - Did Drake pushed Giannis or coach Bud so that is the reason he lives rent free in their heads and heads of Buck's fans even now, weeks after we trashed your asses?

Relax dude, no one insulted you or anyone on the Raps. I've been one of the most Raps supporting fans during the Bucks series the whole time.

I don't think my point was too hard to grasp. I'm of the opinion that what Drake was doing isn't really a big deal, he's standing and yelling like all other fans. Personally I don't care and think it's all media BS. But, I disagree with the Raps defense of it that "hes this ambassador thing so the team will let him do whatever he wants". I think someone in a team capacity of his should act above the normal idiot heckling fans and act like a professional with class. Just like the owners of GSW. Long story short, not a big deal, and if he was a fan I think it's totally fair game. Being that he's in team capacity, he should probably act a bit more mature.

[Waylanderz]

Emotions are going to run crazy wild when the Raptors win tonight. Yes, I believe it will be 3-1 when it is all said and done.

That said, the Raptors players have to show up. Warriors will be desperately playing it like a must-win game.

[DingleJerry]

Injuries are what they are... no one should have cried for the Cavs in 2015 and no one should cry for the Warriors now (props to the many good GS fans who have given the Raptors full credit).

Yup, part of the game and it's happened forever. Part of team building is building it with players low risk of injury combined with building it with depth to withstand injuries. At this point KD and Steph are guys that are dinged up more than their fair share. Klay on the otherhand has been a machine. They're top heavy with no depth, that was their weakness and its rearing it's head at the worst time

[Triples333]

Injuries are what they are... no one should have cried for the Cavs in 2015 and no one should cry for the Warriors now (props to the many good GS fans who have given the Raptors full credit).

Yup, part of the game and it's happened forever. Part of team building is building it with players low risk of injury combined with building it with depth to withstand injuries. At this point KD and Steph are guys that are dinged up more than their fair share. Klay on the otherhand has been a machine. They're top heavy with no depth, that was their weakness and its rearing it's head at the worst time

Well, and luck/timing. Virtually no star has missed more time in the past 3 seasons than Kawhi, while no star has missed less than Klay. KD has been fully healthy for years straight as well.

Ultimately, you play with the roster you have by the end of the playoffs and make the best of it. So far so good for Golden State despite all the injuries, assuming they can pull off tonight's game (they are Vegas favorites but in reality it should be a pick em at best for GS).

[Matty]

I said the same thing for Drake, due to his team affiliation he should not be acting that way. If he was just a guy buying a ticket then he should be treated like everyone else, if a team owner/employee you should have standards. If you're going to obsess over Drake standing and yelling (like all 18000 other fans there) then you have to make a bigger deal out of an owner shoving a player.

I really don't understand what you are trying to say here? First you say he "he should not be acting that way" and then that he was "standing and yelling" like other fans.

But just in case I am stupid to understanding your point and interpret it in light of Wisconnsin's obsession of Canadian rapper - Did Drake pushed Giannis or coach Bud so that is the reason he lives rent free in their heads and heads of Buck's fans even now, weeks after we trashed your asses?

Relax dude, no one insulted you or anyone on the Raps. I've been one of the most Raps supporting fans during the Bucks series the whole time.

I don't think my point was too hard to grasp. I'm of the opinion that what Drake was doing isn't really a big deal, he's standing and yelling like all other fans. Personally I don't care and think it's all media BS. But, I disagree with the Raps defense of it that "hes this ambassador thing so the team will let him do whatever he wants". I think someone in a team capacity of his should act above the normal idiot heckling fans and act like a professional with class. Just like the owners of GSW.

Did Drake stole all of the fish in lake Michigan or something? is that why you're stilling fishing for an issue in here?

There is no comparison. Assaulting a player is different than heckling and even the players acknowledged it.

[LKN]

Injuries are what they are... no one should have cried for the Cavs in 2015 and no one should cry for the Warriors now (props to the many good GS fans who have given the Raptors full credit).

Yup, part of the game and it's happened forever. Part of team building is building it with players low risk of injury combined with building it with depth to withstand injuries. At this point KD and Steph are guys that are dinged up more than their fair share. Klay on the otherhand has been a machine. They're top heavy with no depth, that was their weakness and its rearing it's head at the worst time

Well, and luck/timing. Virtually no star has missed more time in the past 3 seasons than Kawhi, while no star has missed less than Klay. KD has been fully healthy for years straight as well.

Ultimately, you play with the roster you have by the end of the playoffs and make the best of it. So far so good for Golden State despite all the injuries, assuming they can pull off tonight's game (they are Vegas favorites but in reality it should be a pick em at best for GS).

Luck is definitely a thing. There have only been 3 Threepeats in the modern era because not only is it incredibly difficult... you also have to have some luck (just like anything else in life).

[DingleJerry]

I really don't understand what you are trying to say here? First you say he "he should not be acting that way" and then that he was "standing and yelling" like other fans.

But just in case I am stupid to understanding your point and interpret it in light of Wisconnsin's obsession of Canadian rapper - Did Drake pushed Giannis or coach Bud so that is the reason he lives rent free in their heads and heads of Buck's fans even now, weeks after we trashed your asses?

Relax dude, no one insulted you or anyone on the Raps. I've been one of the most Raps supporting fans during the Bucks series the whole time.

I don't think my point was too hard to grasp. I'm of the opinion that what Drake was doing isn't really a big deal, he's standing and yelling like all other fans. Personally I don't care and think it's all media BS. But, I disagree with the Raps defense of it that "hes this ambassador thing so the team will let him do whatever he wants". I think someone in a team capacity of his should act above the normal idiot heckling fans and act like a professional with class. Just like the owners of GSW.

Did Drake stole all of the fish in lake Michigan or something? is that why you're stilling fishing for an issue in here?

There is no comparison. Assaulting a player is different than heckling and even the players acknowledged it.

haha, have you read what I said or just want to insult for the sake of it and then wonder why people are complaining about Raps fans on here? What you said is my exact point, these people obsessed and made a huge deal over Drake who really didn't do anything (I'm basically defending him) then you have to come down big on a guy who hit a player (which is clearly way worse than yelling), and that to me it's even worse since it was an owner.

[tonyreyes123]

What if Curry gets hurt with this increased work load? I’d that the nail in the coffin

[Agimat]

I don't really consider KD as part of GSW. He's just a coward who joined a team capable of winning the championship this is their OG core minus Cousins. Fair game in my eyes!

[Matty]

Relax dude, no one insulted you or anyone on the Raps. I've been one of the most Raps supporting fans during the Bucks series the whole time.

I don't think my point was too hard to grasp. I'm of the opinion that what Drake was doing isn't really a big deal, he's standing and yelling like all other fans. Personally I don't care and think it's all media BS. But, I disagree with the Raps defense of it that "hes this ambassador thing so the team will let him do whatever he wants". I think someone in a team capacity of his should act above the normal idiot heckling fans and act like a professional with class. Just like the owners of GSW.

Did Drake stole all of the fish in lake Michigan or something? is that why you're stilling fishing for an issue in here?

There is no comparison. Assaulting a player is different than heckling and even the players acknowledged it.

haha, have you read what I said or just want to insult for the sake of it and then wonder why people are complaining about Raps fans on here? What you said is my exact point, these people obsessed and made a huge deal over Drake who really didn't do anything then you have to come down big on a guy who hit a player, and that to me it's even worse since it was an owner.

TBH I'm still in the "rub it in" mode.

But I stand corrected.

[NapoleonII]

I don't really consider KD as part of GSW. He's just a coward who joined a team capable of winning the championship this is their OG core minus Cousins. Fair game in my eyes!

Imagine 2017/2018 NBA playoffs without Kevin I am Reek Durant.

We missed two key glory years of LBJ vs GSW and the Spurs/Rockets vying for domination.

The franchise is essentially built on cheating and non-parity.

[TinmanZBoy]

This series reminds me the lakers vs pistons in 2004 final, the lakers with 4 HOFers were heavy favorite, but Karl Malone was injured, the lakers was defended vvery well by pistons, even with Malone, the pistons probably could have won the series.... the raptors has the best defense the whole playoff, no other team is even close to the level they defended, the warriors is a not match with or without KD... with KD, they will lose at game 7... without KD I see this series ends at game 5, a gentleman sweep

[Mamba Mentality]

You have clearly not watched much basketball over the past decade, or have a very short memoey. You are sorely mistaken if you think they will roll over at any point, there is no team with more fight than the Warriors so long as Curry and Draymond are leading the charge. They've beaten teams down 1-3 before.

A healthy Warriors team came back from being down 3-1 and that was a one time occurance...and don't forget that they also gave up a 3-1 series lead in the Finals. That should be pretty fresh in you head. My point is you gotta stop living in the past and making the Warriors sound like they're some unbeatable team who can mentally overcome any odds. A lot has changed and these Raps are battle tested and have been through their fair share of of character building moments this postseason.

KD still hasn't practiced, Klay is rushing back, and Curry is getting worked into the ground. The stars are aligning. Steal another one in Oracle and you'll have the Warriors reeling bet on that. I know a vulnerable team when I see one.

The ignorant part of your statement is inferring that a Raps win tonight would break their will and they would then succumb. It won't happen. It has never happened. Their roster with Klay at 80%+ is just as healthy as post MCL tear Curry and the 2016 Warriors. Them coming back from 1-3 (against a superior OKC team to these Raps imo) is much more relevant to this topic (you thinking 1-3 breaks their ego). If the Raps win, it will be the fight of their life, annihilated Golden State roster or not.

Curry never tore his MCL, it was a sprain which took 3 weeks of rehab and from what I remember he wasn't rushed back. Klay on the other hand is 5 days removed from a hamstring injury (people in the organization are recommending that he sit the rest of the postseason) but he's rushing back because the Warriors are desperate. You cant compare the two...

Anyway I'm done arguing about the Warriors state of mind, it's all subjective. I know what I'm going to get with the Raptors. They've shown composure under pressure and have the best player in the league, there's no chance in hell they'd choke away a 3-1 lead. All the pressure is on the Warriors if they lose tonight.

[SFour]

This series reminds me the lakers vs pistons in 2004 final, the lakers with 4 HOFers were heavy favorite, but Karl Malone was injured, the lakers was defended vvery well by pistons, even with Malone, the pistons probably could have won the series.... the raptors has the best defense the whole playoff, no other team is even close to the level they defended, the warriors is a not match with or without KD... with KD, they will lose at game 7... without KD I see this series ends at game 5, a gentleman sweep

Ya too many people think that if KD comes back the Warriors will just win every game...but they seem to forget that with KD the Warriors are 6-4 in this playoffs...or 2-2 against the Rockets...so even if a rusty KD comes back it doesn't mean they'll steamroll the Raptors.

[Jay 20]

A healthy Warriors team came back from being down 3-1 and that was a one time occurance...and don't forget that they also gave up a 3-1 series lead in the Finals. That should be pretty fresh in you head. My point is you gotta stop living in the past and making the Warriors sound like they're some unbeatable team who can mentally overcome any odds. A lot has changed and these Raps are battle tested and have been through their fair share of of character building moments this postseason.

KD still hasn't practiced, Klay is rushing back, and Curry is getting worked into the ground. The stars are aligning. Steal another one in Oracle and you'll have the Warriors reeling bet on that. I know a vulnerable team when I see one.

The ignorant part of your statement is inferring that a Raps win tonight would break their will and they would then succumb. It won't happen. It has never happened. Their roster with Klay at 80%+ is just as healthy as post MCL tear Curry and the 2016 Warriors. Them coming back from 1-3 (against a superior OKC team to these Raps imo) is much more relevant to this topic (you thinking 1-3 breaks their ego). If the Raps win, it will be the fight of their life, annihilated Golden State roster or not.

Curry never tore his MCL, it was a sprain which took 3 weeks of rehab and from what I remember he wasn't rushed back. Klay on the other hand is 5 days removed from a hamstring injury (people in the organization are recommending that he sit the rest of the postseason) but he's rushing back because the Warriors are desperate. You cant compare the two...

Anyway I'm done arguing about the Warriors state of mind, it's all subjective. I know what I'm going to get with the Raptors. They've shown composure under pressure and have the best player in the league, there's no chance in hell they'd choke away a 3-1 lead. All the pressure is on the Warriors if they lose tonight.

He had a grade 2 mcl sprain which is technically a partial tear.

https://www.healthline.com/health/medial-collateral-ligament-mcl-injury-of-the-knee#types

I have nothing in this argument I'm aware but he did partially tear his MCL that year.

[Triples333]

A healthy Warriors team came back from being down 3-1 and that was a one time occurance...and don't forget that they also gave up a 3-1 series lead in the Finals. That should be pretty fresh in you head. My point is you gotta stop living in the past and making the Warriors sound like they're some unbeatable team who can mentally overcome any odds. A lot has changed and these Raps are battle tested and have been through their fair share of of character building moments this postseason.

KD still hasn't practiced, Klay is rushing back, and Curry is getting worked into the ground. The stars are aligning. Steal another one in Oracle and you'll have the Warriors reeling bet on that. I know a vulnerable team when I see one.

The ignorant part of your statement is inferring that a Raps win tonight would break their will and they would then succumb. It won't happen. It has never happened. Their roster with Klay at 80%+ is just as healthy as post MCL tear Curry and the 2016 Warriors. Them coming back from 1-3 (against a superior OKC team to these Raps imo) is much more relevant to this topic (you thinking 1-3 breaks their ego). If the Raps win, it will be the fight of their life, annihilated Golden State roster or not.

Curry never tore his MCL, it was a sprain which took 3 weeks of rehab and from what I remember he wasn't rushed back. Klay on the other hand is 5 days removed from a hamstring injury (people in the organization are recommending that he sit the rest of the postseason) but he's rushing back because the Warriors are desperate. You cant compare the two...

Anyway I'm done arguing about the Warriors state of mind, it's all subjective. I know what I'm going to get with the Raptors. They've shown composure under pressure and have the best player in the league, there's no chance in hell they'd choke away a 3-1 lead. All the pressure is on the Warriors.

You clearly don't know what a 'sprain' is. it's a tear. There are degrees of tears.

As far as the Raptors not being able to choke away a 3-1 lead? Maybe not. Maybe so. But I do know the Warriors can rip it away from them. And those odds only grow if Klay comes back healthier for game 5, and who knows, maybe Durant shows up. As far as Kawhi being the top player in the league, it ain't the case man. But you are going against that player.


Good luck getting that 3-1 tonight. Then these comments get REAL interesting.