2019 NBA draft part deux

[jpatrick]

To me, he's the obvious pick if somehow he's still there.

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He won't even make it to Atlanta's picks, in my opinion. He is literally the youngest guy in the draft, teams near that top have to gamble on this kind of player (my guess is Cleveland or Phoenix does).

I think he goes at 8 if he makes I that far. Good measurements, very good athlete, apparently shooting the heck out of it during workout, already playing against grown men earning real minutes, and youngest player in the draft by far. If he somehow gets to 11, he’s the guy.

I have a feeling it’s going to be Little, based on who I think will be left, as long as he shoots well in front of Rosas.

I think the top 9 go: Zion, Morant, Barrett, Culver, Garland, Hunter, White, Reddish, Doumbaya. Hayes may be in that top 9 but true centers are so devalued he may end up slipping. I don’t see us taking him either because he’s a poor fit with Hayes in a modern offense, which I’m convinced Rosas will stress.

[Klomp]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be stunned if we stay at 11.

[wolfen]

Just over a week until the draft, workout warriors are showing off their dribbling and dunking skills, burying unguarded 3 pointers one after another. Wish we could fast forward to draft day. Today's thoughts...

-The top 10 players from almost every draft class are a collection of players not ranked in order in mock drafts.

-Ky Bowman is a must get for me. He's strong, he can dribble, shoot, and pass, and can play D. If Kyle Lowry can be a starter at 6-2 then so can Bowman (who has a 6-7 wingspan). At worst he's going to be a damn good backup PG who has a great offensive package. You cannot teach the gifts that he has with the ball in his hands.

-Because of statement number one above, players like Grant Williams (everyone really needs to read the Stepein's recent article on him - https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/09/draft-notes-grant-williams-chosen-24-40-drafts-second-best-play/), PJ Washington, Nickiel Alexander-Walker, Cam Johnson, Mfiondu Kabengele, Luka Samanic, Chuma Okeke, and Louis King (guys who will go in the 15-35 range) have just as good of odds to be legit nba players as more "sexy" or highly ranked players like Reddish, Little, Doumbouya, Hachimura, Clarke, and others.

-If Grant Williams DOES reach his potential and becomes the ridiculously efficient and multi-faceted player he could be, a draft nabbing Williams (in a trade-down if possible) and Bowman would be awesome and would address some serious needs.

[KGdaBom]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be stunned if we stay at 11.

I think teams staying in their draft slot happens about 80% of the time. You are bucking quite a trend to be stunned. If I were a gambling man which I am I would bet on staying put over moving. Should we have a $1 bet on this Klomp? I won't even make you give me odds.

[KGdaBom]

To me, he's the obvious pick if somehow he's still there.

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He won't even make it to Atlanta's picks, in my opinion. He is literally the youngest guy in the draft, teams near that top have to gamble on this kind of player (my guess is Cleveland or Phoenix does).

I think he goes at 8 if he makes I that far. Good measurements, very good athlete, apparently shooting the heck out of it during workout, already playing against grown men earning real minutes, and youngest player in the draft by far. If he somehow gets to 11, he’s the guy.

I have a feeling it’s going to be Little, based on who I think will be left, as long as he shoots well in front of Rosas.

I think the top 9 go: Zion, Morant, Barrett, Culver, Garland, Hunter, White, Reddish, Doumbaya. Hayes may be in that top 9 but true centers are so devalued he may end up slipping. I don’t see us taking him either because he’s a poor fit with Hayes in a modern offense, which I’m convinced Rosas will stress.

I personally think Rosas is the type of GM that will go more for players who have shown the ability to play well more than guys that have some traits indicating they might be good some day. Hope we get the best of both worlds. A guy who has played well and has traits that indicate improvement down the road. Draft is just over a week away. Go Wolves.

[remi_222]

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11min of Sekou's highlights ! No more debate, if hes available he has to be in Minny

[KGdaBom]

Just over a week until the draft, workout warriors are showing off their dribbling and dunking skills, burying unguarded 3 pointers one after another. Wish we could fast forward to draft day. Today's thoughts...

-The top 10 players from almost every draft class are a collection of players not ranked in order in mock drafts.

-Ky Bowman is a must get for me. He's strong, he can dribble, shoot, and pass, and can play D. If Kyle Lowry can be a starter at 6-2 then so can Bowman (who has a 6-7 wingspan). At worst he's going to be a damn good backup PG who has a great offensive package. You cannot teach the gifts that he has with the ball in his hands.

-Because of statement number one above, players like Grant Williams (everyone really needs to read the Stepein's recent article on him - https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/09/draft-notes-grant-williams-chosen-24-40-drafts-second-best-play/), PJ Washington, Nickiel Alexander-Walker, Cam Johnson, Mfiondu Kabengele, Luka Samanic, Chuma Okeke, and Louis King (guys who will go in the 15-35 range) have just as good of odds to be legit nba players as more "sexy" or highly ranked players like Reddish, Little, Doumbouya, Hachimura, Clarke, and others.

-If Grant Williams DOES reach his potential and becomes the ridiculously efficient and multi-faceted player he could be, a draft nabbing Williams (in a trade-down if possible) and Bowman would be awesome and would address some serious needs.

Isn't Williams like a slightly smaller Paul Milsap?

[KGdaBom]

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11min of Sekou's highlights ! No more debate, if hes available he has to be in Minny

He'd be a solid choice, but plenty of debate IMO.

[Mattya]

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11min of Sekou's highlights ! No more debate, if hes available he has to be in Minny

Bringing back Deng to mentor him would be almost too perfect for him.

[Slim Tubby]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be stunned if we stay at 11.

Klomp (and shrink)...in your opinion, are we more apt to try and trade up or trade back? If Doumbouya and Clarke are gone before #11, I would gladly send #11 to BOS for #14 and #22 if that offer was on the table. We might have to put KGdaBom on suicide watch with all the recent buzz about Clarke going to PHO at #6.

[Klomp]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be stunned if we stay at 11.

Klomp (and shrink)...in your opinion, are we more apt to try and trade up or trade back? If Doumbouya and Clarke are gone before #11, I would gladly send #11 to BOS for #14 and #22 if that offer was on the table. We might have to put KGdaBom on suicide watch with all the recent buzz about Clarke going to PHO at #6.

Almost any other year I'd say trade down, but with where we're situated and the guys who've been working out I think there's a greater chance than normal of moving up.

[Slim Tubby]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be stunned if we stay at 11.

Klomp (and shrink)...in your opinion, are we more apt to try and trade up or trade back? If Doumbouya and Clarke are gone before #11, I would gladly send #11 to BOS for #14 and #22 if that offer was on the table. We might have to put KGdaBom on suicide watch with all the recent buzz about Clarke going to PHO at #6.

Almost any other year I'd say trade down, but with where we're situated and the guys who've been working out I think there's a greater chance than normal of moving up.

I really like Saric but if moving him with #11 to get up high enough to grab Garland or White, I would 100% endorse that type of trade.

[KGdaBom]

The more I think about it, the more I'd be stunned if we stay at 11.

Klomp (and shrink)...in your opinion, are we more apt to try and trade up or trade back? If Doumbouya and Clarke are gone before #11, I would gladly send #11 to BOS for #14 and #22 if that offer was on the table. We might have to put KGdaBom on suicide watch with all the recent buzz about Clarke going to PHO at #6.

I hadn't heard that Buzz. No suicide watch would be needed. If Clarke goes 6 he could push Hayes, Doumbouya, or Hopefully Hunter to 11. Just not Reddish please.

[wolfen]

Just over a week until the draft, workout warriors are showing off their dribbling and dunking skills, burying unguarded 3 pointers one after another. Wish we could fast forward to draft day. Today's thoughts...

-The top 10 players from almost every draft class are a collection of players not ranked in order in mock drafts.

-Ky Bowman is a must get for me. He's strong, he can dribble, shoot, and pass, and can play D. If Kyle Lowry can be a starter at 6-2 then so can Bowman (who has a 6-7 wingspan). At worst he's going to be a damn good backup PG who has a great offensive package. You cannot teach the gifts that he has with the ball in his hands.

-Because of statement number one above, players like Grant Williams (everyone really needs to read the Stepein's recent article on him - https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/09/draft-notes-grant-williams-chosen-24-40-drafts-second-best-play/), PJ Washington, Nickiel Alexander-Walker, Cam Johnson, Mfiondu Kabengele, Luka Samanic, Chuma Okeke, and Louis King (guys who will go in the 15-35 range) have just as good of odds to be legit nba players as more "sexy" or highly ranked players like Reddish, Little, Doumbouya, Hachimura, Clarke, and others.

-If Grant Williams DOES reach his potential and becomes the ridiculously efficient and multi-faceted player he could be, a draft nabbing Williams (in a trade-down if possible) and Bowman would be awesome and would address some serious needs.

Isn't Williams like a slightly smaller Paul Milsap?

Hell yes, I like that comp. Millsap is a 4X all-star and has been part of all defensive teams. If I knew GW would be as good as Millsap, being a similar type of player, I'd TRADE UP to get him. 2, maybe 3 guys in the lotto have all-star talent, agreeable, all-star talent. But the Millsap comp, I like it. They are built the same and do a lot of the same things. GW is an inch shorter, and I think he'll play both the 3 and the 4 in the nba and will have a chance to guard more positions than Millsap. 14 ppg, 7 rpg, 3 apg (very good passer), over 50% overall FG percentage, I think he'll shoot 34% or better from behind the arc, with a low volume at the beginning of his career, and that will grow. Plus he hustles, is a leader, is physical, and has off the charts instincts both offensively and defensively and will NEVER kill you with bonehead plays, turnovers, or jacking up shots he shouldn't. He has traits of Millsap, Daymond Green, and Jae Crowder. I see him being a better Jae Crowder I would say, with a few more tools in the bag.

[Klomp]

Could be Millsap, but could also be Craig Smith.

[alabamawolf]

Grant also has a little PJ Tucker in his game too. The biggest questions with Grant is if he will be able to move his feet well enough on the perimeter to switch and will his outside shot continue to develop. He will always have physical limitations but he’s improved so much year to year that I’d bet on him becoming a good player. He’s been the best player in the SEC the last 2 years despite being an unheralded recruit

[Klomp]

I don't see any SF versatility in his game, which makes a comp to PJ Tucker or Jae Crowder void in my mind.

[Domejandro]

Given Rosas' knowledge and affinity for utilizing the G-League, you have to think trading up for Sekou Doumbouya has to be on the table.

[alabamawolf]

I don't see any SF versatility in his game, which makes a comp to PJ Tucker or Jae Crowder void in my mind.

PJ doesn’t play the 3 a lot and Grant is a much more versatile offensive player. He’s a great team defender that relies on his extremely high iq. Depending on the matchup I think he can play some 3

[Krapinsky]

I am far from sold on Sekou. He seems to shy from contact and has a pretty loose handle. He's young enough that the upside is still there, but this guy is a few years away from cracking someone's rotation.