3toheadmelo wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:
It's weird you're a big supporter of a guy who is a Steve Francis clone.
He's a poor shooter and a poor defender with a poor work ethic and an entitled attitude. Basically everything you don't want in a young player. The only thing he has going for him is that he's young and super athletic. Literally the only positive about him.
This has nothing to do with overrating other players and underrating our own guys or vice versa. People aren't blind. They can see what DSJr is. The people that think he has some super high ceiling and is a can't miss prospect are probably also the same people that raved about many other low basketball IQ guards that can jump out of the gym. Unfortunately, while flashy, those guys don't win you many games.
You must have a poor memory of what I've posted on this board the last couple of years. I've hardly been a DSJr supporter. But he's not a terrible PG, nor is his IQ low. Do I prefer more "floor general" like PG's, over somewhat score first guys? Yes. But DSJr has gotten something of a bad rap. Young PG's need some time to develop. Some guys, more like Ball, come in with the floor general aspect ready - that's their main talent -but need time to develop other aspects. Other guys need time to bring up the "running the team" part of the game, and DSJr isn't awful in that regard.
He's getting comped to total score first PG's like Rose, or ball dominant, score first, assists by having the ball guys like Marbury, and I think it's a bit early for that, and unfair in general. Just like I don't like people who write off Frank, who has other issues that need work.
And being Steve Francis redux isn't such a terrible thing, if that's even true. Use him off the bench as microwave PG, if that's what he becomes. Which I'm not sure he will - he may solve the "floor general" part, which again, I think he gets a bit of bad rap about anway.
Yeah I mean the dude looks up to CP3. He wants to play the game the right way. People forget he also led the ACC in assists in college. Theres a lot more to his game than just "dunks and crossovers". People just need to be patient and let him put it all together. Because if he does, we have an all star.
I am low on Frank too kinda how you are on DSJ but I would hope we keep Frank if we go the rebuild route. Keep all the young players and let them develop.
I mean, really they'd both be real good if they develop their 3pt shooting
I was a lot lower on DSJ before he got here, but after watching him in person, I don't think he's as bad as people say. He's no Mudiay, for sure, he definitely seems like he's a willing passer, and looks to move the ball and get things going, but as buzz says, he needs some work in that regard to get himself to be good at it.
Just like how I don't think his defense was as bad as people say, if you look at the stats, his PnR defense was 40th percentile in Dallas, 35th with us, so he was within average. Then his iso stats, he was 86th percentile in Dallas, 7th here, so I don't know what to make of that. Averages out to high end of average, so I'll go with that. Then our on/off numbers say we were 5 points better defensively with him on than with him off, so I think it's fair to say that he was at worst a net neutral for us on defense
Just, get his jumper consistent and he would be a really good player. Him and Frank both
