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Post#581 » by dcee101 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:37 pm

The Warrior wrote:True but to elaborate on this point, one pretty disgusting reaction from a few fans who obviously reacted terribly in the heat of the moment, will not put a blemish on our city or fanbase. They shouldn't have reacted that way to begin with, but again this one reaction doesn't change our image on the grand stage. Now if it happens continuously it's no longer an abberation and an argument can be made that it's a reflection on the city.

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Most people getting upset may have very well had the same reaction. The arena was amped up, people were going nuts.. Nobody knew he tore his Achilles or was seriously injured. At the very same moment they probably realized that if Durant was injured the odds of them winning he championship that night just went from questionable to probable. This wasn’t the 43rd game of the season, it was a potential championship clinching moment.

So enough with all these apologies. I don’t think a single fan should apologize for having a twitch like reaction save for the people waving him goodbye that were taunting him.
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Post#582 » by baller16 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:52 pm

"I was rooting for the Raps until I saw this". Yea just GTFO

You were never rooting for us and you know it. Stop acting like this is what tipped you over the edge. This was the moment you guys were waiting for so you could truly justify your agenda and lash out at our fanbase. Fans cheering on injuries have happened across all teams in all sports throughout history. Yea it sucks, but there's nothing you can really do about it. You gotta move on and learn
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Post#583 » by mtron929 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:56 pm

I think all of this boils down to the fact a lot of the fans normalize these kind of injuries and do not think that they are a big deal. For example, if KD had suddenly fainted face first during a game, I suspect that NO ONE (except for few psychos) would have cheered. I will go one step further. I suspect that a lot of the fans still don't care about some of these common (but severe) sports injuries, but pretend to care because it is kind of socially unacceptable to openly cheer for someone's injuries.
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Post#584 » by 13th Man » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:57 pm

I don't agree with the poor reaction from the crowd but I can understand the mob mentality reaction under these circumstances. For one, don't forget that people paid on average $6,000 per ticket to see the game. The stakes are very high and all the fans really care about at the time is winning the championship at home. Many of these rich fans aren't even true basketball fans, they just hopped on the bandwagon and want to be part of history.

So when KD initially went down, I think the fans see him a merely an object or asset being removed from the game which would improve our chances of winning. When Klay got hurt with a minor hamstring injury and was to miss one game I had a similar mindset. I said, good; one less asset for us to contend with. It was actually out of respect since I know how dangerous a healthy Klay is. People took it the wrong way to say that I was classless and cheering on Klay's injury which I wasn't. It was all about winning which could be construed in a very bad light. Anyhow, when the fans realized that wow KD is really hurt, they came to their senses that this is a person that we're dealing with here, not an asset.

I'm not condoning this type of behaviour. Just making sense of the mob mentality that gets to us and how the passion of winning can override the human element of sports. I shake my head at all the fans on the GB that are unable to view this with an open mind, they just want to create a narrative of Canadians being evil and POS fans. Basically, I think it comes down to jealousy mostly.
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Post#585 » by RealDeal888 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:59 pm

I'm already starting to move on from this topic.
Let's just all pray KD heals gracefully and focus on the real issue
THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS MAKING HIM PLAY!!
ThIs situation should of never happened in the first place. It doesn't excuse the stupid fans cheering, but this the real issue.
MOOOOOOVING ON
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Post#586 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:01 pm

baller16 wrote:"I was rooting for the Raps until I saw this". Yea just GTFO

You were never rooting for us and you know it. Stop acting like this is what tipped you over the edge. This was the moment you guys were waiting for so you could truly justify your agenda and lash out at our fanbase. Fans cheering on injuries have happened across all teams in all sports throughout history. Yea it sucks, but there's nothing you can really do about it. You gotta move on and learn


I actually was rooting for the underdogs - the Raps - before this. But ok.
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Post#587 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:02 pm

The fact that people are still trying to rationalize this is crazy. Just admit a lot of fans were pretty despicable that night. Move on. People do crappy stuff sometimes.

But this attempt to try to rationalize that behavior is more disgusting, imo.
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Post#588 » by 13th Man » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:05 pm

zero2hero wrote:The fact that people are still trying to rationalize this is crazy. Just admit a lot of fans were pretty despicable that night. Move on. People do crappy stuff sometimes.

But this attempt to try to rationalize that behavior is more disgusting, imo.


If you see this as only being a black and white issue, that's your prerogative. Many people including SAS and Max Kellerman can understand where the fan's mindset were at.

It seems as though many folks here desperately want to paint Canadian fans as evil and won't accept anything less.
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Post#589 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:09 pm

13th Man wrote:
zero2hero wrote:The fact that people are still trying to rationalize this is crazy. Just admit a lot of fans were pretty despicable that night. Move on. People do crappy stuff sometimes.

But this attempt to try to rationalize that behavior is more disgusting, imo.


If you see this as only being a black and white issue, that's your prerogative. Many people including SAS and Max Kellerman can understand where the fan's mindset were at.

It seems as though many folks here desperately want to paint Canadian fans as evil and won't accept anything less.


I understand their argument, but if you are cheering on another man getting seriously hurt just because it helps the chance your sportsball team can win a game, then I think you're somewhat deranged. That's just my opinion.
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Post#590 » by 13th Man » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:14 pm

zero2hero wrote:
13th Man wrote:
zero2hero wrote:The fact that people are still trying to rationalize this is crazy. Just admit a lot of fans were pretty despicable that night. Move on. People do crappy stuff sometimes.

But this attempt to try to rationalize that behavior is more disgusting, imo.


If you see this as only being a black and white issue, that's your prerogative. Many people including SAS and Max Kellerman can understand where the fan's mindset were at.

It seems as though many folks here desperately want to paint Canadian fans as evil and won't accept anything less.


I understand their argument, but if you are cheering on another man getting seriously hurt just because it helps the chance your sportsball team can win a game, then I think you're somewhat deranged. That's just my opinion.


As cited in this thread, this happens everywhere including when the Warriors fans were chanting while Fred was lying on the floor bleeding. This one here happened to be maginified 100x because it is KD and knowing the end result which nobody could have foreseen at that moment.
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Post#591 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:17 pm

13th Man wrote:
zero2hero wrote:
13th Man wrote:
If you see this as only being a black and white issue, that's your prerogative. Many people including SAS and Max Kellerman can understand where the fan's mindset were at.

It seems as though many folks here desperately want to paint Canadian fans as evil and won't accept anything less.


I understand their argument, but if you are cheering on another man getting seriously hurt just because it helps the chance your sportsball team can win a game, then I think you're somewhat deranged. That's just my opinion.


As cited in this thread, this happens everywhere including when the Warriors fans were chanting while Fred was lying on the floor bleeding. This one here happened to be maginified 100x because it is KD and knowing the end result which nobody could have foreseen at that moment.


... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.
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Post#592 » by dcee101 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:22 pm

zero2hero wrote:
13th Man wrote:
zero2hero wrote:
I understand their argument, but if you are cheering on another man getting seriously hurt just because it helps the chance your sportsball team can win a game, then I think you're somewhat deranged. That's just my opinion.


As cited in this thread, this happens everywhere including when the Warriors fans were chanting while Fred was lying on the floor bleeding. This one here happened to be maginified 100x because it is KD and knowing the end result which nobody could have foreseen at that moment.


... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.


Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?
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Post#593 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:25 pm

dcee101 wrote:
zero2hero wrote:
13th Man wrote:
As cited in this thread, this happens everywhere including when the Warriors fans were chanting while Fred was lying on the floor bleeding. This one here happened to be maginified 100x because it is KD and knowing the end result which nobody could have foreseen at that moment.


... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.


Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?


Where did I say that the entire fanbase should apologize?

My example was used to criticize the level of rationalizing going on that I'm seeing. You can disavow certain fanbases or people you do not associate with. Certainly better than trying to justify bad people's actions.
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Post#594 » by dcee101 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:28 pm

zero2hero wrote:
dcee101 wrote:
zero2hero wrote:
... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.


Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?


Where did I say that the entire fanbase should apologize?

My example was used to criticize the level of rationalizing going on that I'm seeing. You can disavow certain fanbases or people you do not associate with. Certainly better than trying to justify bad people's actions.


If the Wizards, a long suffering franchise had the same thing happen on their home court the reaction would have been the same and you may have joined in yourself. Don’t judge what you don’t know. Compared to how European fans treat opposing players in soccer this is tame.

Stop judging people for displaying primal human nature reactions in a fanatical group setting.
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Post#595 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:29 pm

dcee101 wrote:
zero2hero wrote:
dcee101 wrote:
Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?


Where did I say that the entire fanbase should apologize?

My example was used to criticize the level of rationalizing going on that I'm seeing. You can disavow certain fanbases or people you do not associate with. Certainly better than trying to justify bad people's actions.


If the Wizards, a long suffering franchise had the same thing happen on their home court the reaction would have been the same and you may have joined in yourself. Don’t judge what you don’t know. Compared to how European fans treat opposing players in soccer this is tame.

Stop judging people for displaying primal human nature reactions in a fanatical group setting.


No, I wouldn't have joined in. Thanks for the assumption though.
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Post#596 » by dcee101 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:31 pm

Just for reference , Cleveland Browns fans in 2008 cheered when their starting QB who they hated, Derek Anderson, got injured during a home game! They also cheered when Dan Marino popped his Achilles. Toronto fans were nowhere close to being as bad.
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Post#597 » by bubonicphoniks » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:36 pm

Because it doesn't cost anything and it's a nice gesture. God, why are people so hard headed.

Something like "I'm a Raptors fan. I wasn't cheering but wow I'm sorry some of us acted like that"

Is that really that hard to do?

Jeez. Have fun fighting your insecurities.

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zero2hero wrote:
13th Man wrote:
As cited in this thread, this happens everywhere including when the Warriors fans were chanting while Fred was lying on the floor bleeding. This one here happened to be maginified 100x because it is KD and knowing the end result which nobody could have foreseen at that moment.


... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.


Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?


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Post#598 » by dcee101 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:40 pm

bubonicphoniks wrote:Because it doesn't cost anything and it's a nice gesture. God, why are people so hard headed.

Something like "I'm a Raptors fan. I wasn't cheering but wow I'm sorry some of us acted like that"

Is that really that hard to do?

Jeez. Have fun fighting your insecurities.

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zero2hero wrote:
... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.


Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?


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Again if they didn’t participate in the cheering why should they apologize for the actions of others? Should Raider fans collectively apologize when a few thugs beat the snot out of 49er fans?
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Post#599 » by zero2hero » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:41 pm

bubonicphoniks wrote:Because it doesn't cost anything and it's a nice gesture. God, why are people so hard headed.

Something like "I'm a Raptors fan. I wasn't cheering but wow I'm sorry some of us acted like that"

Is that really that hard to do?

Jeez. Have fun fighting your insecurities.

dcee101 wrote:
zero2hero wrote:
... and those fans are pathetic too.

Have we forgotten in this world how to unconditionally apologize? Some people are bad people. We are sorry for those bad people. Simple. If your line of argument is continued rationalized, I've already stated my opinion on that and there's no need to go any further.


Why should anyone apologize for the actions of other people?
So because of some bad apples the entire fanbase here should apologize? Are you implying some sort of collective punishment ?


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Dude, I seriously don't get it. Am I taking crazy pills here? Lmao. If you have to defend a bad act by bringing up other bad acts that aren't pertinent to the conversation (at the least the point I, myself, not anyone else, was specifically trying to make), then it's time to take a look in the mirror and possibly take some time away from spectating sports.
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Post#600 » by spacemonkey » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:42 pm

Anybody who cheers on an injury is scum.

I wouldn't litigate or play whataboutism if a fan of the team I'm a fan of cheered an injury to an opposing player. I'd condemn that fan.

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