Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking

[Oscirus]

Hard to build around him when you have no picks, no cap, no prospects.

When you trade everything for one player, you are always going to play catch-up for the next 3 years. You just have to ask yourself if this one player is worth it or not.

We didn’t trade everything. Don’t ever forget the Bargs trade

The thing that killed us besides that move was that we ruined our cap flexibility by opting into Billups. Opt out, you don’t need to use the amnesty on him, you have it to use on Amare, you have a lot of cap space in 2013 coming off the best year we’ve had in over a decade.

Spilled milk now and you have to hope lessons were learned on all facets.

Exactly. Look at what we actually gave up for a prime Melo. It was considered a steal for us then, even by the Nuggets GM (Ujiri) who made the deal. We f'd up building around Melo with the Billups/Chandler/A'mare stuff. Look at the Harden deal, the Kawhi deal, etc. Generally when you get by far the best player in the deal, you do the deal. Now if the Pels ask for like 5 firsts, then you walk, but if it just costs us RJ, Dallas picks, Knox, DSJ, even Mitch, it has to be done. Then you use the cap space and future picks wisely.

Isaiah got the best player in the deal every trade, how did that work out for him?

[Mr Rabbit]

I’m unhappy, Scrappy

[iLLmatic860]

Im done arguing about keeping the kids. People rather go the build your whole team with free agents route. I already posted and said the last 20 plus championship teams have a homegrown star player.

Times have changed now. Players have more power and will continue to take advantage in the future.

But we def should not trade our young assets now.

[K_ick_God]

This probably hurts the Pelicans too. Sure they don’t like this. Takes the urgency out of it at the very least for the Knicks.

[shtolky]

We didn’t trade everything. Don’t ever forget the Bargs trade

The thing that killed us besides that move was that we ruined our cap flexibility by opting into Billups. Opt out, you don’t need to use the amnesty on him, you have it to use on Amare, you have a lot of cap space in 2013 coming off the best year we’ve had in over a decade.

Spilled milk now and you have to hope lessons were learned on all facets.

Exactly. Look at what we actually gave up for a prime Melo. It was considered a steal for us then, even by the Nuggets GM (Ujiri) who made the deal. We f'd up building around Melo with the Billups/Chandler/A'mare stuff. Look at the Harden deal, the Kawhi deal, etc. Generally when you get by far the best player in the deal, you do the deal. Now if the Pels ask for like 5 firsts, then you walk, but if it just costs us RJ, Dallas picks, Knox, DSJ, even Mitch, it has to be done. Then you use the cap space and future picks wisely.

Isaiah got the best player in the deal every trade, how did that work out for him?

I said generally. I also said if we had to give up 5 firsts, walk away. Isiah never walked away. Isiah also never acquired a guy like AD.

[3toheadmelo]

#Rebuild

[F N 11]

Im done arguing about keeping the kids. People rather go the build your whole team with free agents route. I already posted and said the last 20 plus championship teams have a homegrown star player.

The odds any of the kids we have become stars is slim to none

You know what’s won titles for as long as the nba has been alive? Top of the league players.

The idea that we wouldn’t sign or trade for these players to keep our own players who might not even be good nba players never mind Stars is extremely dumb.

Yeah lets trade for a guy who can come here next year while keeping assets just to have him a year early. I'm clearly not dumb or the trade would be done already.

[Capn'O]

Yeah - I just mentioned this in another thread. It's pretty crazy that it took this for him to become a sympathetic figure again. People are really questioning where their own priorities were today.

[Strick]

DSJ
RJ Hampton
RJ Barrett
Knox
Mitch

Oh I forgot about RJ Hampton being a possibility next year. He's got WILD bounce

I wish Jalen Green could reclassify. That kid looks like he will be a problem. Two first rounders 2021 makes it nice!

[Capn'O]

#Rebuild

Randle and Brogdon offseason Re-up Mario.

[DowNY]

AD might as well take the Knicks off his list

[Oscirus]

Let the Lakers trade for AD. I still get the feeling the only reason why AD picked us was that he knew we didn't have the assets to make a viable trade happen for the pelicans.

[EricAnderson]

Im done arguing about keeping the kids. People rather go the build your whole team with free agents route. I already posted and said the last 20 plus championship teams have a homegrown star player.

The odds any of the kids we have become stars is slim to none

You know what’s won titles for as long as the nba has been alive? Top of the league players.

The idea that we wouldn’t sign or trade for these players to keep our own players who might not even be good nba players never mind Stars is extremely dumb.

Yeah lets trade for a guy who can come here next year while keeping assets just to have him a year early. I'm clearly not dumb or the trade would be done already.

What guarantee is there he signs here if they trade him somewhere else? And the trade didn’t happen already because the Pelicans haven’t made the trade yet. They are gonna do it right before the draft.

I agree now without Kd it doesn’t make much sense. But if KD was coming and another star then the trade would have been a no brainer

[blanko]

Let’s not forget Kobe was 35 in 2013, the year he tore his tendon


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No one forgot. Makes no difference. It's the most brutal and worst injury for a basketball player. Your body changes when your Achilles tears. He won't be the same player.


On a scale from 1 to 100, an ACL is like a 40. An Achilles is 100.

There are different types of Achilles teats, Kobe had a complete tear. We don’t know what the extent of KDs tear is. Let’s find out first the we can make moves accordingly. If it is a minor tear then it’s a different story.


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[BowlRips]

Lol Bovada put up their updated KD Odds:

Knicks -175
Warriors +210
Nets +700

Lets start the KD injury watch thread... O/U March 11th

[EricAnderson]

#Rebuild

Randle and Brogdon offseason Re-up Mario.

A bunch of mediocre players and FA signings. That team could potentially be a 9 seed in like 3 years. How exciting!!!!

[dakomish23]

Exactly. Look at what we actually gave up for a prime Melo. It was considered a steal for us then, even by the Nuggets GM (Ujiri) who made the deal. We f'd up building around Melo with the Billups/Chandler/A'mare stuff. Look at the Harden deal, the Kawhi deal, etc. Generally when you get by far the best player in the deal, you do the deal. Now if the Pels ask for like 5 firsts, then you walk, but if it just costs us RJ, Dallas picks, Knox, DSJ, even Mitch, it has to be done. Then you use the cap space and future picks wisely.

Isaiah got the best player in the deal every trade, how did that work out for him?

I said generally. I also said if we had to give up 5 firsts, walk away. Isiah never walked away. Isiah also never acquired a guy like AD.

Hell, he didn't even acquire an Amare level guy.

[BowlRips]

Maybe KD's injury isn't a full tear, his time frame is shorter, this becomes final straw between him and Golden State and solidifies his intent to sign with NYK

[F N 11]

Let the Lakers trade for AD. I still get the feeling the only reason why AD picked us was that he knew we didn't have the assets to make a viable trade happen for the pelicans.

Who hasnt used us as leverage...He's represented by Klutch who could care less about the knicks organization.

[F N 11]

Lol Bovada put up their updated KD Odds:

Knicks -175
Warriors +210
Nets +700

Lets start the KD injury watch thread... O/U March 11th

Well damn lols