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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#421 » by Guest202 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:32 am

They were already going to give him the full max, so the floor of his lawyer's and agent's demands need to be THAT, plus what, another $100,000,000 in a quiet settlement? Def just cost him final 2-4 years of being a top 3 player in the world.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#422 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:32 am

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paulbball wrote:
Yeah, this. If Myers pressured Durant to play, Durant's camp needs to call this out. I understand that it was Durant's ultimate decision to play, but anyone pressuring should have their NBA career ended.


What makes it worse is that it actually isn’t ultimately Durant’s decision; it’s the coaching staff and medical team’s. Durant could have very well have begged them to play but ultimately is the coach and the medical team that has to give the go ahead. It’s why Chris Bosh,
despite desperately wanting to play, never played another NBA game after his blod clot diagnosis because everyone around him knew it could kill him. Obviously this injury isn’t on the same level but it highlights that the organization is responsible for who plays on the court.


^THIS^

In football every player that gets a concussion gets their helmet taken away by the staff. They do this because if they don’t, that player will be back in the field the next play.

Players will ALWAYS (well almost always) want to play. It’s up to the staff (medical, coaching, and front office) to keep them from it when it could seriously lead to further injury.

There is a huge difference between sending out a concussed player into a game to get slaughtered and risk permanent brain damage and a guy f-ing up his foot/leg. Worst that could happen with KD is we waste a players prime and permanent leg injury. Send in a guy with too many concussions and you are talking about him destroying his brain to the point the aren't the same person when they are 50.
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#423 » by The411 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:32 am

I feel sorry for teachers. The amount of ignorance and idiocy they have to put up with is mind boggling.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#424 » by drekwins » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:32 am

sikma42 wrote:I dont think so. His career is basically over and same questions still stand. Sad ending and we never got to see him actually lead a team
Benedict_Boozer wrote:Funny I'm a KD fan now - he showed some real heart stepping out there and balling with that injury. Respect to him, he will never be the same but he deserves props for laying it on the line.
Benedict_Boozer wrote:This helps KD's legacy IMO btw, no doubt about it.


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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#425 » by Free Rider » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:33 am

zhenyasj wrote:
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paulbball wrote:
Yeah, this. If Myers pressured Durant to play, Durant's camp needs to call this out. I understand that it was Durant's ultimate decision to play, but anyone pressuring should have their NBA career ended.


What makes it worse is that it actually isn’t ultimately Durant’s decision; it’s the coaching staff and medical team’s. Durant could have very well have begged them to play but ultimately is the coach and the medical team that has to give the go ahead. It’s why Chris Bosh,
despite desperately wanting to play, never played another NBA game after his blod clot diagnosis because everyone around him knew it could kill him. Obviously this injury isn’t on the same level but it highlights that the organization is responsible for who plays on the court.

Are you really comparing this to a blood clot that can kill a person? Seriously? KD was presented with facts by multiple doctors, not just team doctors, and made decision to play. **** happens.


Actually if you bothered to read the entire post I specifically point out that this injury isn’t on the same level particularly because I knew someone like you would fail to grasp the larger point: teams bear the responsibility for allowing players on the court or field. Chris Bosh’s example, while far more serious, is exactly why that’s the case.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#426 » by sikma42 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:33 am

The part of his career that adds to his legacy is over. He might squeak out another all star game or two, but all NBA KD is done, sadly

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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#427 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:34 am

drekwins wrote:
sikma42 wrote:I dont think so. His career is basically over and same questions still stand. Sad ending and we never got to see him actually lead a team
Benedict_Boozer wrote:Funny I'm a KD fan now - he showed some real heart stepping out there and balling with that injury. Respect to him, he will never be the same but he deserves props for laying it on the line.
Benedict_Boozer wrote:This helps KD's legacy IMO btw, no doubt about it.


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That may not be either. For the love of god you people just can't help yourselves when it comes to making these hot-take predictions with things 2-3 years down the line.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#428 » by Blacksheep25 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:34 am

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Blacksheep25 wrote:It’s amazing how much 12 minutes of basketball changes. Literally the most hated player in the NBA that I can ever recall now has everyone pulling for him. For a dude who just wants to be loved, and has been really bothered at the public sentiment of him, it’s a total turnaround.

He owns the Warriors right now. This situation is as big of a story as he wants it to be. He comes out and says “nah, I talked to everyone, al kinds of doctors, not just the teams, and they all said I was cool and I wanted to play” and it’s a non-story. He said he felt pressured and it’s franchise altering.

Then, during the same 12 minutes, he gets hurt, and the team and the fanbase that 80% of the country was pulling for looks horrible in a way people will still bring up 30 years from now.


I mean, every year you still hear about Philly fans booing and throwing snowballs at Santa Clause, and that happened 51 years ago, and is kind of funny. This wasn’t funny and no one is ever forgetting it. So much damage was done in 12 minuets, except to KD’s perception, which will be better than it’s been since Lebron went to the Heat and he resigned in OKC.

People wonder why we watch this stuff.

The team looks horrible? Why? And the country? Why? Please don't use such sweeping generalizations for an isolated incident. It makes you no better than the subset of people you are trying to shame. Every arena has those fans...every. And considering what's at stake and the emotion in the arena and occasion...someone's going to get carried away the wrong way. At this point it's done.


No, the team was fine. Classy, actually. I just meant everyone was pulling for the Raptors and between here and Twitter I saw so many people instantly flip and not want those people in the stands to get to celebrate at the end. To have a good night after that.
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Re: Has Kevin Durant's Achilles injury changed your view on his legacy with GSW? 

Post#429 » by CycklopsGT » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:35 am

Why would it change my view of his legacy?
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#430 » by Saciid11 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:35 am

thebigbird wrote:No. Durant is an adult. He made the decision to play. It's unfortunate, but he still made the decision. You can't hold the medical staff liable for this.



If that is the case then why was everyone on Kawhi for refusing to play last year with a Spurs, or better why where people questioning the extent of Durant's injury .. questioning his heart and desire to play.
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Re: Shams: Durant Has Achilles Injury 

Post#431 » by PrinceV » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:36 am

Also, GS playing these mind games on KD return should also be noted. The drama they put themselves in didn’t help them in any way.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#432 » by BallSacBounce » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:36 am

Guest202 wrote:They were already going to give him the full max, so the floor of his lawyer's and agent's demands need to be THAT, plus what, another $100,000,000 in a quiet settlement? Def just cost him final 2-4 years of being a top 3 player in the world.

Tell you what, if the Warriors want to just flat out pass and not offer anything, Durant and his lawyers will be good with that.

$100,000,000 on top, lmfao.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#433 » by Dn4sty » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
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What makes it worse is that it actually isn’t ultimately Durant’s decision; it’s the coaching staff and medical team’s. Durant could have very well have begged them to play but ultimately is the coach and the medical team that has to give the go ahead. It’s why Chris Bosh,
despite desperately wanting to play, never played another NBA game after his blod clot diagnosis because everyone around him knew it could kill him. Obviously this injury isn’t on the same level but it highlights that the organization is responsible for who plays on the court.


^THIS^

In football every player that gets a concussion gets their helmet taken away by the staff. They do this because if they don’t, that player will be back in the field the next play.

Players will ALWAYS (well almost always) want to play. It’s up to the staff (medical, coaching, and front office) to keep them from it when it could seriously lead to further injury.

There is a huge difference between sending out a concussed player into a game to get slaughtered and risk permanent brain damage and a guy f-ing up his foot/leg. Worst that could happen with KD is we waste a players prime and permanent leg injury. Send in a guy with too many concussions and you are talking about him destroying his brain to the point the aren't the same person when they are 50.



Well of course, but the point is that players will almost always choose to play when given the chance. There has to be people around the team that keep them from doing it. Football concussions was just an example of a team doing that for the player. Multiple people have said that Warriors have no blame, because KD chose to play tonight. My point was that players will almost always chose to play.
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#434 » by Saciid11 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 am

13th Man wrote:KD got pressured into playing by the "Frustrated Warriors". They owe him big time.


Exactly, Warriors got desperate after game 4 and needed Durant if they had any hope of beating Raptors
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#435 » by Raps in 4 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 am

Sad news for NBA fans.

We all loved to **** on him, but he was a fantastic player.

**** the Warriors for trying to pressure him to come back early. Hopefully now people understand why Kawhi told the Spurs to **** off when they tried to force him to play with his injury.
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Re: Shams: Durant Has Achilles Injury 

Post#436 » by poomaster » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 am

BVB24 wrote:Almost certain it’s torn. Unreal. Terrible turn of events for KD. Genuinely feel bad for the dude.


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That has to be some of the fakest acting I've ever seen. Myers is going to be fighting for his job after this.
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#437 » by everdiso » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 am

Pretty gross that they cleared him.

Warriors better max him out now.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#438 » by Blacksheep25 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 am

mtcan wrote:
Blacksheep25 wrote:It’s amazing how much 12 minutes of basketball changes. Literally the most hated player in the NBA that I can ever recall now has everyone pulling for him. For a dude who just wants to be loved, and has been really bothered at the public sentiment of him, it’s a total turnaround.

He owns the Warriors right now. This situation is as big of a story as he wants it to be. He comes out and says “nah, I talked to everyone, al kinds of doctors, not just the teams, and they all said I was cool and I wanted to play” and it’s a non-story. He said he felt pressured and it’s franchise altering.

Then, during the same 12 minutes, he gets hurt, and the team and the fanbase that 80% of the country was pulling for looks horrible in a way people will still bring up 30 years from now.


I mean, every year you still hear about Philly fans booing and throwing snowballs at Santa Clause, and that happened 51 years ago, and is kind of funny. This wasn’t funny and no one is ever forgetting it. So much damage was done in 12 minuets, except to KD’s perception, which will be better than it’s been since Lebron went to the Heat and he resigned in OKC.

People wonder why we watch this stuff.

The team looks horrible? Why? And the country? Why? Please don't use such sweeping generalizations for an isolated incident. It makes you no better than the subset of people you are trying to shame. Every arena has those fans...every. And considering what's at stake and the emotion in the arena and occasion...someone's going to get carried away the wrong way. At this point it's done.



Clearly I worded that poorly. I meant 80% of the US was pulling for the Raptors, and the fans looked so bad, that it just soured a lot of people instantly.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#439 » by drekwins » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:38 am

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sikma42 wrote:I dont think so. His career is basically over and same questions still stand. Sad ending and we never got to see him actually lead a team

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His career isn't over. His superstardom is.


That may not be either. For the love of god you people just can't help yourselves when it comes to making these hot-take predictions with things 2-3 years down the line.


He's not going to step on the court again until he's 32. That's a fact. That's a difficult age to build yourself back up to the level he's at. You don't just heal and then BAM, you're elite KD. It takes the compounding of work upon work upon work until he gets to that level again. He's an elite shooter so he has a better shot than most but age is not on his side.
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#440 » by sikma42 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:38 am

It depends on what they told him and the applicable standards of care. If they deviated from them and KD relied on it, then they could have issues. If they beat home that there was no chance to make it worst, as Kerr was heard saying as per reports...then they could have issues
Patches Perry wrote:There should be a high bar for evidence if you want to hold them liable. It's possible everything looked good, he felt good, was moving well, wanted to play, and this is just an unfortunate situation.


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