2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

[bigfoot]

If the Pelicans were smart they would work a trade to send AD to the eastern conference. Boston has much more to give than the Lakers.

[TeamTragic]

Horrible article. Horrible trade. PASS

[Blonde]

If Garland and Culver are both off the board, I'd be very happy to trade 6 for Lonzo. If either of them are still on the board, I think I'd still make the Lonzo deal. That said, I'm not putting any stock into a reported 4 team trade. Those kinds of deals are so rare they are almost always fantasy land deals.

[lilfishi22]

If the Pelicans were smart they would work a trade to send AD to the eastern conference. Boston has much more to give than the Lakers.

Depends what they are willing to give up. Boston definitely has the most attractive package but without AD's commitment, I think they have to be smart with who they give up. LA knows they have AD's commitment whether it's this offseason or the next so they can realistically give up virtually everyone and everything minus Lebron for AD.

I personally would like to see AD in Boston so there could be a 4 legit contenders out East (Bos, Tor, Mil, Phi)

[Crives]

Our defense would be so sick with lonzo.

Bridges is probably a better defender

[sunsbum]

Our defense would be so sick with lonzo.

Bridges is probably a better defender

fantastic.... How bout having 2 all defensive players

[Crives]

Our defense would be so sick with lonzo.

Bridges is probably a better defender

fantastic.... How bout having 2 all defensive players

Agreed.

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[Slim Charless]

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Yeah no sht lol

DSJ hasn't shown anything, Knox hasn't really shown anything, Robinson is a stud value prospect but he isn't getting anyone special....who else they got? Trier? I like him but again, he's a value guy you throw into a deal to get it over the line but he's not getting you anyone on his own.

I never really understood why NYK didn't try to trade KP and other things for AD? KP, this years picks and Knox couldnt have gotten it done at the trade deadline? Seems to me that something could of been worked out between the 2 teams unless KP just refused to resign with the pels. Zion, Jrue and KP would be a nice basis for any team to have. I suppose a lot of it was to get rid THJ's deal but still they could of gotten creative with that one if need be. That would piss me off if I was a knick fan.

[lilfishi22]

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Yeah no sht lol

DSJ hasn't shown anything, Knox hasn't really shown anything, Robinson is a stud value prospect but he isn't getting anyone special....who else they got? Trier? I like him but again, he's a value guy you throw into a deal to get it over the line but he's not getting you anyone on his own.

I never really understood why NYK didn't try to trade KP and other things for AD? KP, this years picks and Knox couldnt have gotten it done at the trade deadline? Seems to me that something could of been worked out between the 2 teams unless KP just refused to resign with the pels. Zion, Jrue and KP would be a nice basis for any team to have. I suppose a lot of it was to get rid THJ's deal but still they could of gotten creative with that one if need be. That would piss me off if I was a knick fan.

IIRC either the Pels didn't want Zinger or they knew Zinger wasn't interested in staying in Nawlins long term.

[Slim Charless]

If the Pelicans were smart they would work a trade to send AD to the eastern conference. Boston has much more to give than the Lakers.

I agree and would hope that we can get in on that and snag Marcus Smart. Better defender, better shooter, way better in big games (just cause he's played in to many) but he's also not as good of a distributer and takes a lot of dumb shots.

[Slim Charless]

Yeah no sht lol

DSJ hasn't shown anything, Knox hasn't really shown anything, Robinson is a stud value prospect but he isn't getting anyone special....who else they got? Trier? I like him but again, he's a value guy you throw into a deal to get it over the line but he's not getting you anyone on his own.

I never really understood why NYK didn't try to trade KP and other things for AD? KP, this years picks and Knox couldnt have gotten it done at the trade deadline? Seems to me that something could of been worked out between the 2 teams unless KP just refused to resign with the pels. Zion, Jrue and KP would be a nice basis for any team to have. I suppose a lot of it was to get rid THJ's deal but still they could of gotten creative with that one if need be. That would piss me off if I was a knick fan.

IIRC either the Pels didn't want Zinger or they knew Zinger wasn't interested in staying in Nawlins long term.

I wonder if he'd change his mind if he had to do it again? Probably not they've unfortunately got a good thing going in Dallas, but I feel that's more to do with Carlisle-who is a hell of a coach. He knew exactly how to use Luka.

[lilfishi22]

I never really understood why NYK didn't try to trade KP and other things for AD? KP, this years picks and Knox couldnt have gotten it done at the trade deadline? Seems to me that something could of been worked out between the 2 teams unless KP just refused to resign with the pels. Zion, Jrue and KP would be a nice basis for any team to have. I suppose a lot of it was to get rid THJ's deal but still they could of gotten creative with that one if need be. That would piss me off if I was a knick fan.

IIRC either the Pels didn't want Zinger or they knew Zinger wasn't interested in staying in Nawlins long term.

I wonder if he'd change his mind if he had to do it again? Probably not they've unfortunately got a good thing going in Dallas, but I feel that's more to do with Carlisle-who is a hell of a coach. He knew exactly how to use Luka.

I think Dallas was one of the best landing spots for KP. HOF coach, a GREAT team owner, a strong front office, a history of winning and now the building blocks of a future contender (Luka + cap space). I don't think Pels showed enough and even with Griff in the front office now, it's still unproven.

[bwgood77]

I'd probably look at Noah Vonleh if we don't have much money for a PF. He improved quite a bit defensively this year, is still only 23 (will be 24), has a 7'4 wingspan and improved his shot blocking this past year, solid DRPM on a bad team, shot the 3 at 33.6%. Seems like a decent fit next to Ayton. Not great but still probably has upside.

[lilfishi22]

I'd probably look at Noah Vonleh if we don't have much money for a PF. He improved quite a bit defensively this year, is still only 23 (will be 24), has a 7'4 wingspan and improved his shot blocking this past year, solid DRPM on a bad team, shot the 3 at 33.6%. Seems like a decent fit next to Ayton. Not great but still probably has upside.

At this stage, beggars can't be choosers and if we only have so much for a PF then I wouldn't' mind a youngish player with upside that's been in the league for a few years and really just started to understand the game. I think he'd be a fine option.

[hollywood6964]

Milasap would be great too but yeah he's even older then Draymond. Capella wouldn't be playing as C but as our PF in that scenario I laid out. His defense in particular his rebounding would be great next to Ayton. His defense and Ayton's potentially fantastic offense could compliment each other nicely.

I get that he was run off the court against GS but who besides Gordan really looked good? We need to worry about the basics like defense and rebounding and making it to .500 before we need think about beating the warriors in the playoffs.

I'm talking offensively. Ayton likes to be inside n capella does as well. clogged interior. Also, defensively, most pfs these days would give either of those 2 problems.

I'm guessing you mean drawing them out towards the 3 line but looking at the % numbers it's not that impressive as that relates to the various 4s throughout the league.
http://proxy.espn.com/nba/statistics/player?stat=3-points&sort=threePointFieldGoalPct&seasontype=2&position=power-forwards

GS series not with standing Capella can switch fairly well in the PnR. Offensively yes there would be some issues but Ayton's so young we don't have any idea of what his final form will look like. He can add an outside presence to his game.

I just don't like the idea based on the points I made, mainly.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd probably look at Noah Vonleh if we don't have much money for a PF. He improved quite a bit defensively this year, is still only 23 (will be 24), has a 7'4 wingspan and improved his shot blocking this past year, solid DRPM on a bad team, shot the 3 at 33.6%. Seems like a decent fit next to Ayton. Not great but still probably has upside.

I liked him coming out of college. It's been bumpy road but there still might be something there with him.

He's a good example I have to remind myself with some of these raw prospects coming out. Some pop like a dude like Booker but a lot of them take time and realistically never help the team that drafts them.

These 'second draft' types in that 23-26ish ages are good dudes to gamble on. It's when you see some of these former lotto picks figure out their place in the league and settle into role player spots and actually help teams.

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[Slim Charless]

I'd probably look at Noah Vonleh if we don't have much money for a PF. He improved quite a bit defensively this year, is still only 23 (will be 24), has a 7'4 wingspan and improved his shot blocking this past year, solid DRPM on a bad team, shot the 3 at 33.6%. Seems like a decent fit next to Ayton. Not great but still probably has upside.

I liked him coming out of college. It's been bumpy road but there still might be something there with him.

He's a good example I have to remind myself with some of these raw prospects coming out. Some pop like a dude like Booker but a lot of them take time and realistically never help the team that drafts them.

These 'second draft' types in that 23-26ish ages are good dudes to gamble on. It's when you see some of these former lotto picks figure out their place in the league and settle into role player spots and actually help teams.

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I could get behind this. He's still fairly young and wouldn't cost a lot and would be a great gamble if he pays off. That length is huge for a 6'9 guy and he couldn't be any worse then what we've put out. If we don't grab Clarke that'd be a great alternative.

[Blonde]

I’m still heavily interested in Aaron Gordon. No idea what Orlando is looking to do this summer though. I think they understand they are still in a rebuilding phase but whether Gordon is central in that plan or a piece to move is unclear.

Warren + Okobo + 6 to Orlando
Gordon + 16 to Phoenix

Probably not worth it for Orlando but maybe they are in love with someone at 6. There would be no realistic way to add a good PG after that though, so Tyler would have to do.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I'd probably look at Noah Vonleh if we don't have much money for a PF. He improved quite a bit defensively this year, is still only 23 (will be 24), has a 7'4 wingspan and improved his shot blocking this past year, solid DRPM on a bad team, shot the 3 at 33.6%. Seems like a decent fit next to Ayton. Not great but still probably has upside.

And he did a hell of a job defending Giannis too!

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[BobbieL]

I'd probably look at Noah Vonleh if we don't have much money for a PF. He improved quite a bit defensively this year, is still only 23 (will be 24), has a 7'4 wingspan and improved his shot blocking this past year, solid DRPM on a bad team, shot the 3 at 33.6%. Seems like a decent fit next to Ayton. Not great but still probably has upside.

I can see this as a possibility as his name really hasn’t been mentioned. I can see Jones Bower Williams finding players that might fit their style and need. Mizell has mentioned Looney as well.