Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[zoyathedestroya]

So basically we still don't have Davis because of the stupid Rose Rule (pre-trade deadline), because Lakers lucked out on a throw-in pick from the Nets, and because Lakers almost improbably moved up in the lottery.

FML. End them, Danny! We can't let the bad guys win!

[DK-All Day]

Without Tatum and Kuz, who’s offer wins out? That’s the key question. Neither team has an incentive to put either on the table if the other team doesn’t.

[fallguy]

Mackel saying his bet is AD to Celtics as soon as tonight. Can't copy the tweet.

We do have an endgame vibe out there with the Woj tweets.

And I think the deal has to get done sooner rather than later given all the downstream effects it will have across the league.

[jeremym480]

Come on, you can't really believe that? Lonzo has proven zero. The #4 pick in what is thought of as a 3 player draft. And Ingram could be done, or at least limited (which I hope doesn't happen). Smart, first team all NBA defense. Brown and Tatum, have already been to the ECF. I know people like to be contrarian, but bring something better than that.

Brown is a surer thing than Lonzo or Ingram, much higher floor, comparable ceiling - Ingram still has a lot to figure out even if he’s medically ok, Lonzo may never learn to shoot or finish at the rim, and then he’s basically a taller Ricky Rubio..

Brown can’t dribble. Smart can’t shoot. Once Lakers throw Kuz in, this deal is done.

Why would they want Kuz when they can just sign a similar player in Jabari Parker in free agency?

[MagicBagley18]

Someone said this but it’s true.....not one Celtics player or proposed other aspect leaked out yet (we can connect dots bc we r freaks ) but lakers entire players named and leaked once again. Just leaks after leaks

[klemen4]

Ingram, Ball, nb.4 we can beat without Tatum imo:

Brown=Ingram
Smart= or better than Ball
Mem pick = nb.4

Maybe Danny really is going after AD not offering Tatum

[Feed Your Head]

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[BillTheGOAT]

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[FlatearthZorro]

I just can’t get excited for this. That is unless Kyrie commits too.

Get excited man. For the rumors if not the players. Rumors get my juices going. As long as we don't gut our roster, I'm cool with trading for AD even without Irving. There are 2-3 options on the market with Rubio and Rondo as the 2 most obvious. Rondo winning 2nd title with Boston would be freaking glorious.

[ILC]

I have to wonder if we are just waiting for Kyrie to make a decision before we include Tatum. If he Ainge tells him we have AD in the bag but its gonna cost Tatum and he's willing to do it if he and we are waiting on Kyrie to give the green light.

I think he did give the green light, IMO. KD undergoes surgery, and then a report leaks today that the Knicks primary target is now Kawhi, and that they don't value Kyrie as much because they think (i.e. they know) he prefers Brooklyn. Kyrie then looks at Brooklyn and wonders if he wants to give up $50 million, and then be faced with having to waste a year waiting for KD (assuming the Nets sign him) while he plays with the likes of Caris Levert, Jarret Allen, Joe Harris and Ryan Dinwiddie.

I think you may be looking at this from the wrong angle in thinking Kyrie cares about that. To me it seems he just wants to be happy, close to home and have his own team, show he's the alpha. He'd get all that in BKN and wouldn't have to deal with AD rumours and questions all year.

[FlatearthZorro]

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Why would the Pels want McCollum, Gobert or Derozan. All 4 aren't that good of fits. Esp Gobert and Derozan.

[brackdan70]

Without Tatum and Kuz, who’s offer wins out? That’s the key question. Neither team has an incentive to put either on the table if the other team doesn’t.

Seems like other teams....could beat offers without Tatum or Kuz pretty easily....knock package with #3, And Robinson for example? Idk.

[Darth Celtic]

Naw. KG trade was first ddb (told me in private) and the Kingsly broke it on the site. But you got the Gomes part right from his side of the story anyways. He did send me a pic of him and Gomes. But players take pics with fans all the time so who knows.

Sure, but CelticThug had it on draft night I believe---trade was delayed.

Naw, that was DDB. **** Celtic Thug said we were getting Rashard Lewis cuz he worked out with Gerald Green.

Here is one of his "insider" pm's to me. Kind of funny to read now, and it all kind of fell off when the draft came and we instead traded the pick for Ray.

Ainge and Atlanta are talking. I got word that Ainge is talking to Atlanta about a deal. Atlanta doesn't want anything to do with Zach Randolph. They really want both Conley Jr. and Brandon Wright. Nobody know what Memphis is going to do at this point. But all sign have them leaning toward Al Horford. Boston is willing to draft Conley Jr or Brandon Wright with the 5th pick. Boston will then trade 5th pick to Atlanta for the #11 pick and Joe Johnson. The buys Ainge really wants is Al Thornton that is way is hyping up Yi and Noah in hope that Thornton falls, because a lot of GM are high on Thornton right now. Anyways, Danny want Atlanta to take Wally but they are pushing for Theo so they can get some cap relief. Danny isn't really playing hard ball here as he knows his job is on the line. So he willing to part with Theo #5 and Gerald Green for Joe Johnson and #11 pick. Boston wants Atlanta to draft Brandon Wright first because they feel that in case the player they want at 11 isn't there they can hold the cards by having Conley. The player ATL needs the most.

[jeremym480]

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No, no, no, and no...

maybe DeRozan since he's the most attainable of those 4 but I don't think NOLA would want him or he would fit with Jrue/Zion

[Celtic Esquire]

My respect for David Griffin has gone up immensely today.

He countered Klutch's SI article by leaking every damn thing under the sun, including getting Woj to write that the Clippers and Nets were gaining traction. LBJ and his cronies will have to give up the entire Lakers roster if they plan to land AD.

Well played DG!

[FlatearthZorro]

Without Tatum and Kuz, who’s offer wins out? That’s the key question. Neither team has an incentive to put either on the table if the other team doesn’t.

Seems like other teams....could beat offers without Tatum or Kuz pretty easily....knock package with #3, And Robinson for example? Idk.

Robinson is a traditional big. I dunno outside of NYK fans who's valuing him so high? He seems like a slimmer DeAndre Jordan. Doesn't fit today's game too well, either. Can block shots, rebound and dunk.

[PierceFan4ever]

Dont know what it will take financially. Just curious to know what will it take for us to get 1 of either Conley or Russell if Kyrie leaves?

Imo, Celtics are strong title contenders, if not the favorites to win it all if they get Davis next season as long as both Tatum and Brown aren’t going out. If the Celtics have a lineup of

Kyrie
Brown
Hayward
Horford
Davis

With no Durant next year on a super team, that’s the favorite to win it all. Plus we don’t know about Kawhi’s situation. He could very well leave win or lose these finals to go out west. Lowry and Gasol aren’t going to get any younger, it’s harder to repeat without having that hunger to win that first championship with everyone on your back. Bucks and Sixers could easily lose their 3rd, 4th, or 5th best players on their roster. If Kyrie leaves, and Butler leaves to join the nets (LOL) the Sixers will get weaker. Celtics still lose a very important piece in Kyrie but if they can make a trade for a top 10 point guard or hell, I honestly think this team will improve anyways without Kyrie to some degree as long as Davis is there. Knicks can get desperate and steal a couple important players from either the bucks or Sixers. Hayward is likely going to be much better next year, Brown should be trending up as well with another year under his belt.

Obviously these are some best case scenarios for the Celtics but some of these things can very well happen. Imo it’s worth it now that Durant is out. I think there’s a good chance neither the bucks, raps, or Sixers will be as good as next season with players possibly leaving to get paid while the Celtics will especially if Irving stays.

As a worst case scenario, it would suck if Davis left after a year without a ring and goes to the lakers but imo I don’t think the lakers are going to win **** in the spring of 2021 with Lebron being a dinosaur by then. The worst case scenario is we self destruct to rebuild while the lakers become a good team but not a great team for the next few years which neither team will win anything but I trust our management more to build a better roster but LA still has that sunny weather, nice beaches thing always going for them in free agency in which they cheat their way to being contenders.

Losing Tatum will suck big time since he’s personally my favorite but there’s no superstar walking through that door coming to Boston anytime soon unless they request a trade which is very rare and even then, the next star can pull a Davis too and want to player for a prefer landing spot. Take the risk, go all in, and there’s a chance it will be worth it in the end because like I said, the Celtics have the potential to be the best team in the league next season because I don’t see any historic teams out there like the warriors without Durant.

[MagicBagley18]

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No, no, no, and no...

maybe DeRozan since he's the most attainable of those 4 but I don't think NOLA would want him or he would fit with Jrue/Zion

U know damn pop ain’t helping them tf out

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

That was something else. I can't even for the life of me remember what it was that guy "broke". Maybe I'll see if my PM's go back 13 years. I made him send me proof of his source before I let him post. Then he just started making stuff up.

Those were also the days, in another direction.

KG trade he claimed he knew the cousin of "Ryen Gomes" or something like that.

Naw. KG trade was first ddb (told me in private) and the Kingsly broke it on the site. But you got the Gomes part right from his side of the story anyways. He did send me a pic of him and Gomes. But players take pics with fans all the time so who knows.

IIRC, this is how KG went down for the rest of the board:

-Celtics get screwed in the lottery. ddb makes a a cryptic post saying something like "Don't worry. A plan is being unleashed to bring the Celtics to title contention sooner rather than later"
-a random poster, during the 3rd week of July, came in and said something like "Hey guys, this is going to sound crazy, but I was in Minnesota and was at a bar. I spoke to someone who claimed to work for the Timberwolves and he said that KG was going to get traded to Boston".
-I think most of us were skeptical, because it seemed so random. Enter kingsly, Al's buddy who also ran his website (someone said he was Al's cousin, but I've never been able to verify.
-kingsly shook our board with one post - "There's some truth to this"
-when pressed further on the matter, he disclosed that Al had received a call from Ainge a few days ago telling him he had been traded, and then thanked him for his contributions as a Celtic

A few people made some good coin because I think the odds of the Celtics winning the title that year were, and I'm guessing here, either 100/1 or 1000/1. I wish I had placed money down at that time. Oh well.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I think Griffin is just messing with LA, honestly - on behalf of the Pels ownership - the only scenario that works is Drummond to NOP, the Pistons taking Culver, Hunter or Garland - and I don’t think Detroit goes through with it unless NOP will swap Jrue for Reggie Jackson