Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking

[F N 11]

As mentioned by a few people already, I'd prefer 2 of the max cats and depth. I think you're seeing that it goes a longer way than the 3 player franchises especially if there is any injury concern (KI, and AD in particular).

I think the championship is won with quality depth with smart veterans surrounding max cats/high gravity players. People like Bellineli, Ilyasova, Brook Lopez, Igoudala, Danny Green etc...All who can play with high IQ and stretch the floor.

A lot of folks dont believe in 2 max cats and depth. Trust me thats been my view on this whole thing.

2 max cats and kids or kids and 1 year deals.

[3toheadmelo]

Yooo shout out to 2010 he was in the kawhi thing before anyone else...

Read on Twitter

Dsjr
Rj
Kawhi
Kd
Dj

Omfg!!!!!!!

So we get KD and Kawhi while the Nets get Kyrie and Tobias Harris?

[3toheadmelo]

KD and Kawhi the best duo since Shaq and Kobe no cap

[SARGO127]

DSJ - Frank - Vet FA
Barrett - Trier - Dotson
Kawhi - Knox
KD - Mario
Mitch - DJ

I’m all in folks

[King of Canada]

I'd be happy with just making the right pick in the draft

[robillionaire]

DSJ - Frank - Vet FA
Barrett - Trier - Dotson
Kawhi - Knox
KD - Mario
Mitch - DJ

I’m all in folks

I'd maybe start Dotson at SG for more shooting since DSJ can't shoot and bring RJ off the bench at least at first but that's pretty much the same lineup I thought of too. None of this is happening obviously but it's fun to dream

[RShahNyC89]

DSJ - Frank - Vet FA
Barrett - Trier - Dotson
Kawhi - Knox
KD - Mario
Mitch - DJ

I’m all in folks

I actually think if we sign 2 max cats like that, we'd be better off trading out of the Barret pick. I just don't think he works with that lineup.

Either we go Garland, or we trade back for the Hawks picks and go like Tyler Herro and Nas Little.

[Clyde_Style]

Yooo shout out to 2010 he was in the kawhi thing before anyone else...

Read on Twitter

Dsjr
Rj
Kawhi
Kd
Dj

Omfg!!!!!!!

This Cris Carter is the same who wrote X-Files?

I used to believe him when he wrote about governmental conspiracys, alien abiductions, etc.

KD and Leonard together in NY? Its too much to believe...

I just experienced the range of emotions described by what is known in sports fan psychologist circles as the Wiig Index

Spoiler:

[ForzaMetro]

As mentioned by a few people already, I'd prefer 2 of the max cats and depth. I think you're seeing that it goes a longer way than the 3 player franchises especially if there is any injury concern (KI, and AD in particular).

I think the championship is won with quality depth with smart veterans surrounding max cats/high gravity players. People like Bellineli, Ilyasova, Brook Lopez, Igoudala, Danny Green etc...All who can play with high IQ and stretch the floor.

I think it depends on the two max cats.

If they’re two of Durant, Leonard, Davis, then I think you can get away with it.

If it’s Durant + Kemba or Kyrie, I think you need a 3rd reliable star.

I just wouldn’t want to half ass it...if you can open up a 3-4 year window, I think you get aggressive. I wouldn’t want to waste a year of Durant’s prime hoping that a few youngsters take a step up if those same guys could have gotten me back an all star on the same timeline as the stars I already have. It would suck to have Durant and Davis and lose in the playoffs because good veteran guards abused Dennis Smith Jr and a rookie who wasn’t ready for prime time.

[Reign23]

If we miraculously get KD and Kawhi, you don't need AD. Instead, you load up on strong 2-way role players and a depth on the bench. At the deadline, you "steal" some disgruntled veterans like Toronto did with Marc Gasol, to help push you over the top.

I still wouldn’t say no to an AD trade, but I’d also gauge the market on Beal and see how much cheaper I could get him for. I think he’d be an awesome 3rd star, and maybe you preserve Mitchell (who if there’s an AD trade, is absolutely going to be included).

Does #3, a future Knicks 1st, Knox, Frank, Smith get you Beal?

Beverly / Trier
Beal / Dotson
Leonard / vets min 3D
Durant / random thug PF / our 2nd rd pick
Robinson / vets min rim runner

Preserve the Dallas picks for future assets to supplement the core next couple of seasons

Yes please

easily... tbh I even think this is a huge overpay. #3, knox and another small asset should get i done.
(but then of course It wouldn't work for salary cap reasons)

[ForzaMetro]

If we miraculously get KD and Kawhi, you don't need AD. Instead, you load up on strong 2-way role players and a depth on the bench. At the deadline, you "steal" some disgruntled veterans like Toronto did with Marc Gasol, to help push you over the top.

I still wouldn’t say no to an AD trade, but I’d also gauge the market on Beal and see how much cheaper I could get him for. I think he’d be an awesome 3rd star, and maybe you preserve Mitchell (who if there’s an AD trade, is absolutely going to be included).

Does #3, a future Knicks 1st, Knox, Frank, Smith get you Beal?

Beverly / Trier
Beal / Dotson
Leonard / vets min 3D
Durant / random thug PF / our 2nd rd pick
Robinson / vets min rim runner

Preserve the Dallas picks for future assets to supplement the core next couple of seasons

Yes please

easily... tbh I even think this is a huge overpay. #3, knox and another small asset should get i done.

I think it’s a bit of an overpay, but similar to the Davis scenario, I’m figuring you do the trade after getting two max free agents, which means you have to include basically everyone else to make the math work (Beal makes $25 million)

Difference with Beal trade vs Davis is maybe you get to keep Mitch and keep the Dallas picks off the table

[DowNY]

Yooo shout out to 2010 he was in the kawhi thing before anyone else...

Read on Twitter

Dsjr
Rj
Kawhi
Kd
Dj

Omfg!!!!!!!

So we get KD and Kawhi while the Nets get Kyrie and Tobias Harris?

perfect response

[Reign23]

I still wouldn’t say no to an AD trade, but I’d also gauge the market on Beal and see how much cheaper I could get him for. I think he’d be an awesome 3rd star, and maybe you preserve Mitchell (who if there’s an AD trade, is absolutely going to be included).

Does #3, a future Knicks 1st, Knox, Frank, Smith get you Beal?

Beverly / Trier
Beal / Dotson
Leonard / vets min 3D
Durant / random thug PF / our 2nd rd pick
Robinson / vets min rim runner

Preserve the Dallas picks for future assets to supplement the core next couple of seasons

Yes please

easily... tbh I even think this is a huge overpay. #3, knox and another small asset should get i done.

I think it’s a bit of an overpay, but similar to the Davis scenario, I’m figuring you do the trade after getting two max free agents, which means you have to include basically everyone else to make the math work (Beal makes $25 million)

Difference with Beal trade vs Davis is maybe you get to keep Mitch and keep the Dallas picks off the table

yes, I agree with everything.

[Richard4444]

If we miraculously get KD and Kawhi, you don't need AD. Instead, you load up on strong 2-way role players and a depth on the bench. At the deadline, you "steal" some disgruntled veterans like Toronto did with Marc Gasol, to help push you over the top.

I still wouldn’t say no to an AD trade, but I’d also gauge the market on Beal and see how much cheaper I could get him for. I think he’d be an awesome 3rd star, and maybe you preserve Mitchell (who if there’s an AD trade, is absolutely going to be included).

Does #3, a future Knicks 1st, Knox, Frank, Smith get you Beal?

Beverly / Trier
Beal / Dotson
Leonard / vets min 3D
Durant / random thug PF / our 2nd rd pick
Robinson / vets min rim runner

Preserve the Dallas picks for future assets to supplement the core next couple of seasons

Yes please

easily... tbh I even think this is a huge overpay. #3, knox and another small asset should get i done.
(but then of course It wouldn't work for salary cap reasons)

But we have to match salaries or absorve Beal salary into cap space.

If will opt to match salaries we have to give away at least 5 players. I would not do it for Beal.

If we absorve Beals contract in july, we will not have enough cap space to get 2 FA Max. In this case I would only do it if we can keep Mitch and Dennis. The bid would be RJ, Frank, Dotson/Knox, maybe a pick. The starter team would be Dennis, Beal, Durant, Randle and Mitch.

[The_Special_One]

Don't meant to bring you down but Cris Carter also said the Raptors are still the favorites to sign Kahwi.

[Reign23]

As mentioned by a few people already, I'd prefer 2 of the max cats and depth. I think you're seeing that it goes a longer way than the 3 player franchises especially if there is any injury concern (KI, and AD in particular).

I think the championship is won with quality depth with smart veterans surrounding max cats/high gravity players. People like Bellineli, Ilyasova, Brook Lopez, Igoudala, Danny Green etc...All who can play with high IQ and stretch the floor.

A lot of folks dont believe in 2 max cats and depth. Trust me thats been my view on this whole thing.

2 max cats and kids or kids and 1 year deals.

I disagree with the 2max + kids. If I go the 2 max + depth route, I look for elite role players in additon to KD + whoever.

We have to be fully commited to a timeline. I don't want Knox or Smith to shoot 15 times in a conference final next season. you know how that will work out...

[Jeff Van Gully]

As mentioned by a few people already, I'd prefer 2 of the max cats and depth. I think you're seeing that it goes a longer way than the 3 player franchises especially if there is any injury concern (KI, and AD in particular).

I think the championship is won with quality depth with smart veterans surrounding max cats/high gravity players. People like Bellineli, Ilyasova, Brook Lopez, Igoudala, Danny Green etc...All who can play with high IQ and stretch the floor.

A lot of folks dont believe in 2 max cats and depth. Trust me thats been my view on this whole thing.

2 max cats and kids or kids and 1 year deals.

I disagree with the 2max + kids. If I go the 2 max + depth route, I look for elite role players in additon to KD + whoever.

We have to be fully commited to a timeline. I don't want Knox or Smith to shoot 15 times in a conference final next season. you know how that will work out...

yeah. you sign KD and you've crossed the rubicon.

[Stannis]

I'm hearing Ujiri might go to the Wizards. Hopefully not, because then if the Knicks want to make a deal for Beal, get ready to give up A LOT lol

[G_K_F]

Kawhi isn't leaving Toronto and Durant isn't coming to NY to be overshadowed by Kawhi. He wants his own team if he leaves Golden State.

[Stannis]

What's up with being hopeful that Knicks got a chance at Kawhi? I don't see it. Are we assuming the KD and Kawhi texted each other and said they want to join the Knicks? That's why Kyrie got upset and wants to join the Nets now, lol?

There's ZERO chance for Kawhi. It's LA Clippers or Toronto. If he wants to stay in cold weather, he will stay with Toronto.