Kevin Durant Achilles Injury Mega-Thread (Keep discussion here, please)

[gmoney411]

He has an agent who looks out for his interests and personal doctor(s) who were involved in this process. EVERYONE who is independent of the team gave him a green light...so stop with the conjecture.

This seems like conjecture.

Which part, that independent doctor(s) were involved in the process along with team doctors? Myers said that and it was reported by RJ as well, I believe. So they are either telling the truth or lying, but it's not conjecture.

If that's the standard for something not being conjecture then statements about him not being ready to play isn't either. Jalen Rose reported Friday and again today that KD wasn't basketball ready.

[bargnanimvp]

Im genuinely shocked Westbrook hasnt posted any condolences on social media yet, if at all.

This is such a weird statement to make. Why do you need him to post on social media? You don't think he personally called him?

Wait you can still call people personally in 2019? I thought all communication had to happen via public social media now?

[zhenyasj]

This seems like conjecture.

Which part, that independent doctor(s) were involved in the process along with team doctors? Myers said that and it was reported by RJ as well, I believe. So they are either telling the truth or lying, but it's not conjecture.

If that's the standard for something not being conjecture then statements about him not being ready to play isn't either. Jalen Rose reported Friday and again today that KD wasn't basketball ready.

Myers is a GM who gets reports from team doctors and KD's doctors, so him speaking is not conjecture. Rose spoke about Friday's practice; he didn't speak about Sunday's or Monday's practices. Are you really saying that their access to information is the same and their opinions on the matter are based on the same information?

[gmoney411]

Which part, that independent doctor(s) were involved in the process along with team doctors? Myers said that and it was reported by RJ as well, I believe. So they are either telling the truth or lying, but it's not conjecture.

If that's the standard for something not being conjecture then statements about him not being ready to play isn't either. Jalen Rose reported Friday and again today that KD wasn't basketball ready.

Myers is a GM who gets reports from team doctors and KD's doctors, so him speaking is not conjecture. Rose spoke about Friday's practice; he didn't speak about Sunday's or Monday's practices. Are you really saying that their access to information is the same and their opinions on the matter are based on the same information?

I'm saying that you saying EVERYONE outside of the team cleared KD based on statements from Meyers and RJ is conjecture. Those statements mean as much as Jalen's.

[MrDollarBills]

this is why i dont believe the vast majority of these analyst with they're click bait predictions
they say this stuff for ratings, they mention 100 different scenarios, until its actual ink to paper for the contract signing.
Take virtually everything they say with a grain of salt, Wonder if Nets regret clearing that cap space and sacrificing those two 1st round picks before the finals ended?

No, because regardless of Kevin Durant the Nets wanted to have cap flexibility this summer...can't do that when Allen Crabbe is sucking up 18 million in space.

as a nets fan would u still sign KD if you know he'll be out for a year at minimum before hitting the court?

That's a massive risk. I'm not sure...you would be betting on him being one of the few guys to come back from this injury unscathed

[NapoleonII]

If Jalen Rose can correctly diagnose with less information and less contact, then it becomes even *more* damning to GSW.

This is NOT incompetency at work, this is coordinated.

[Tha King]

From Kerr stoking rampant speculation after each game to all the rumors of the locker room questioning his commitment to the owner of the team guaranteeing he would play in the finals, the Warriors sure put in the effort to ensure Durant "wanted to play". And if he was indeed told the injury couldn't get worse then it's an easy decision on Durant's part - a player will always want to be out there, the other members of the organization are paid to be the impartial rational voices in situations such as this.

I don't even think he participated in a team practice. How do we go from that to him playing 12 of the first 14 minutes!?

An all-time great with a career threatening injury at 30, tragic. I hope KD's the exception and he can come back relatively strong.

[drekwins]

Can anyone explain why he hasn't had his MRI yet and surgery scheduled. If I remember right Kobe had his MRI that night and surgery the next morning because once that achilles goes you have limited amount of time to reattach it before it "dies". I'm not a doctor so I probably worded that funny and I just going off what remember.

From day one, the Warriors and KD have been very sketchy and slow in revealing the true aspects of the injury. I find it troubling that they were calling it a calf injury, when other physicians are speculating that they knew it was the achilles originally. If this is true (a big IF), that would be VERY troublesome to the NBA. You can't lie or mislead injuries. Players are moving parts. Their full medical history needs to be reported accurately so there is no confusion. I feel for KD but it's only right. I hope the NBA has independent doctors review the original scans to determine if they were lying. If they were, fine the living hell out of them.

[everdiso]

No MRI results yet and he only went to New York. Here's the latest I heard from a doctor which fits the descriptions I've seen here.

One Doctor's Opinion

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Full article here
https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/kevin-durants-original-injury-involved-achilles-sports-doctor-speculates/mui5q6e3z2171xv8l2ql1qrk9

Sounds about right.

So I guess the real question is how much tougher is it to recover from a full rupture of the Achilles than it would have been from his partial injury? Because that's what he was gambling with.

[Guest202]

If Jalen Rose can correctly diagnose with less information and less contact, then it becomes even *more* damning to GSW.

This is NOT incompetency at work, this is coordinated.

These rich guys don't give a flying **** about athletes, especially an athlete on an expiring deal. The GSW owner shoving Lowry SHOWED us they look at these athletes as like low caste subhumans. Pressuring KD was clearly coordinated, including 4 weeks of drip drip drip to the media from GSW's huge PR apparatus. KD needs to sue them for $500M. And that sociopath actor Myers and phony company man stooge Kerr should be immediately fired.

[Championships99]

KD should have never been allowed to play in the game, period.

The Warriors are greedy hogs.

[GSP]

Im genuinely shocked Westbrook hasnt posted any condolences on social media yet, if at all.

Russ never posts messages about players not on his team. He only posts about his family/kids and the only other friends he posts about are ones that passed away like Nipsey Hussle. Russ is extremely private always has been

[GSP]

No MRI results yet and he only went to New York. Here's the latest I heard from a doctor which fits the descriptions I've seen here.

One Doctor's Opinion

Read on Twitter

Full article here
https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/kevin-durants-original-injury-involved-achilles-sports-doctor-speculates/mui5q6e3z2171xv8l2ql1qrk9

Sounds about right.

So I guess the real question is how much tougher is it to recover from a full rupture of the Achilles than it would have been from his partial injury? Because that's what he was gambling with.

I think its easier to recover from a full rupture/tear. A partial one always lingers as far as i know. This might be a blessing in disguise for Kd long term if it was his achilles that had a partial injury in the first place

[Guest202]

Can anyone explain why he hasn't had his MRI yet and surgery scheduled. If I remember right Kobe had his MRI that night and surgery the next morning because once that achilles goes you have limited amount of time to reattach it before it "dies". I'm not a doctor so I probably worded that funny and I just going off what remember.

From day one, the Warriors and KD have been very sketchy and slow in revealing the true aspects of the injury. I find it troubling that they were calling it a calf injury, when other physicians are speculating that they knew it was the achilles originally. If this is true (a big IF), that would be VERY troublesome to the NBA. You can't lie or mislead injuries. Players are moving parts. Their full medical history needs to be reported accurately so there is no confusion. I feel for KD but it's only right. I hope the NBA has independent doctors review the original scans to determine if they were lying. If they were, fine the living hell out of them.

Not only lying about the injury, they used their media puppets to hype KD's return while also hyping him being chicken**** if he didn't return for 4 weeks. And during this time one of their owners assaulted Kyle Lowry -- and this season Cousins, Iggy, and Looney were rushed back and re-injured. There's OBVIOUSLY a huge culture issue in GSW ownership/management.

[zhenyasj]

If that's the standard for something not being conjecture then statements about him not being ready to play isn't either. Jalen Rose reported Friday and again today that KD wasn't basketball ready.

Myers is a GM who gets reports from team doctors and KD's doctors, so him speaking is not conjecture. Rose spoke about Friday's practice; he didn't speak about Sunday's or Monday's practices. Are you really saying that their access to information is the same and their opinions on the matter are based on the same information?

I'm saying that you saying EVERYONE outside of the team cleared KD based on statements from Meyers and RJ is conjecture. Those statements mean as much as Jalen's.

By everyone I meant Warriors doctors, KD's doctors and agent, and KD himself. Everyone else's opinion, including Jalen's, is irrelevant.

[gmoney411]

Myers is a GM who gets reports from team doctors and KD's doctors, so him speaking is not conjecture. Rose spoke about Friday's practice; he didn't speak about Sunday's or Monday's practices. Are you really saying that their access to information is the same and their opinions on the matter are based on the same information?

I'm saying that you saying EVERYONE outside of the team cleared KD based on statements from Meyers and RJ is conjecture. Those statements mean as much as Jalen's.

By everyone I meant Warriors doctors, KD's doctors and agent, and KD himself. Everyone else's opinion, including Jalen's, is irrelevant.

I didn't listen to the whole Meyers presser but he can't really speak for anybody outside of the team. If he's speaking on behalf of KD, his agent, and KD's doctors it's conjecture.

[Joerezz7]

Wasn’t KD suppose to get a MRI today? Why haven’t they announced the results? Is that a good or bad thing that they haven’t mentioned it today yet

[radeonboy]

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Agree with Shannon 1000%

[lakerz12]

But why would they sit him if they didn't know or feel that there was a serious (or even increased) risk of an Achilles tear? If you're saying B is most likely, they were negligent in diagnosing and clearing him, not in failing to sit him.

It's both. They failed to sit him because they weren't smart enough to figure out that he shouldn't play.

The two go hand in hand.

It was their responsibility to figure out that he shouldn't play and to force him to sit. They failed to do both.

Thankfully we have so many posters on RealGM that are smarter than trained medical professionals. Maybe the Warriors will hire some of you guys during the off season after this debacle.

Terrible argument.

We're not claiming we could do their job, we're only claiming that they should be held responsible for not doing theirs!

[zhenyasj]

I'm saying that you saying EVERYONE outside of the team cleared KD based on statements from Meyers and RJ is conjecture. Those statements mean as much as Jalen's.

By everyone I meant Warriors doctors, KD's doctors and agent, and KD himself. Everyone else's opinion, including Jalen's, is irrelevant.

I didn't listen to the whole Meyers presser but he can't really speak for anybody outside of the team. If he's speaking on behalf of KD, his agent, and KD's doctors it's conjecture.

Dude, sorry but that's a ridiculous take. You don't think that KD's team would let the Warriors front office know if independent doctors had an opinion on the injury that differed from the team diagnosis? You think that KD would go out an play if the second opinion didn't confirm what the Warriors doctors were telling him? You think that Meyers would lie about something that can be easily verified?