2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

[Qwigglez]

Go for players who seem like they want to be here. Dinwiddie and Randle. Trade Jackson, the Bucks pick or maybe a future 1st round pick swap to the Nets for Dinwiddie. Sign Randle. Keep our 6th pick and draft Culver.

Dinwiddie / Johnson / Melton
Booker / Culver
Bridges / Warren
Oubre / Randle / Warren
Ayton / Randle

[sunsbum]

Johnson/Jerome (#32)
Booker/Culver (#6)/Melton
Warren/Bridges/Jackson
Mirotic (UFA)/Cheatham or Wooten (late second/UDFA)
Ayton/Holmes

Trade Okobo, let Oubre walk.

Not bad, but Id trade Warren If I had to choose between him and KOj. I'm also not about paying Holmes.

[Years90Suns]

I really think that Green, of the Clippers, would be the best fit for us at PF.
Not all starters have to be stars.
We are thinking about a line-up of Booker, Johnson, Ayton, Warren and a PF. All of these four are mor eknown to be offensive than deffensive players. None is a very good rebounder, a tough guy of something like that.
So we need a PF that can defend, rebound, do the dirty work and also, hit the three.
Mirotic can hit the three, but is not good at any of the other things.
Randdle is good at defending, rebounding... but lacks outside shooting efficiency.

I believe JaMychal Green could be a great fit with us next to Ayton for an appropriate price.

I love Randdle, but I believe he is not the player we need, and he probably would demand 4/5 million more per year than Green.

Johnson/XXX/Melton
Booker/Bridges
Oubre/Warren/Bridges
Green/Warren
Ayton/XXX

I prefer another player over Holmes, who is passionate and a force, but who also is so limited.
DEdmon, of the Hawks, could be a great fit if he is willing to play for 6/7 milions, alhough he probably will demand double than that.

[MathiasPW]

I really think that Green, of the Clippers, would be the best fit for us at PF.
Not all starters have to be stars.
We are thinking about a line-up of Booker, Johnson, Ayton, Warren and a PF. All of these four are mor eknown to be offensive than deffensive players. None is a very good rebounder, a tough guy of something like that.
So we need a PF that can defend, rebound, do the dirty work and also, hit the three.
Mirotic can hit the three, but is not good at any of the other things.
Randdle is good at defending, rebounding... but lacks outside shooting efficiency.

I believe JaMychal Green could be a great fit with us next to Ayton for an appropriate price.

I love Randdle, but I believe he is not the player we need, and he probably would demand 4/5 million more per year than Green.

Johnson/XXX/Melton
Booker/Bridges
Oubre/Warren/Bridges
Green/Warren
Ayton/XXX

I prefer another player over Holmes, who is passionate and a force, but who also is so limited.
DEdmon, of the Hawks, could be a great fit if he is willing to play for 6/7 milions, alhough he probably will demand double than that.

Uhm...I'm ok with JaMychal, but some of your logic is faulty. Mirotic is a pretty decent rebounder. And Randle is not good at defending, at all.

[Frank Lee]

I can’t see any logic for the Nets to trade Dinwid ... they’ve cleared cap space to go after FAs... they will either sign a PG like Irving or Walker ... or sign DLo. Doubtful they do both. They make a play for Durant and whoever he wants to play with (my bet is Kemba) then I think they will sign/trade DLo .... if course, the chronological order is going to be key. I don’t see them buying into the sell the farm for AD, unless it all comes together with KD, Kemba or Kyrie, and AD. Then who knows ????

Warren and #6 (and filler?) might get Russell... but I see little reason for the Nets to move Dinwiddy as he is a superb value. Much like TBuckets

[WeekapaugGroove]

Someone would have to really crunch the numbers but I'm not sure it's actually possible for the nets to sign both Kyrie and durrant and trade for davis. They have 5mil in dead cap from Darrin Williams and with minimum roster holds i don't think they can get to enough room.

In general it's really hard to have 3 max salaries unless you have got there by extending your own guys.

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[Frank Lee]

There would have to be a S+T with DLo for it to work... but I’m not certain if the newer S+T CBA rules allows such finagling

Either way, the Nets have positioned themselves to be front runner for KD and his choice PG, adding them to Lavert, Dinwid, Harris, and Allen ... that’s better than what NY has... and rivals the clips. If Brooklyn scored KD and Kemba, then parlayed DLo into additional assets... we’ll, Marks would have to be runaway
GMoty

Hard to say what we do as most of the significant upgrades suggested have us a peripheral players.

Side note....I wonder if we have any interest in trading for Olynyck.

[Wilber85]

I am on board for the following off-season moves

Get PG:

DLO (would it be best to sign and trade or can we sign him outright if they renounce his rights)?

Get PF:

Randle for $12-15 mill back end heavy contract
Sign bender for cheap (if possible)

Is this possible?

The odd men out would be Tyler Johnson, and Jackson


run with

DLO , Combo PG with Draft (White), Melton
Booker, Bridges
Oubre, Warren
Randle, Bender
Ayton, Bender

For all you salary cap guys. Is this even possible or not? To get both DLO and Randle? while keeping oubre.

[hollywood6964]

I think there is a chance they move green this summer. The problem is if you trade for him you probably have to pay him like 4-5 years at 25-30 mil either in an extension this summer or when he's a FA next year. IMO that's a terrifying contact for a dude with a lot of hard miles on him and someone who seems to play himself into shape every year. I really worry hes not going to age well. It's that exact worry that makes me think GS might deal him this summer.

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I would be interested in Green... wasn’t interested earlier this season, but he got himself back into shape and has been playing well. I would trade Tyler + #6 if that’s all it took and he was interested in coming here

0 chance server signs off on him and Klutch though

I'd imagine they'd want Bridges too. Would that be a deal breaker for everyone? Provided Klutch and Sarver can work together and do a new deal for Draymond. He would fit pretty well next Ayton.

It would be for me. He's an old 29 in my estimation, n we suck. Anyone looking for him to be a top guy on your team be very disappointed. He's a role guy who understands n accepts his role. An invaluable piece to a team like the warriors, but with us here be asked to do too much n he simply isn't capable. N would be overpaid.

[bwgood77]

Someone would have to really crunch the numbers but I'm not sure it's actually possible for the nets to sign both Kyrie and durrant and trade for davis. They have 5mil in dead cap from Darrin Williams and with minimum roster holds i don't think they can get to enough room.

In general it's really hard to have 3 max salaries unless you have got there by extending your own guys.

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I was thinking the same but depending on how much the two max contracts cost, if they (Nets) clear enough to sign them, and it's not too far above $70 million (or below), then they would pretty much have to send out almost all remaining salary for AD who is at $28 or so. I think it's possible but you'd have to clear the space, sign the two guys, then trade out basically anyone else making more than a few million to get AD. I saw a post from Kerrsed and thought the same of you but on further thought and looking at it, it could be possible I believe.

Most other scenarios brought up getting all 3 probably don't work. You sure wouldn't have much else except minimum or near minimum guys.

My guess is the Nets end up with Kyrie and Tobias (feeling like KD stays in GS when they pitch 'they can't win it without him'). I probably wouldn't trade all of Harris, LeVert, Dinwiddie, Kurucs, and picks for AD. They would have zero depth and nobody else if they depleted their roster.

I obviously hope KD goes east, whether it be Brooklyn or NY.

[bwgood77]

I am on board for the following off-season moves

Get PG:

DLO (would it be best to sign and trade or can we sign him outright if they renounce his rights)?

Get PF:

Randle for $12-15 mill back end heavy contract
Sign bender for cheap (if possible)

Is this possible?

The odd men out would be Tyler Johnson, and Jackson


run with

DLO , Combo PG with Draft (White), Melton
Booker, Bridges
Oubre, Warren
Randle, Bender
Ayton, Bender

For all you salary cap guys. Is this even possible or not? To get both DLO and Randle? while keeping oubre.

They will either renounce DLo or keep him. They could sign and trade him but they couldn't take any salary back..it would just be for picks. But they need to move fast and DLo could wait to make up his mind in FA and screw everything up for them. They need to clear his space fast to try and sign their targets (or when their targets say they are ready to sign).

It's really up to DLo though. There is no reason for him to do a S&T. Under old rules there might be, because he could sign a bigger contract with the Nets than elsewhere, and then get traded, but now you can't do that. The only reason for the receiving team to prefer it would be too send out money back because they don't have the cap space, but the Nets wouldn't want salary back. They barely clear two max slots by renouncing him.

There is almost zero chance he goes out in a S&T.

Your scenario probably isn't possible unless DLo's contract was less than max, maybe around $20. We have around $10 million in cap space and even if we traded Johnson and Jackson for zero salary, that adds about $26 getting us to $36. So in that case, you could maybe get DLo for 23 and Randle for 12 or something. But DLo will get a max and I don't think we trade Tyler. If anything we stretch him which only adds $13 million, but I doubt we do that either.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Someone would have to really crunch the numbers but I'm not sure it's actually possible for the nets to sign both Kyrie and durrant and trade for davis. They have 5mil in dead cap from Darrin Williams and with minimum roster holds i don't think they can get to enough room.

In general it's really hard to have 3 max salaries unless you have got there by extending your own guys.

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I was thinking the same but depending on how much the two max contracts cost, if they (Nets) clear enough to sign them, and it's not too far above $70 million (or below), then they would pretty much have to send out almost all remaining salary for AD who is at $28 or so. I think it's possible but you'd have to clear the space, sign the two guys, then trade out basically anyone else making more than a few million to get AD. I saw a post from Kerrsed and thought the same of you but on further thought and looking at it, it could be possible I believe.

Most other scenarios brought up getting all 3 probably don't work. You sure wouldn't have much else except minimum or near minimum guys.

My guess is the Nets end up with Kyrie and Tobias (feeling like KD stays in GS when they pitch 'they can't win it without him'). I probably wouldn't trade all of Harris, LeVert, Dinwiddie, Kurucs, and picks for AD. They would have zero depth and nobody else if they depleted their roster.

I obviously hope KD goes east, whether it be Brooklyn or NY.

Yeah with some careful sequencing it might work. I don't think it's really possible to do a DLo S&T with and make it happen, like it's possible if they sent DLo to a cap space team and only took back future picks and no actual salary but realistically a cap space team could just call their bluff and sign DLo to an offer sheet and if the nets match they can't sign the second max guy and DLo can't be traded right away. Basically renouncing DLo is the only path but then I'm not sure they would have the assets to make the Davis trade.

Most likely scenarios are add one max guy and keep DLo, add one max guy and trade for Davis, or let DLo go and sign 2 max guys.

Edit- ha you basically laid this out on the post above.

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[BobbieL]

Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter

Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for.


This is an area where the Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.

[Slim Charless]

I would be interested in Green... wasn’t interested earlier this season, but he got himself back into shape and has been playing well. I would trade Tyler + #6 if that’s all it took and he was interested in coming here

0 chance server signs off on him and Klutch though

I'd imagine they'd want Bridges too. Would that be a deal breaker for everyone? Provided Klutch and Sarver can work together and do a new deal for Draymond. He would fit pretty well next Ayton.

It would be for me. He's an old 29 in my estimation, n we suck. Anyone looking for him to be a top guy on your team be very disappointed. He's a role guy who understands n accepts his role. An invaluable piece to a team like the warriors, but with us here be asked to do too much n he simply isn't capable. N would be overpaid.

Ya ultimately I'd agree and to be honest short of KD telling the warriors "I'll resign if you trade Draymond" I don't see anyway they trade him to anyone they're still a contender KD or no.

If we're talking about defensive minded bigmen I'd rather have Capella anyway. Locked in deal, younger, cheaper and not annoying like Draymond.

[Crives]

Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter

Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for.


This is an area where the Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.

Read on Twitter

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[Slim Charless]

Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter

Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for. Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.

We grab our vet PG in exchange for sending the 6th onto the Pels?

Boston-Marcus Smart
LAL- Ball
BKN- Dlo

Those arent bad trades Boston would need to add on another pick, their 20th could work.

[bwgood77]

Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter

Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for.


This is an area where the Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.

Says

Griffin is pursuing a combination of assets that include an All-Star player, a young player with All-Star potential and two first-round picks, league sources said.

Not sure what we can provide here that helps.

[bwgood77]

Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter

Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for. Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.

We grab our vet PG in exchange for sending the 6th onto the Pels?

Boston-Marcus Smart
LAL- Ball
BKN- Dlo

Those arent bad trades Boston would need to add on another pick, their 20th could work.

DLo can't be traded for a draft pick in this year's draft. He's currently a free agent....until sometime in July. Draft is next week.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter

Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for.


This is an area where the Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.

Says

Griffin is pursuing a combination of assets that include an All-Star player, a young player with All-Star potential and two first-round picks, league sources said.

Not sure what we can provide here that helps.

Honestly who the hell knows what Griffin values. Let's not forget Griffin gushed over McDs offseason last summer in an interview



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[Slim Charless]

I know. As others have mentioned I wonder if some sort of prearranged S&T could be worked out. As to the pick we can always just select who the pels want then trade him later.