Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

Huskies1947 · Post #1641 » by **Huskies1947** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:13 pm

RJ is going to be a stud. I have seen this guy play in person many times he has that 2nd gear that a lot of ballers don't. If the knicks pass on him it will be a mistake.

Post #1642 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:21 pm

Well, you all know the drill. If one Knick fan does it we all did it. **** sick of that ****.

Zenzibar · Post #1643 » by **Zenzibar** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:33 pm

Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

taj2133 · Post #1644 » by **taj2133** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:11 pm

Read on Twitter

KnixinSix · Post #1645 » by **KnixinSix** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:14 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

Kind of looks like KPs build when he came out.

Post #1646 » by **King of Canada** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:18 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

Kind of looks like KPs build when he came out.

Who the guy on the left?

2010 · Post #1647 » by **2010** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:18 pm

I like what Atlanta is doing.

Worst_to_First · Post #1648 » by **Worst_to_First** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:19 pm

I definitely won’t be surprised if RJ wins Rookie of the Year.

Post #1649 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:25 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

zion. but i hear you.

Post #1650 » by **King of Canada** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 6:26 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

zion. but i hear you.

Zion is nuts. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it came out that he was actually 27.

RHODEY · Post #1651 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 7:10 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

Not in this draft..maybe not since Lebron....

Post #1652 » by **DOT** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 7:17 pm

King of Canada wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:

Can someone show me a stronger built 18-19 year old in this draft?

zion. but i hear you.

Zion is nuts. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it came out that he was actually 27.

Thon Maker 2.0

N Y K · Post #1653 » by **N Y K** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 8:01 pm

DowNY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Greenberg a panicking Knick fan like some here

The Knicks convinced everyone that they were getting Zion? That they are getting KD?

People are really dumb. Death to ESPN too.

Post #1654 » by **dakomish23** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 8:13 pm

Harden was pretty efficient as a freshman. His percentages dropped for some reason as a sophomore.

17.8 PPG 5.3 RPG 3.2 APG 2.1 SPG 0.6 BPG
53% on 10.9 FGA / 41% on 3.2 3PTA / 75% on 6.6 FTA / 59% EFG / 63% TS

RJ

22.6 PPG 7.6 RPG 4.3 APG 0.9 SPG 0.4 BPG
45% on 18.5 FGA / 31% on 6.2 3PTA / 67% on 5.9 FTA / 51% EFG / 53% TS

Gotta look up some videos / numbers for context, but one thing that sticks out off the bat is the lack of shooting for Duke. It probably forced RJ into having to attempt some more 3's than he normally would have.

Any ASU fans got some insight into Harden's tenure?

F N 11 · Post #1655 » by **F N 11** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 8:18 pm

RJ gunna be a stud trust me on this one.

vallen · Post #1656 » by **vallen** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 8:54 pm

Please not another guy who cant shoot. Every single year this board falls in love with guys who cant shoot. And every year I hear how shooting is the easiest fix in the NBA, yet Shump, Frank, Mudiay, Knox, all werent great jump shooters, and none really improved. Just say No. We need scorers. If you cant do it in middle schoool, high school, college, its probably not going to happen.

Jarrett Culver - 2 way

Thats J-A Double R - E - Double T

shtolky · Post #1657 » by **shtolky** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:03 pm

vallen wrote:Please not another guy who cant shoot. Every single year this board falls in love with guys who cant shoot. And every year I hear how shooting is the easiest fix in the NBA, yet Shump, Frank, Mudiay, Knox, all werent great jump shooters, and none really improved. Just say No. We need scorers. If you cant do it in middle schoool, high school, college, its probably not going to happen.

Jarrett Culver - 2 way

Thats J-A Double R - E - Double T

Not only was Culver a worse scorer than RJ last season, he was worse from 3. Culver shot 25% from 3 in 2019. If your argument hinges on the two way aspect, fine, but bringing up scoring and shooting as a differentiator is strange.

camillepd · Post #1658 » by **camillepd** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:23 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
King of Canada wrote:You guys see somebody jumping on Bazley in the late 1st?

If the Knicks end up trading for the Cavs 26th pick i’d definitely would draft Bazley there. I think he was pretty highly rated coming out of high school and we struck gold with Mitch. Why not try that again?

How about drafting Nazeon Reid?

islanders11040 · Post #1659 » by **islanders11040** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:38 pm

One thing about RJ no one mentions is that he rebuilt his Jump shot the summer before his freshmen year at Duke. This was just year 1 using it. I wouldnt be surprised if he improves further after getting more reps along his career.

vallen · Post #1660 » by **vallen** » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:39 pm

shtolky wrote:
vallen wrote:Please not another guy who cant shoot. Every single year this board falls in love with guys who cant shoot. And every year I hear how shooting is the easiest fix in the NBA, yet Shump, Frank, Mudiay, Knox, all werent great jump shooters, and none really improved. Just say No. We need scorers. If you cant do it in middle schoool, high school, college, its probably not going to happen.

Jarrett Culver - 2 way

Thats J-A Double R - E - Double T

Not only was Culver a worse scorer than RJ last season, he was worse from 3. Culver shot 25% from 3 in 2019. If your argument hinges on the two way aspect, fine, but bringing up scoring and shooting as a differentiator is strange.

am I reading these wrong ?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4395625/rj-barrett

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4277928/jarrett-culver

Both shot 30% from 3 and Culver shot 46% for the season while RJ shot 45%

Very similar it seems and forgive me if im not reading that right, but I watched a lot of Zion this season, and do not feel comfortable with RJ. One scout said it best.

"I see a general lack of creativity in his game. I don't see the ability to pound and elevate and create much of anything from the midrange," notes Oringher. "I don't see much iso ability besides a simple straight left-hand drive. … It's going to be very difficult for him to be an elite scorer while lacking these attributes."

"There's a concern about his ability to go both directions off the dribble and there wasn't one thing that jumped out about his game at Duke where you said, 'This is an elite skill that will stand out at the next level.' That's worrisome," a scout said.

SHOT SELECTION

"There is a nasty flip side here too (to his competitive nature). That "will to win" can lead to forcing shots, distrust of team/system, etc.," one talent evaluator says. "Too many times this year it appeared as if he didn't trust his teammates/system and forced shots that he had no business taking. (this is what drove me nuts)

Adds another scout: "Maybe his shot selection will be different at this level but it gave you pause when you watched him this season. The discipline may come, but it's far from a certainty and would leave me a bit concerned if I took him."

What Should We Do?