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Re: Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer? 

Post#2161 » by carey » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:50 pm

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Now personally, I prefer the guy who gives you the points, rebounds, blocks, steals and super-high FG%. Nice that he's a local kid, as well. I don't understand why Hunter is almost universally projected to be taken ahead of Clarke.

I don't want to be terse but it's been explained to you ad nauseam and at this point I'm a bit sick of reading about Clarke. If you don't understand why Clarke is projected so low by now then you never will. Let's just move on to something else. Anything else.
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Post#2162 » by BobbieL » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:57 pm

Crives wrote:One of my favorite new scenarios

Suns trade: #6 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st
Suns receive: Dinwiddie + #10

Nets trade: Dinwiddie
Nets receive: #17 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st

Hawks trade: #17 + #10
Hawks receive: #6


That seems like a very good trade for all three teams. Especially if the Nets would like a bit more cap space. Suns would get their PG and still have a draft pick.


Suns current cap space I believe would be taken primarily by Dinwiddie but they would have Jackson, Warren &/or Johnson to get more cap space.
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Re: Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer? 

Post#2163 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:08 pm

carey wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Now personally, I prefer the guy who gives you the points, rebounds, blocks, steals and super-high FG%. Nice that he's a local kid, as well. I don't understand why Hunter is almost universally projected to be taken ahead of Clarke.

I don't want to be terse but it's been explained to you ad nauseam and at this point I'm a bit sick of reading about Clarke. If you don't understand why Clarke is projected so low by now then you never will. Let's just move on to something else. Anything else.


:-?

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Post#2164 » by Crives » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:33 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:One of my favorite new scenarios

Suns trade: #6 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st
Suns receive: Dinwiddie + #10

Nets trade: Dinwiddie
Nets receive: #17 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st

Hawks trade: #17 + #10
Hawks receive: #6


That seems like a very good trade for all three teams. Especially if the Nets would like a bit more cap space. Suns would get their PG and still have a draft pick.


Suns current cap space I believe would be taken primarily by Dinwiddie but they would have Jackson, Warren &/or Johnson to get more cap space.


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Post#2165 » by BobbieL » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:37 pm

Crives wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:One of my favorite new scenarios

Suns trade: #6 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st
Suns receive: Dinwiddie + #10

Nets trade: Dinwiddie
Nets receive: #17 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st

Hawks trade: #17 + #10
Hawks receive: #6


That seems like a very good trade for all three teams. Especially if the Nets would like a bit more cap space. Suns would get their PG and still have a draft pick.


Suns current cap space I believe would be taken primarily by Dinwiddie but they would have Jackson, Warren &/or Johnson to get more cap space.


Someone send this to jones please


Tweet it to AShley Nevel -- she will get it to Jones :). I am joking but also serious


The only thing they may want the Bucks pick for is a trade with the Cavs but as we saw yesterday - I doubt the Bucks pick in a year will be enough to get that done to get JRs contract
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Re: Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer? 

Post#2166 » by Crives » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:49 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Crives wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
That seems like a very good trade for all three teams. Especially if the Nets would like a bit more cap space. Suns would get their PG and still have a draft pick.


Suns current cap space I believe would be taken primarily by Dinwiddie but they would have Jackson, Warren &/or Johnson to get more cap space.


Someone send this to jones please


Tweet it to AShley Nevel -- she will get it to Jones :). I am joking but also serious


The only thing they may want the Bucks pick for is a trade with the Cavs but as we saw yesterday - I doubt the Bucks pick in a year will be enough to get that done to get JRs contract


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Post#2167 » by LukasBMW » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:44 pm

If you think about it, Tyler Johnson is kinda like a Brogdon lite. A combo guard who plays tough defense, can hit the open 3, and kinda create.
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Post#2168 » by Crives » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:47 pm

LukasBMW wrote:If you think about it, Tyler Johnson is kinda like a Brogdon lite. A combo guard who plays tough defense, can hit the open 3, and kinda create.


Anyone listen to Monty’s recent interview on 98.7? Monty sounds really high on Tyler, doesn’t look like he’s going anywhere.
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Post#2169 » by Crives » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:03 pm

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Post#2170 » by BobbieL » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:05 pm

Crives wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:If you think about it, Tyler Johnson is kinda like a Brogdon lite. A combo guard who plays tough defense, can hit the open 3, and kinda create.


Anyone listen to Monty’s recent interview on 98.7? Monty sounds really high on Tyler, doesn’t look like he’s going anywhere.



I think Tyler brings a lot of value to the team thats for sure. I think he is a good third guard, can run at the 1 or 2. Will defend, play hard. I think the only way Tyler is gone is for a big time max or close to it player. They can meet many of their needs with the 6th pick, Warren &/or Jackson with current cap space. Still would prefer to keep Warren too.
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Post#2171 » by RunDogGun » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:39 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Crives wrote:One of my favorite new scenarios

Suns trade: #6 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st
Suns receive: Dinwiddie + #10

Nets trade: Dinwiddie
Nets receive: #17 + #32 + Milwaukee 1st

Hawks trade: #17 + #10
Hawks receive: #6

I don't think Dinwiddie can be traded until FA period starts though. Someone with better knowledge of contracts would have to look into this.


Dinwiddie can be traded 6/13.

Awesome, I had remembered a Nets fan coming in and suggesting there needed to be a wait, but good to know he can be traded before FA period.
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Post#2172 » by bigfoot » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:59 pm

carey wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Now personally, I prefer the guy who gives you the points, rebounds, blocks, steals and super-high FG%. Nice that he's a local kid, as well. I don't understand why Hunter is almost universally projected to be taken ahead of Clarke.

I don't want to be terse but it's been explained to you ad nauseam and at this point I'm a bit sick of reading about Clarke. If you don't understand why Clarke is projected so low by now then you never will. Let's just move on to something else. Anything else.


Huh, the consensus mock draft on NBA.com has him projected as a lottery pick at #12. The Stepien has him at #5 and they had a pretty good handle on the 2018 draft. I think you might be missing something.
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Post#2173 » by rcc8884 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 8:30 pm

bigfoot wrote:
carey wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Now personally, I prefer the guy who gives you the points, rebounds, blocks, steals and super-high FG%. Nice that he's a local kid, as well. I don't understand why Hunter is almost universally projected to be taken ahead of Clarke.

I don't want to be terse but it's been explained to you ad nauseam and at this point I'm a bit sick of reading about Clarke. If you don't understand why Clarke is projected so low by now then you never will. Let's just move on to something else. Anything else.


Huh, the consensus mock draft on NBA.com has him projected as a lottery pick at #12. The Stepien has him at #5 and they had a pretty good handle on the 2018 draft. I think you might be missing something.


They were both finalist for the Defensive Player of the Year award and put up extremely similar stats other than Clarkes 3 blocks and steal per game vs. Hunter's .6 of each while Hunter can shoot the three shooting 44% while Clarke shot 27%.

Also, Hunter put up the same stats against top competition competing in the ACC vs. the WCC where the second and third best teams are Saint Marys and BYU with Saint Marys only making March Madness by beating Gonzaga in the WCC championship.

Great defense, good offensive, but Hunter can shoot the three unlike Clarke while doing the same thing against MUCH better competition
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Re: Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer? 

Post#2174 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Jun 7, 2019 8:50 pm

Isn't there a draft thread for all these in depth conversations about prospective draftees? Why not argue there? This is for FA and trade ideas.

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Post#2175 » by DB43 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:12 pm

Trade Idea I already posted in Trades and Transactions. Let me know what you guys thinks. It seems fair for all teams involved IMO. Suns end up with Ball and Brandon Clarke, and get off TJs contract, to free up a little long term cash. Seems like a win.


3 team Trade:

Lakers in:
Bradley Beal

Lakers out:
#4 pick
Ball
Hart
KCP
Wagner

Suns in:
Ball
#9 pick

Suns out:
#6 pick
2020 bucks 1st
TJ Warren

Wizards in:
#4 pick
#6 pick
Bucks 2020 1st
TJ Warren
Josh Hart
KCP
Wagner

Wizards out:
Bradley Beal
#9 pick

Why for Lakers?
They get Bradley Beal to pair with Lebron!

Why for Suns?
They get thier young starting PG, and can draft Clarke at #9 to play PF next to Ayton, and free up a little cap space by moving warren.

Why for Wizards:
They do a mini rebuild/reset. Get two top picks in this draft #4, and #6. Get 2 nice young players on good contracts in Warren, and Hart! Pretty large return for Beal imo.
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Post#2176 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:15 pm

DB43 wrote:Trade Idea I already posted in Trades and Transactions. Let me know what you guys thinks. It seems fair for all teams involved IMO. Suns end up with Ball and Brandon Clarke, and get off TJs contract, to free up a little long term cash. Seems like a win.


3 team Trade:

Lakers in:
Bradley Beal

Lakers out:
#4 pick
Ball
Hart
KCP
Wagner

Suns in:
Ball
#9 pick

Suns out:
#6 pick
2020 bucks 1st
TJ Warren

Wizards in:
#4 pick
#6 pick
Bucks 2020 1st
TJ Warren
Josh Hart
KCP
Wagner

Wizards out:
Bradley Beal
#9 pick

Why for Lakers?
They get Bradley Beal to pair with Lebron!

Why for Suns?
They get thier young starting PG, and can draft Clarke at #9 to play PF next to Ayton, and free up a little cap space by moving warren.

Why for Wizards:
They do a mini rebuild/reset. Get two top picks in this draft #4, and #6. Get 2 nice young players on good contracts in Warren, and Hart! Pretty large return for Beal imo.
Yeah that would be a hell of a trade for the suns.

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Post#2177 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:33 pm

On June 14 at least salary wise according to RealGM a Josh Jackson for Dinwiddie straight up trade works salary-wise. All that would be necessary then would be to negotiate which picks go where.

It would end up saving the Nets about $5 million in cap space and it would cost less for the Suns than trading just picks for Dinwiddie later and absorbing his entire salary and giving up nothing.

Not sure, but it gets the Nets really close to that two max salary slot without having to give up Russell.
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Post#2178 » by BobbieL » Fri Jun 7, 2019 9:56 pm

DB43 wrote:Trade Idea I already posted in Trades and Transactions. Let me know what you guys thinks. It seems fair for all teams involved IMO. Suns end up with Ball and Brandon Clarke, and get off TJs contract, to free up a little long term cash. Seems like a win.


3 team Trade:

Lakers in:
Bradley Beal

Lakers out:
#4 pick
Ball
Hart
KCP
Wagner

Suns in:
Ball
#9 pick

Suns out:
#6 pick
2020 bucks 1st
TJ Warren

Wizards in:
#4 pick
#6 pick
Bucks 2020 1st
TJ Warren
Josh Hart
KCP
Wagner

Wizards out:
Bradley Beal
#9 pick

Why for Lakers?
They get Bradley Beal to pair with Lebron!

Why for Suns?
They get thier young starting PG, and can draft Clarke at #9 to play PF next to Ayton, and free up a little cap space by moving warren.

Why for Wizards:
They do a mini rebuild/reset. Get two top picks in this draft #4, and #6. Get 2 nice young players on good contracts in Warren, and Hart! Pretty large return for Beal imo.


So it’s Ball for Warren but also giving up a pick to move back three spots. Seems a little much to me
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Post#2179 » by bigfoot » Fri Jun 7, 2019 10:14 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
DB43 wrote:Trade Idea I already posted in Trades and Transactions. Let me know what you guys thinks. It seems fair for all teams involved IMO. Suns end up with Ball and Brandon Clarke, and get off TJs contract, to free up a little long term cash. Seems like a win.


3 team Trade:

Lakers in:
Bradley Beal

Lakers out:
#4 pick
Ball
Hart
KCP
Wagner

Suns in:
Ball
#9 pick

Suns out:
#6 pick
2020 bucks 1st
TJ Warren

Wizards in:
#4 pick
#6 pick
Bucks 2020 1st
TJ Warren
Josh Hart
KCP
Wagner

Wizards out:
Bradley Beal
#9 pick

Why for Lakers?
They get Bradley Beal to pair with Lebron!

Why for Suns?
They get thier young starting PG, and can draft Clarke at #9 to play PF next to Ayton, and free up a little cap space by moving warren.

Why for Wizards:
They do a mini rebuild/reset. Get two top picks in this draft #4, and #6. Get 2 nice young players on good contracts in Warren, and Hart! Pretty large return for Beal imo.
Yeah that would be a hell of a trade for the suns.

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Re: Free agency and trade ideas: Which wings do we go after this summer? 

Post#2180 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jun 7, 2019 10:27 pm

bigfoot wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
DB43 wrote:Trade Idea I already posted in Trades and Transactions. Let me know what you guys thinks. It seems fair for all teams involved IMO. Suns end up with Ball and Brandon Clarke, and get off TJs contract, to free up a little long term cash. Seems like a win.


3 team Trade:

Lakers in:
Bradley Beal

Lakers out:
#4 pick
Ball
Hart
KCP
Wagner

Suns in:
Ball
#9 pick

Suns out:
#6 pick
2020 bucks 1st
TJ Warren

Wizards in:
#4 pick
#6 pick
Bucks 2020 1st
TJ Warren
Josh Hart
KCP
Wagner

Wizards out:
Bradley Beal
#9 pick

Why for Lakers?
They get Bradley Beal to pair with Lebron!

Why for Suns?
They get thier young starting PG, and can draft Clarke at #9 to play PF next to Ayton, and free up a little cap space by moving warren.

Why for Wizards:
They do a mini rebuild/reset. Get two top picks in this draft #4, and #6. Get 2 nice young players on good contracts in Warren, and Hart! Pretty large return for Beal imo.
Yeah that would be a hell of a trade for the suns.

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Oh I have some concerns about ball and that FT% is embarrassing but if it's Warren and moving back a few spots then sure that works for me. Not that I think Washington would actually do this :)

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