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2019 Draft Thread - Tonight, 6/20, 4:00PM PST ESPN.

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Predict the pick

1. Blazers are trading the pick
13
48%
2. Cameron Johnson
1
4%
3. Luka Samanic
1
4%
4. Grant Williams
3
11%
5. Matisse Thybulle
3
11%
6. Darius Bazley
1
4%
7. Chuma Okeke
1
4%
8. KZ Okpala
2
7%
9. Dylan Windler
2
7%
10. Talen Horton-Tucker
0
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Total votes: 27

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Post#61 » by zzaj » Mon Jun 3, 2019 4:18 am

Based on who the Blazers have brought in for workouts so far, it's certainly support for the narrative that they will acquire a 2nd rounder and give up the 1st rounder. None of those players, including Ponds will be drafted in the first round and a couple of them may not be drafted at all.
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Post#62 » by B0naf1d3 » Mon Jun 3, 2019 6:22 pm

Tough to predict where guys will fall after the mid/late teens, it's pretty wide open. Some guys that should be there at pick #25 that cover different needs/timelines...

Darius Bazley(19yrs)...6'9 SF/PF...the Anfernee Simons of the draft. Potential pick, if Olshey decides to go that route.
Nic Claxton(20yrs)...6'11 PF/C...potential pick #2. Interesting tools as a big. Who knows what he develops into.
Grant Williams(20.5yrs)...6'7 PF...glue guy. Does a lot of things that contributes to winning. Short roll potential.
Jalen McDaniels(21.3yrs)...6'9 SF/PF...See a lot of Harkless in him, good and bad.

I actually think there's a lot of role player talent in the second round. I'm sure acquiring a mid second wouldn't be too difficult (ATL/PHI). Every "down" draft has potential to be a good one a few years down the line.
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Post#63 » by PDXKnight » Wed Jun 5, 2019 11:59 pm

zzaj wrote:Based on who the Blazers have brought in for workouts so far, it's certainly support for the narrative that they will acquire a 2nd rounder and give up the 1st rounder. None of those players, including Ponds will be drafted in the first round and a couple of them may not be drafted at all.


I wonder how much we can offload with a first. My immediate thought is probably not ET as that’s a lot of dead weight to take on for a number 25 pick
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Post#64 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jun 6, 2019 12:00 am

I’d love if we could steal Bol Bol. Yes he’s an injury risk but I’d roll the dice on him
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Post#65 » by Blazinaway » Thu Jun 6, 2019 12:36 am

Oden2 wrote:
zzaj wrote:Based on who the Blazers have brought in for workouts so far, it's certainly support for the narrative that they will acquire a 2nd rounder and give up the 1st rounder. None of those players, including Ponds will be drafted in the first round and a couple of them may not be drafted at all.


I wonder how much we can offload with a first. My immediate thought is probably not ET as that’s a lot of dead weight to take on for a number 25 pick


This proposal at trade board got pretty good feedback, Bjelica is basically an 8 mil expiring with 20/20 not guaranteed, and we need front ct help:

Portland Out/Sacramento in: Turner/#25
Sacramento Out/Portland in: Bjelica

Why for Portland? Add another shooter around Lillard/McCollum. Saves about 11.5 million dollars in the process helping them resign Hood/Aminu while staying out of the tax.

Why for Sacramento? Move into the first round. Turner can handle the ball with Bogdan off the bench and gives us another wing when we want to go small. Rumor has it we are pursuing Marcus Morris who would take Bjelicas spot. Still leaves us with 25 million to play with.
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Post#66 » by zzaj » Thu Jun 6, 2019 6:14 am

Blazinaway wrote:
Oden2 wrote:
zzaj wrote:Based on who the Blazers have brought in for workouts so far, it's certainly support for the narrative that they will acquire a 2nd rounder and give up the 1st rounder. None of those players, including Ponds will be drafted in the first round and a couple of them may not be drafted at all.


I wonder how much we can offload with a first. My immediate thought is probably not ET as that’s a lot of dead weight to take on for a number 25 pick


This proposal at trade board got pretty good feedback, Bjelica is basically an 8 mil expiring with 20/20 not guaranteed, and we need front ct help:

Portland Out/Sacramento in: Turner/#25
Sacramento Out/Portland in: Bjelica

Why for Portland? Add another shooter around Lillard/McCollum. Saves about 11.5 million dollars in the process helping them resign Hood/Aminu while staying out of the tax.

Why for Sacramento? Move into the first round. Turner can handle the ball with Bogdan off the bench and gives us another wing when we want to go small. Rumor has it we are pursuing Marcus Morris who would take Bjelicas spot. Still leaves us with 25 million to play with.


I would 100% be in favor of that trade.
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Post#67 » by Village Idiot » Thu Jun 6, 2019 7:09 am

Kevin Porter is another guy I'd take a look at, especially with a 2nd rounder. The kid has high lottery talent and athleticism but is really immature. I like to think that our strong culture and Damian's leadership could get him on the right path. At 25 or lower we should be willing to look at high risk/high reward guys.
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Post#68 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jun 6, 2019 7:24 pm

Not sure this team needs another Center unless we let Kanter walk and roll with only Zach / Myers, but a kid that has slid under the radar a bit is Moses Brown.

Freshman from UCLA, tremendous size and length at 7'2 with 7'4 wingspan. His hand size is top-15 all time in Draftexpress Database. Kid is already a really good rebounder, something a lot of super tall players take time to develop, and as expected a great shotblocker. He has good hands on offense and absolutely, positively a horrendous jumper (sub 40% FT).

That being said, I think he has nice backup big potential. Not as springy as McGee, then again who is at that size, but similar in play style. Maybe he is more of a Salah Mejri talent, but who knows where Salah could have been had he come to this league at 19 instead of 29.

I wouldn't take him 25, but if we ended up with a mid 40's pick I like his potential.
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Post#69 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:30 pm

Blazers edge has a profile on Jalen Lecque today. Not sure we need an (uber) athletic guard who cant shoot but man, someone could get a late draft steal with him. I was watching videos a couple days ago and think he could climb into the first round despite his flaws, similar to Simons last year.
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Post#70 » by HoopsFanAZ » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:56 pm

Yes, even at 25, it’s BPA regardless of Nurkic healing, Kanter may be leaving (Chief, too). Still, it would be a good thing to have enough athletic PF/C’s — not that they’re needed. 8-)

Bol Bol is currently out of range, and his body needs serious NBA training and care.
Kabengele may be gone though opinions vary widely. Translatable game to the NBA with a more mature body.
Claxton is young and athletic with plenty to develop before he passes up Meyers Leonard. Young bigs at #25 ...

BUT if we’re talking athletic, one big has gotten my attention — Daniel Gafford. Descriptions include “bouncy” and “fluid” with a Marcus Camby comparison. The dunking everything is obvious. Weak side rim protection, too. But his movement stands out. It’s not quite Nic Batum gliding along, but Gafford does have some unicorn in him.

He’s more of a project especially on O. I like Samancic better, and Kabengele is more NBA ready. Gafford is a HIGH upside big.


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Post#71 » by JasonStern » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:15 pm

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Post#72 » by Masterfully » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:39 am

JasonStern wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/portland-trail-blazers/get-know-players-trail-blazers-second-pre-draft-workout

Windier is interesting in a McDermott sort of way.
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Post#73 » by Goldbum » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:48 am

What about Turner and 25 for Bjelica and #47 Bazley or Lecque? Not my idea someone else posted something similar. I just kinda like a high school version of Dame/CJ with a the ability to keep Hood
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Post#74 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:45 pm

Masterfully wrote:
JasonStern wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/portland-trail-blazers/get-know-players-trail-blazers-second-pre-draft-workout

Windier is interesting in a McDermott sort of way.


He is such an Olshey pick. When I saw he was one of our early workouts, well he is our most likely pick if we stay at 25. He's got good size, he's crafty and he's been put in a situation where a team relies on him. I think he has some sneaky athleticism too, posted good numbers at the combine. He's polished which is a plus for a team like us looking for more immediate production. I think at his ceiling he could maybe be a Bogdan type of player for us off the bench.

If we are purely considering need, for me right now its between Cameron Johnson, Dylan Windler and Chuma Okeke. Their ceilings are a bit low and I believe in BPA in the late first so it might make sense to target them with an early second.
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Post#75 » by KeepOnRollin » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:54 pm

Bazley folks!
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Post#76 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:55 pm

Windler is my guy if we stay at #25, he or Okeke or Samanic. But I lean torwards Windler. He is deceptively athletic and to remain elite % wise despite insane volume as a #1 go-to scorer is a testament to his shot. Unlike a guy like Luke Babbit, who was heralded as a sharpshooter coming out but averaged 1.2 makes on a slow ass release, Windler got 3 makes a game last season with a high and quick release. I am very aware of prospect bust potential, in the real world a player like Kyle Korver is worth a lotto pick, arguably a top 10 pick. Windler has Korver potential but wont go above 20 IMO. That's great value.

Like Korver, the biggest thing is learning to move off ball and understanding your NBA role vs your small-school college roll. Windler seems level headed and able to do that. He would compliment Harkless tremendously if we rolled with them at SF.
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Post#77 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:02 pm

Windier is interesting in a McDermott sort of way.


I don't put too much value on raw defensive stats, but there is a certain minimum that one expects from a player that is 6'08 and playing against meh competition.

McDermott in 4 seasons had 48 combined steals / blocks in 145 games. That's absolutely terrible and to me showed that he was going to be a limited player in the NBA. It goes beyond athleticism to defensive and spatial awareness at that point.

Windler in 4 seasons has 226 combined steals / blocks in 128 games.
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Post#78 » by Case2012 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:47 pm

All in for Bol Bollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll :nod:
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Post#79 » by Village Idiot » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:18 am

KeepOnRollin wrote:Bazley folks!
Makes sense if we want to endear ourselves to Rich Paul.

Anyone else notice that all of the guys we're working out are project 2nd rounders. Do we have a deal done to move down into the 2nd round?
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Post#80 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:21 pm

Unless the guy is a clear cut, Zion like talent, I would steer clear of any Rich Paul client. Bazley isn't talented enough to be worth that BS.

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