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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#801 » by DY_nasty » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:29 am

Snidely FC wrote:
JDR720 wrote:doesn't cody count as a rim runner? to me, a rim runner is someone who sets screens and then....runs to the rim.

Yes Cody is a rim runner, and Biz is a defensive specialist, and Frank is an offensive specialist, and Willy is a piece of balsa wood, which is why we need a balanced Center. But as the author points out they're hard to come by. (in this draft he suggests Goga;)

cody can barely jump anymore and he's not an above the rim player

its been years and he still gathers too far out, can't change direction, put the ball down once if needed to set himself up for a better look, or finish strong and consistently. most of the time he's setting screens, he's not even looking to run at the rim afterwards. no one guards him or his action

can we not act like cody is a solution pls
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#802 » by Braggins » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:15 am

I agree with that article about rim running centers, but I still like Claxton because he has some shooting + passing potential and he'll likely be available in the 20-35 range. Goga is still my favorite center.

We need to start divesting from the center position. We are overstocked with mediocre to bad traditional bigs meant for Cliffords system. I would start with WHG because he shouldn't be in the future plans and hes on a movable contract. We're likely stuck with everyone else for at least a season, but that just means that if they take a developmental center late in the draft, which I'd like them to if the right opportunity is there, that they'll still be able to bring him along slowly.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#803 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:39 am

I think we should let kemba go. Just too much money to go to him and tie us down with him getting older. I am getting there with my draft but I am just stuck with who to take either

#12-Luka Samanic and #36 Arturs Zagars,

or

#12 NAW and #36 Obeshie.

I am focusing on NAW and Zagars because if we get rid of kemba we would need a PG. Zagars (if he were to pan out) would sell tickets, and so would Samanic, but NAW might be more of a SURE THING. Also Zagars could be where we are able to trade back and still grab him.

scenerio 1 trade back pick up a future pick or 2 and select Zagars and Obeishie

Zagars
Bacon
Obeishie, Thybulle, Robey, Mcdaniels, Schofield, Sirvydis, Poole, Bazley, Radoncic, Mann (whomever you choose should be there)
Bridges
Cook

and we would have a future first or 2.

or what could be a more SURE THING in

NAW
Bacon
Obeishie, Thybulle, Robey, Mcdaniels, Schofield, Sirvydis, Poole, Bazley, Radoncic, Mann (whomever you choose should be there)
Bridges
Cook

Or simply just stick with Luka Samanic at #12 and Zagars at #36 (if hes still there which he should but its still an IF with no other PG's to really consider)

Zagars
Bacon
Samanic
Bridges
Cook

Cook is the only pick I am certain about at #51. ( I think he might be the best center in the draft).

From looking above I think we should select scenerio 1 and trade back and select Zagars and a couple of future picks.

So much to consider. Being a GM is hard and being a GM who doesn't get paid (me) is even harder lmao
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#804 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:49 am

12 players now in the green room.

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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#805 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:32 pm

UNCNYC wrote:I think we should let kemba go. Just too much money to go to him and tie us down with him getting older. I am getting there with my draft but I am just stuck with who to take either

#12-Luka Samanic and #36 Arturs Zagars,

or

#12 NAW and #36 Obeshie.

I am focusing on NAW and Zagars because if we get rid of kemba we would need a PG. Zagars (if he were to pan out) would sell tickets, and so would Samanic, but NAW might be more of a SURE THING. Also Zagars could be where we are able to trade back and still grab him.

scenerio 1 trade back pick up a future pick or 2 and select Zagars and Obeishie

Zagars
Bacon
Obeishie, Thybulle, Robey, Mcdaniels, Schofield, Sirvydis, Poole, Bazley, Radoncic, Mann (whomever you choose should be there)
Bridges
Cook

and we would have a future first or 2.

or what could be a more SURE THING in

NAW
Bacon
Obeishie, Thybulle, Robey, Mcdaniels, Schofield, Sirvydis, Poole, Bazley, Radoncic, Mann (whomever you choose should be there)
Bridges
Cook

Or simply just stick with Luka Samanic at #12 and Zagars at #36 (if hes still there which he should but its still an IF with no other PG's to really consider)

Zagars
Bacon
Samanic
Bridges
Cook

Cook is the only pick I am certain about at #51. ( I think he might be the best center in the draft).

From looking above I think we should select scenerio 1 and trade back and select Zagars and a couple of future picks.

So much to consider. Being a GM is hard and being a GM who doesn't get paid (me) is even harder lmao


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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#806 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:I think we should let kemba go. Just too much money to go to him and tie us down with him getting older. I am getting there with my draft but I am just stuck with who to take either

#12-Luka Samanic and #36 Arturs Zagars,

or

#12 NAW and #36 Obeshie.

I am focusing on NAW and Zagars because if we get rid of kemba we would need a PG. Zagars (if he were to pan out) would sell tickets, and so would Samanic, but NAW might be more of a SURE THING. Also Zagars could be where we are able to trade back and still grab him.

scenerio 1 trade back pick up a future pick or 2 and select Zagars and Obeishie

Zagars
Bacon
Obeishie, Thybulle, Robey, Mcdaniels, Schofield, Sirvydis, Poole, Bazley, Radoncic, Mann (whomever you choose should be there)
Bridges
Cook

and we would have a future first or 2.

or what could be a more SURE THING in

NAW
Bacon
Obeishie, Thybulle, Robey, Mcdaniels, Schofield, Sirvydis, Poole, Bazley, Radoncic, Mann (whomever you choose should be there)
Bridges
Cook

Or simply just stick with Luka Samanic at #12 and Zagars at #36 (if hes still there which he should but its still an IF with no other PG's to really consider)

Zagars
Bacon
Samanic
Bridges
Cook

Cook is the only pick I am certain about at #51. ( I think he might be the best center in the draft).

From looking above I think we should select scenerio 1 and trade back and select Zagars and a couple of future picks.

So much to consider. Being a GM is hard and being a GM who doesn't get paid (me) is even harder lmao


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That makes it easier for my choice (at least for now lol)..

#12-NAW
#36-Bazley ( I might as well go with him and gamble here if he is still here by this point in the draft)
#51-COOK

It will probably change tho lol.

new lineup

NAW
Bacon
Bazley
Bridges
Cook


We would have a an interesting combo of names if I draft that lineup. Imagine someone saying, Hey did you COOK that BACON yet? If so, sprinkle a little BAZLEY on it for me. NAW homie, If I ate that sandwich, that would burn the BRIDGES to our friendship lol.

I am sure I coulda did better in that little riddle but I didn't feel like spending more than 1 minute and a half figuring out how.
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THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen

UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#807 » by LofJ » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:00 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:12 players now in the green room.

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Add Sekou to that list and that may be all but one of the lottery selections. I'm guessing that the Wolves are going to take Little and the Celtics Herro (he looks like a Dany Ainge special).

That will leave Mitch to pick between NAW, Langford, Washington, Hachimura, and Clarke.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#808 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:02 pm

LofJ wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:12 players now in the green room.

Read on Twitter


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Add Sekou to that list and that may be all but one of the lottery selections. I'm guessing that the Wolves are going to take Little and the Celtics Herro (he looks like a Dany Ainge special).

That will leave Mitch to pick between NAW, Langford, Washington, Hachimura, and Clarke.


Hopefully it's NAW
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#809 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:07 pm

I like Robey but I feel like us having Bridges already he is somewhat a similar type of player
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Post#810 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:18 pm

I also have my eye on Deividas Sirvydis, and Dino Radoncic. The reason why Rodoncic is because he is best friends with Doncic so it's making me consider him moreso than I probably would if he weren't.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#811 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:39 pm

Shoutout to JMAC3 for keeping us updated and helping me with who dropped out of the draft... That really saved time in my drafting.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#812 » by LofJ » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:49 pm

I've been looking over guys projected to go in the late first and early 2nd; and man are there are a metric ton of interesting big men. It will be a major failure on the part of our scouting department and front office if we come out of this draft without a good big man to develop.
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Post#813 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:59 pm

LofJ wrote:I've been looking over guys projected to go in the late first and early 2nd; and man are there are a metric ton of interesting big men. It will be a major failure on the part of our scouting department and front office if we come out of this draft without a good big man to develop.


I couldn't agree more. I SOOOOO want us to draft Tyler Cook at #51. I posted him before (a different video than this one). Man he would be a STEAL at #51 for us. I think he can also play the 4 or the 5. I see no mocks at all with him in either round.

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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#814 » by LofJ » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:09 pm

UNCNYC wrote:
LofJ wrote:I've been looking over guys projected to go in the late first and early 2nd; and man are there are a metric ton of interesting big men. It will be a major failure on the part of our scouting department and front office if we come out of this draft without a good big man to develop.


I couldn't agree more. I SOOOOO want us to draft Tyler Cook at #51. I posted him before (a different video than this one). Man he would be a STEAL at #51 for us. I think he can also play the 4 or the 5. I see no mocks at all with him in either round.



This draft reminds me a lot of 2011. It will look like a bad class for a year or two outside of a few players (Zion/Kyrie), but once the rookie deals are over there will suddenly be half a dozen all-star level players from this group. This is a year when every pick should be made to count.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#815 » by Chapelchilla » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:50 pm

UNCNYC wrote:
LofJ wrote:I've been looking over guys projected to go in the late first and early 2nd; and man are there are a metric ton of interesting big men. It will be a major failure on the part of our scouting department and front office if we come out of this draft without a good big man to develop.


I couldn't agree more. I SOOOOO want us to draft Tyler Cook at #51. I posted him before (a different video than this one). Man he would be a STEAL at #51 for us. I think he can also play the 4 or the 5. I see no mocks at all with him in either round.



You may actually be on to something here UNCNYC. This dude looks pretty interesting. Can he shoot? Dude has hops and a decent handle, plus he looks like a leader. May pair well with Bridges in a switchable 3/4 set of athletic forwards. Would not mind getting him with the second second rounder. Draft a combo guard with the 12, a mobile, long armed center with 36 and a nasty guy like this with the last pick and I would be pretty happy.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#816 » by Benjamin Linus » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:59 pm

The back half of the first round is pretty interesting. I wish our front-office had the foresight to package Lamb & Frank for a late first midway through last season. Everyone knew we weren't going to make the playoffs and that those two are probably not going to be resigned. Sure would be nice sitting here with say picks 9, 21, & 36
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#817 » by Robot Rock » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:01 pm

Pick #12: Nassir Little

Pick #36: Cameron Johnson or Luke Maye
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#818 » by Lwcasu » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:37 pm

Robot Rock wrote:Pick #12: Nassir Little

Pick #36: Cameron Johnson or Luke Maye


You must be a Duke fan :nod: :lol:
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Post#819 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:39 pm

I have narrowed my #12 pick to NAW and I still have Samanic there just incase NAW gets taken off the board.

And I have narrowed my #51 pick down to Tyler Cook, and have Harry Froling and Jontay Porter if Cook is off the board.

This is what I like about the remaining players that I have at the #36 pick for us which I still have not chosen yet.

Darius Bazley - A huge question mark which is always a plus when you are young and gifted with athletic playmaking skills.

Joshua Obiesie - He reminds me of Batum. He has PG skills. Almost like having a second PG on the floor. Lacks explosive
athleticism but does have enough.

Kevin Porter - If he were to slip this far it would make me consider taking a gamble on him. He does have some upside but
something is missing. Reminds me a bit of Jamal Crawford.

Troy Baxter Jr - He doesn't put up good stats, and plays for a small college which makes him a super long shot here, but is the
best athlete and gifted player in the draft.

Deividas Sirvydis - He has a natural poise to his game. Might be the best long term out of this group.

Jalen McDaniels - Reminds me of Gerald Wallace. Only thing he has against him as far as me taking him here, is he is a bit
older at 21 and possibly has off the court situation to deal with.

Matisse Thybulle - Not a great offensive player but is known for solid D which is good because most players don't have something
they are a specialist in. I can see him developing a contributing offensive game.

Dino Radoncic - He's Luka Doncic's friend. So it makes me think it can rub off a bit lol. He has a mature game. Gets the job done.

These are all I have left on the board. Still decisions to make on my end.
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Re: 2019 Draft Discussion 

Post#820 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:53 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:
LofJ wrote:I've been looking over guys projected to go in the late first and early 2nd; and man are there are a metric ton of interesting big men. It will be a major failure on the part of our scouting department and front office if we come out of this draft without a good big man to develop.


I couldn't agree more. I SOOOOO want us to draft Tyler Cook at #51. I posted him before (a different video than this one). Man he would be a STEAL at #51 for us. I think he can also play the 4 or the 5. I see no mocks at all with him in either round.

You may actually be on to something here UNCNYC. This dude looks pretty interesting. Can he shoot? Dude has hops and a decent handle, plus he looks like a leader. May pair well with Bridges in a switchable 3/4 set of athletic forwards. Would not mind getting him with the second second rounder. Draft a combo guard with the 12, a mobile, long armed center with 36 and a nasty guy like this with the last pick and I would be pretty happy.


Here is a different video of him shooting more. He doesn't shoot the 3 much at all tho. He has a mid range game and does have a very soft touch around the basket. He has really good form on his shot and likes to dribble and create his shot. He has good handles I really hope hes there for us to take at #51.

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