Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

[chrisab123]

Have the Pelicans worked anyone out yet? I don't understand why they wouldn't want the 4th pick. Darius Garland is going to be a star in the league.

The 4th pick reportedly isn't going to them.

But I'm saying, if I was the Pelicans I'd rather have that 4th pick come directly to me than shipping it out elsewhere.

4th pick in a 3 person draft doesn't hold a ton of value. Its Zion Morant Barrett then who....maybe the kid from Vandy? Reddish? Freaking Bol Bol? Who knows?

[The Laker Kid]

It's getting intense by the minute. Not getting anything done at work today

[Nick Sigler]

The 4th pick reportedly isn't going to them.

But I'm saying, if I was the Pelicans I'd rather have that 4th pick come directly to me than shipping it out elsewhere.

4th pick in a 3 person draft doesn't hold a ton of value. Its Zion Morant Barrett then who....maybe the kid from Vandy? Reddish? Freaking Bol Bol? Who knows?

"Three person draft" is a narrative pushed by casuals. The reality is there is a lot of talent in this draft. Hunter and Garland absolutely have star potential. Reddish is a question mark, but potential is there.

I would love to pair up Garland and Zion, if I were the Pelicans.

[levon]

Pop should be focusing on his own damn team. 2 of his lead assistants just left, and they're treadmill for the foreseeable future.

[jsierra1985]

lakers should trade lebron and the 4th for AD...and land kyrie in the offseason...lol

[Dominator83]

Pelicans should demand the Lakers give them the Billy King special. 3 future 1st round picks, starting 3 years from now

[JimmyTheGreek]

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[PhilBlackson]

On second thought for my own selfish reasons I want AD to land in LA...him being there with LeBron would have to be at least somewhat of a deterrent to Kawhi going to LAC if he knows then has to try and run a gauntlet of Steph/Klay/Dray, Harden/CP3 and Bron/AD and that he will play at least 2 of those duos on route and that's after a 1st rd matchup with one of DEN, POR, Utah etc...

Go Pelinka! lol

[Jagic Mohnson]

There you go Pels... play hardball. Don’t settle and let them rob you.

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wow what a freaking joke. jerry west is like, wait a minute, the trade is being held up because lakers dont want to give up kyle kuzma aka lonzo balls biznotch. jerry buss my dude, im glad you aint here to witness this.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Think the Pelicans are just using the Celtics for leverage at this point, I refuse to believe Danny would be ok with Kyrie walking, trading Tatum for AD and then possibly losing AD a year later, that is a fireable series of moves.

[iggymcfrack]

If the Lakers were cutthroat they'd trade Lebron and the 4th pick for Davis, and then go after Kyrie in free agency.

Ainge would do it if he was the Lakers GM.

LeBron doesn’t fit the Pelicans’ timeline at all. They should be going young to build around Zion. Not trying to contend now with a 35 year old after missing the playoffs last season. Kyrie/Hart/LeBron/Kuzma/AD is a perfect mesh of big-time star talent at or near their primes and young guys on rookie deals who can still contoribute well in limited roles. They’d be at worst second favorites in the West and possibly the favorites to win the entire league.

[teke184]

Pelicans should demand the Lakers give them the Billy King special. 3 future 1st round picks, starting 3 years from now

The Billy King special would be #4, the 2020 first, 2022 first, 2024 first, and pick swaps for 2021, 2023, and 2025, all unprotected.

[BVB24]

Pelicans caving... smh

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[levon]

[Ganguli & Turner] The Lakers might have an opportunity to keep their No. 4 pick should they agree to part with Kuzma.

"poo poo platter"

[UNCBlue012]

I'd guess AD goes to the Lakers at this point. They're probably going to get bent over. lol

[Duke4life831]

Based on what though? I think a pretty fair way to look at this is

Ingram = Tatum (I actually have Ingram > Tatum)
#4 > Smart
Lonzo > #14
Kuzma > #20
2021 LAL pick < MEM pick

Tatum ranked 33rd and 81st in RPM the last 2 years. Ingram ranked 317th and 319th. Tatum’s also younger. There’s no way Ingram is a superior asset right now. I’d say it’s more like:

Tatum >>> #4 > Lonzo = Memphis pick > Ingram = Brown > #14 = 2021 Lakers pick > #20 > Smart

Tatum is younger, a better shooter, a better athlete, has flashed more star potential, imo will get stronger physically and has shown to be be able to make the big shot. I'd put Smart over Ball, Ball is way too injury prone, Smart's contract is cheap and he shot the 3 around .370 last season which made him respectable in that regard.

Okay the younger thing makes no sense, we are talking about a 6 month difference. He's not a better athlete, how has he flashed more star potential? Ingram's last 31 games he averaged 20/6/3.5 on 51% shooting. Has Tatum ever had a 30 game stretch like that? The he has shown to make the big shot thing is weird, Ingram has too. Im not saying its Ingram by a mile, Id also can see the argument for Tatum over Ingram, but this idea its Tatum by a mile is ridiculous to me.

Id take Smart over Ball as well, but you have Smart as the #2 in Boston's deal. No way anyone is taking Smart over the #4 pick. Also its not like Smart has been mr reliable when it comes to health, has played 70 games only twice in his 5 seasons and has missed 11 playoff games the last 2 years. Also he needs more than 1 year of shooting 36% from 3, for me to buy in he is now a 37% 3pt shooter.

Again I get the argument for the Boston deal when you include Brown. But taking Brown out, you lose a lot.

[nitocobola]

No way that the celtics trade for AD without throwing in jaylen and tatum.

Ingram+lonzo+ 4 pick is still better than tatum and a 14 pick of a weak draft.

[iggymcfrack]

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wow what a freaking joke. jerry west is like, wait a minute, the trade is being held up because lakers dont want to give up kyle kuzma aka lonzo balls biznotch. jerry buss my dude, im glad you aint here to witness this.

Kuzma does nothing for the Pelicans. They’re just bluffing to try to dick over LA. He’s a good young player that won’t even be a max in RFA and there’s a very good chance the Pelicans would just let him walk in 2021. On the Lakers he’s a cost-controlled starter that you desperately need if you’re going to have the depth to win a title with 3 max guys. The Lakers are right to hold on to him. I wouldn’t give up Kuzma or Hart if I’m LA.

[FlatearthZorro]

Tatum ranked 33rd and 81st in RPM the last 2 years. Ingram ranked 317th and 319th. Tatum’s also younger. There’s no way Ingram is a superior asset right now. I’d say it’s more like:

Tatum >>> #4 > Lonzo = Memphis pick > Ingram = Brown > #14 = 2021 Lakers pick > #20 > Smart

Tatum is younger, a better shooter, a better athlete, has flashed more star potential, imo will get stronger physically and has shown to be be able to make the big shot. I'd put Smart over Ball, Ball is way too injury prone, Smart's contract is cheap and he shot the 3 around .370 last season which made him respectable in that regard.

Okay the younger thing makes no sense, we are talking about a 6 month difference. He's not a better athlete, how has he flashed more star potential? Ingram's last 31 games he averaged 20/6/3.5 on 51% shooting. Has Tatum ever had a 30 game stretch like that? The he has shown to make the big shot thing is weird, Ingram has too. Im not saying its Ingram by a mile, Id also can see the argument for Tatum over Ingram, but this idea its Tatum by a mile is ridiculous to me.

Id take Smart over Ball as well, but you have Smart as the #2 in Boston's deal. No way anyone is taking Smart over the #4 pick. Also its not like Smart has been mr reliable when it comes to health, has played 70 games only twice in his 5 seasons and has missed 11 playoff games the last 2 years. Also he needs more than 1 year of shooting 36% from 3, for me to buy in he is now a 37% 3pt shooter.

Again I get the argument for the Boston deal when you include Brown. But taking Brown out, you lose a lot.

Ehm, Tatum has averaged 20 for 4 games or more twice in the playoffs. And was averaging I think 18 when Irving went down. Tatum will average 20+ for the season next year if he's on our team and he's featured like he's supposed to. Tatum is easily the better athlete, and he's faster on his feet, he's stronger and that's even without talking about health. Tatum has 2 rookie contract years left on his deal.