2019 Draft Discussion

Liver_Pooty · Post #701 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 3:40 pm

I hope UNC gets 90% of his predictions right. When he does we should put a statue up in his honor. I dig it.

gundysmullet · Post #702 » by **gundysmullet** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 5:11 pm

Snidely FC wrote:and if you haven't heard of Alen Smailagic its because he plays for the Santa Cruz Warriors and Golden State is trying to hide him
Who is Alen Smailagić? Smailagić is an 18 year-old Serbian basketball player who was selected 4th overall by the South Bay Lakers in last year’s G-League draft. The Lakers went on to trade him to the Santa Cruz Warriors in exchange for Jemerrio Jones and the Warriors 2019 1st round pick. With that happening, Smailagić became the youngest player to ever sign a G-League deal, having turned 18 just a couple of months before the draft. Because of his age, Smailagić wasn’t NBA draft eligible for another year, so just because the Warriors took him in the G-League draft didn’t mean they owned his NBA rights. It’s risky for a team to draft a player and help develop him, knowing he can immediately be selected by a different franchise a year later. The Warriors likely realized this, and there are definitely some things pointing towards the argument they’re hiding his talent from the rest of the league. During the G-League Showcase, the Warriors sat Smailagić citing “rest reasons” due to easing him into a season with more games than he’s accustomed to.

in this video the 18 yo hits a stepback 3, a post up fallaway, pokes the ball away several times leading to breakaways, finishes a breakaway with a reverse, bulls his way to the rim for an and-1, makes a beautiful high post entry pass, and swats three shots; and this highlight vid is from just one game

Watch on YouTube

That was a super impressive highlight reel. Granted it was the G league, but you could still see the skill set there. So how would that work, could an NBA team draft him right out of the G league? Thanks

Post #703 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:16 pm

just stop quoting UNCNYC when replying to his long posts (or any super long post, general rule). Just say @.... or edit his post in your reply. that saves a lot of scrolling. my 2 cents.

Post #704 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:17 pm

this was my hornets draft twitter list from last summer. any suggested additions?

https://twitter.com/fatlever/lists/hornets-nba-draft

https://twitter.com/fatlever/lists/hornets-nba-draft/members

taj2133 · Post #705 » by **taj2133** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:20 pm

Read on Twitter

taj2133 · Post #706 » by **taj2133** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:23 pm

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Post #707 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:24 pm

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Braggins · Post #708 » by **Braggins** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:51 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I hope UNC gets 90% of his predictions right. When he does we should put a statue up in his honor. I dig it.

Dude is just a big fan of basketball players in general lol.

taj2133 · Post #709 » by **taj2133** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 6:56 pm

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Snidely FC · Post #710 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 7:19 pm

gundysmullet wrote:
Spoiler:
Snidely FC wrote:and if you haven't heard of Alen Smailagic its because he plays for the Santa Cruz Warriors and Golden State is trying to hide him
Who is Alen Smailagić? Smailagić is an 18 year-old Serbian basketball player who was selected 4th overall by the South Bay Lakers in last year’s G-League draft. The Lakers went on to trade him to the Santa Cruz Warriors in exchange for Jemerrio Jones and the Warriors 2019 1st round pick. With that happening, Smailagić became the youngest player to ever sign a G-League deal, having turned 18 just a couple of months before the draft. Because of his age, Smailagić wasn’t NBA draft eligible for another year, so just because the Warriors took him in the G-League draft didn’t mean they owned his NBA rights. It’s risky for a team to draft a player and help develop him, knowing he can immediately be selected by a different franchise a year later. The Warriors likely realized this, and there are definitely some things pointing towards the argument they’re hiding his talent from the rest of the league. During the G-League Showcase, the Warriors sat Smailagić citing “rest reasons” due to easing him into a season with more games than he’s accustomed to.

in this video the 18 yo hits a stepback 3, a post up fallaway, pokes the ball away several times leading to breakaways, finishes a breakaway with a reverse, bulls his way to the rim for an and-1, makes a beautiful high post entry pass, and swats three shots; and this highlight vid is from just one game

Watch on YouTube

That was a super impressive highlight reel. Granted it was the G league, but you could still see the skill set there. So how would that work, could an NBA team draft him right out of the G league? Thanks

Smailagic became draft eligible just this month, meaning GS did not own his NBA rights, only employed him on a free agent contract, so yes any team may select him in the draft. If he were to go undrafted (he is unlikely to fall past GS 2nd rd pick, natch) he would become an unrestricted free agent (and GS would presumably then have the inside track to signing him).

DY_nasty · Post #711 » by **DY_nasty** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 9:06 pm

yosemiteben wrote:I don't think you can spam a draft thread by posting draft related posts?

Good on UNCNYC for spending as much time as he does on draft stuff. I damn sure couldn't name 5% of the players that he includes in his lists.

he's got zion listed third PF :lol:

he's smelling his own farts. nice guy or not

Post #712 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 9:28 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I don't think you can spam a draft thread by posting draft related posts?

Good on UNCNYC for spending as much time as he does on draft stuff. I damn sure couldn't name 5% of the players that he includes in his lists.

he's got zion listed third PF he's smelling his own farts. nice guy or not

I mean, so what? I saw a mock on The Atlantic from someone that had Clarke ranked as the second best prospect in this class.

I disagree with a lot (most?) of his analysis of top prospects, but I also watch way less highlight reels of lesser prospects so at least he puts in some work. People are free to post whatever takes they want about draft prospects.

DY_nasty · Post #713 » by **DY_nasty** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 9:39 pm

if a posted a bad opinion like "rui > zion" yal would give me crap on the spot but because he does it in a massive amount of text its cool?

alright i'll be sure to layer my crap sandwiches thicker in the future :lol:

Lwcasu · Post #714 » by **Lwcasu** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 10:17 pm

I’m glad the guy has his own opinion and others are welcome too. I don’t think anyone should be bashed. Just give thoughtful counterarguments and I’ll listen.

That being said I want ZERO part of Romeo Langford or Kevin Porter Jr if we keep that pick. My own opinion is take the risk package the pick and try to move a bad contract with it for a bad contract but much better player, I.E. Gordon Hayward or Kevin Love.

We have the youth to develop and need to get a sidekick who can score with Kemba. If we keep the pick, and Kemba I’m cool with PJ Washington, the French dude, Nas (not the rapper), Brandon Clarke (go ahead and hate me), or Bol Bol (hate me more). Most others besides the two I named before I’d be indifferent about.

If Kemba walks then I have zero care who we take because next years draft will be much more important. I don’t expect that.

JMAC3 · Post #715 » by **JMAC3** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 10:18 pm

I currently have a massive database of player comps for my draft coverage. Let me know if you want me to drop a few, just quote this and post the name.

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Post #716 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 10:21 pm

DY_nasty wrote:if a posted a bad opinion like "rui > zion" yal would give me crap on the spot...

Don't necessarily agree. Have you seen people getting called out for draft stuff in this thread?

Lwcasu · Post #717 » by **Lwcasu** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 10:21 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I currently have a massive database of player comps for my draft coverage. Let me know if you want me to drop a few, just quote this and post the name.

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Bol Bol
Nas
Brandon Clarke
Cameron Reddish
Zion

gundysmullet · Post #718 » by **gundysmullet** » Sat Jun 8, 2019 11:01 pm

Lwcasu wrote:I’m glad the guy has his own opinion and others are welcome too. I don’t think anyone should be bashed. Just give thoughtful counterarguments and I’ll listen.

That being said I want ZERO part of Romeo Langford or Kevin Porter Jr if we keep that pick. My own opinion is take the risk package the pick and try to move a bad contract with it for a bad contract but much better player, I.E. Gordon Hayward or Kevin Love.

We have the youth to develop and need to get a sidekick who can score with Kemba. If we keep the pick, and Kemba I’m cool with PJ Washington, the French dude, Nas (not the rapper), Brandon Clarke (go ahead and hate me), or Bol Bol (hate me more). Most others besides the two I named before I’d be indifferent about.

If Kemba walks then I have zero care who we take because next years draft will be much more important. I don’t expect that.

I would not want Langford or Porter either but what on earth would be the point of adding love or Hayward? I mean do you just want the team to be mired in irlevant mediocrity forever? Right now, the hornets are probably the least talented team in the NBA, what is the point of adding olderplayers to the roster?

Liver_Pooty · Post #719 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Jun 9, 2019 12:24 am

Hayward will be back to his normal self next season in my opinion. Took Paul George the same amount of time with the same injury and hes better than ever.

Lwcasu · Post #720 » by **Lwcasu** » Sun Jun 9, 2019 12:41 am

gundysmullet wrote:
Lwcasu wrote:I’m glad the guy has his own opinion and others are welcome too. I don’t think anyone should be bashed. Just give thoughtful counterarguments and I’ll listen.

That being said I want ZERO part of Romeo Langford or Kevin Porter Jr if we keep that pick. My own opinion is take the risk package the pick and try to move a bad contract with it for a bad contract but much better player, I.E. Gordon Hayward or Kevin Love.

We have the youth to develop and need to get a sidekick who can score with Kemba. If we keep the pick, and Kemba I’m cool with PJ Washington, the French dude, Nas (not the rapper), Brandon Clarke (go ahead and hate me), or Bol Bol (hate me more). Most others besides the two I named before I’d be indifferent about.

If Kemba walks then I have zero care who we take because next years draft will be much more important. I don’t expect that.

I would not want Langford or Porter either but what on earth would be the point of adding love or Hayward? I mean do you just want the team to be mired in irlevant mediocrity forever? Right now, the hornets are probably the least talented team in the NBA, what is the point of adding olderplayers to the roster?

Hayward looked good at the end of last year. He’ll be fine. I’d take the risk on Love. We know his defense sucks but we need a 2nd scorer.