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Brandon_Roy wrote:https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/anthony-davis-trade-to-lakers-would-happen-over-my-dead-body-pelicans-owner/donato wrote:Brandon_Roy wrote:If it were up to Griffin this deal would of been done ages ago. Its the owners who are reluctant to cave in.
Nonsense. Griffin was given the keys to the castle when he was hired.
Brandon_Roy wrote:https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/anthony-davis-trade-to-lakers-would-happen-over-my-dead-body-pelicans-owner/donato wrote:Brandon_Roy wrote:If it were up to Griffin this deal would of been done ages ago. Its the owners who are reluctant to cave in.
Nonsense. Griffin was given the keys to the castle when he was hired.
Jagic Mohnson wrote:BNM wrote:Jagic Mohnson wrote:
worse, they could be portland and like charlie brown think its their year and then lucy pulls the football away and you slip and fall flat on your face every year since 1977.
You know what else would be funny, LAL getting AD and finishing behind POR for the 7th straight season. We all heard last summer after the Lakers signed LeBron about how the Lakers were going to challenge GSW and HOU and the Blazers were going to miss the playoffs. Yet, the Charlie Brown Blazers finished 16 games ahead of the Lakers
Since you brought up ancient history, when was the last time the Lakers actually had a winning record?
its about tiles bro. you hang banners for making the playoffs in portland like the clippers do. you know the lakers will win a title before portland does and thats why you are so mad at the lakers possibly getting anthony davis. portland trailblazers got freakin swept and durant didnt even play. you guys should give yourselves a pat on the back for trying though, good job good effort there bubba.
Illmatic12 wrote:Froob wrote:Ainge must have a helluva plan if Kyrie leaves.
I expect Ainge will pull back at the last second once he accepts how risky this is
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this straight out of his playbook? Make sure Boston's name is involved with trade talks for every superstar just so he can say later on "Oh, we were close but didn't do it" .. Ainge is just making sure Woj mentions Celtics so people won't criticize him for not getting involved.
Ultimately they'll just be used for leverage before AD gets sent to the Lakers. I can't see Boston overtaking the Lakers offer at the finish line given the uncertainty surrounding Davis and Irving. Once LA got lucky in the lottery and landed the #4 overall pick, many didn't want to admit it but it was basically a foregone conclusion at that point.
Tommy Heinsohn wrote:The game is not over until they look you in the face and start crying.
BNM wrote:Jagic Mohnson wrote:BNM wrote:
You know what else would be funny, LAL getting AD and finishing behind POR for the 7th straight season. We all heard last summer after the Lakers signed LeBron about how the Lakers were going to challenge GSW and HOU and the Blazers were going to miss the playoffs. Yet, the Charlie Brown Blazers finished 16 games ahead of the Lakers
Since you brought up ancient history, when was the last time the Lakers actually had a winning record?
its about tiles bro. you hang banners for making the playoffs in portland like the clippers do. you know the lakers will win a title before portland does and thats why you are so mad at the lakers possibly getting anthony davis. portland trailblazers got freakin swept and durant didnt even play. you guys should give yourselves a pat on the back for trying though, good job good effort there bubba.
You know, if Jerry Buss were alive, I'd agree with you 100%. But the Lakers need more than one or two stars to get back to their former glory. They also need competent ownership, management and coaching - three things they have sorely lacked since Jerry Buss passed.
In spite of all the advantages they have (history, glamour, better endorsement potential, international presence, better weather, the bright lights of Hollywood, etc.) this current ownership has managed to do something sad sack, tiny market, rainy Portland hasn't done since they were an expansion team - string together 6 straight losing seasons. Portland hasn't had more than three straight losing seasons since 1971 - 76.
If Jerry were alive, I think he'd be embarrassed by what current ownership has done to his formerly great franchise. They still have all of the advantages, but have gotten none of the results. Even when they signed the pseudo-GOAT, they still couldn't put a winning team around him.
If they do get AD, they will have a winning record and make the playoffs, but 35-year old LeBron + AD + a bunch of nobodies does not guarantee they will make the finals, let alone win a championship. LeBron found out just how competitive the West is last season. All the preseason talk about challenging GSW and HOU was laughable. He should have been more worried about lowly POR, OKC, SAS, DEN, UTA and the Clippers.
donato wrote:bb22 wrote:Ya the Lakers are extremely lucky that Rich Paul is on their side. They are in complete control now.
Rumours of Kyrie declining his PO means that there will be no Kyrie + AD experiment. Kyrie is not signing a new max deal with the Celtics only for AD to leave in 2020.
Lakers should lowball the heck out of the Pelicans... and they deserve it for refusing that deadline offer.
1. Kyrie was always going to decline his PO even if he was 100% wanting to stay a Celtic.
2. Lakers have their feet to the fire because that team goes nowhere this year if they don't trade for AD and LeBron probably wants out.
3. Do you even basketball?
Blacksheep25 wrote:Lakers homers. If they trade Ball, Ingram and #4 for AD, how much cap do they have left? I know Kuzma is another 1.9 or whatever if he’s also in package.
PierceFan4ever wrote:Windy on SC said the pelicans don’t like the lakers offer which is why they are shopping the #4 pick around
LakerLegend wrote:BNM wrote:Jagic Mohnson wrote:
its about tiles bro. you hang banners for making the playoffs in portland like the clippers do. you know the lakers will win a title before portland does and thats why you are so mad at the lakers possibly getting anthony davis. portland trailblazers got freakin swept and durant didnt even play. you guys should give yourselves a pat on the back for trying though, good job good effort there bubba.
You know, if Jerry Buss were alive, I'd agree with you 100%. But the Lakers need more than one or two stars to get back to their former glory. They also need competent ownership, management and coaching - three things they have sorely lacked since Jerry Buss passed.
In spite of all the advantages they have (history, glamour, better endorsement potential, international presence, better weather, the bright lights of Hollywood, etc.) this current ownership has managed to do something sad sack, tiny market, rainy Portland hasn't done since they were an expansion team - string together 6 straight losing seasons. Portland hasn't had more than three straight losing seasons since 1971 - 76.
If Jerry were alive, I think he'd be embarrassed by what current ownership has done to his formerly great franchise. They still have all of the advantages, but have gotten none of the results. Even when they signed the pseudo-GOAT, they still couldn't put a winning team around him.
If they do get AD, they will have a winning record and make the playoffs, but 35-year old LeBron + AD + a bunch of nobodies does not guarantee they will make the finals, let alone win a championship. LeBron found out just how competitive the West is last season. All the preseason talk about challenging GSW and HOU was laughable. He should have been more worried about lowly POR, OKC, SAS, DEN, UTA and the Clippers.
With Durant going down the championship window widens, that team can compete depending on whats around them.
Dr Aki wrote:Blacksheep25 wrote:Lakers homers. If they trade Ball, Ingram and #4 for AD, how much cap do they have left? I know Kuzma is another 1.9 or whatever if he’s also in package.
The idea is to agree to a trade now, go after a max guy in July (Lakers have 32.54 mil in cap space, 7 year max guys start at 32.7 mil).
Then execute the trade in August when draft picks are signed and eligible to be traded
donato wrote:bb22 wrote:Ya the Lakers are extremely lucky that Rich Paul is on their side. They are in complete control now.
Rumours of Kyrie declining his PO means that there will be no Kyrie + AD experiment. Kyrie is not signing a new max deal with the Celtics only for AD to leave in 2020.
Lakers should lowball the heck out of the Pelicans... and they deserve it for refusing that deadline offer.
1. Kyrie was always going to decline his PO even if he was 100% wanting to stay a Celtic.
2. Lakers have their feet to the fire because that team goes nowhere this year if they don't trade for AD and LeBron probably wants out.
3. Do you even basketball?
BNM wrote:LakerLegend wrote:BNM wrote:
You know, if Jerry Buss were alive, I'd agree with you 100%. But the Lakers need more than one or two stars to get back to their former glory. They also need competent ownership, management and coaching - three things they have sorely lacked since Jerry Buss passed.
In spite of all the advantages they have (history, glamour, better endorsement potential, international presence, better weather, the bright lights of Hollywood, etc.) this current ownership has managed to do something sad sack, tiny market, rainy Portland hasn't done since they were an expansion team - string together 6 straight losing seasons. Portland hasn't had more than three straight losing seasons since 1971 - 76.
If Jerry were alive, I think he'd be embarrassed by what current ownership has done to his formerly great franchise. They still have all of the advantages, but have gotten none of the results. Even when they signed the pseudo-GOAT, they still couldn't put a winning team around him.
If they do get AD, they will have a winning record and make the playoffs, but 35-year old LeBron + AD + a bunch of nobodies does not guarantee they will make the finals, let alone win a championship. LeBron found out just how competitive the West is last season. All the preseason talk about challenging GSW and HOU was laughable. He should have been more worried about lowly POR, OKC, SAS, DEN, UTA and the Clippers.
With Durant going down the championship window widens, that team can compete depending on whats around them.
Notice I said "and a bunch of nobodies". Sure, if they land another max contract level player, they can compete, but what other max contract guys have the Lakers on their short list?
BNM wrote:Dr Aki wrote:Blacksheep25 wrote:Lakers homers. If they trade Ball, Ingram and #4 for AD, how much cap do they have left? I know Kuzma is another 1.9 or whatever if he’s also in package.
The idea is to agree to a trade now, go after a max guy in July (Lakers have 32.54 mil in cap space, 7 year max guys start at 32.7 mil).
Then execute the trade in August when draft picks are signed and eligible to be traded
That assumes they renounce all nine of their free agents and don't take back more money than they send out in a hypothetical NOP trade.
NyKnicks1714 wrote:I really don't understand it from the Celtics POV. Kyrie looks like he's gone, so why give up your assets for AD, whether he stays or leaves?
Dr Aki wrote:Blacksheep25 wrote:Lakers homers. If they trade Ball, Ingram and #4 for AD, how much cap do they have left? I know Kuzma is another 1.9 or whatever if he’s also in package.
The idea is to agree to a trade now, go after a max guy in July (Lakers have 32.54 mil in cap space, 7 year max guys start at 32.7 mil).
Then execute the trade in August when draft picks are signed and eligible to be traded
here it isMUpacersSIC wrote:snaquille oatmeal wrote:MUpacersSIC wrote:
Where does it say anywhere that they've agreed on a framework?
Tweets in previous pages
Literally doesn't say they've agreed on a framework. Just that the Pelicans would like the Lakers to try to get something different for the #4 pick. No "agreement" at all.
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done.
Slim Charless wrote:donato wrote:bb22 wrote:Ya the Lakers are extremely lucky that Rich Paul is on their side. They are in complete control now.
Rumours of Kyrie declining his PO means that there will be no Kyrie + AD experiment. Kyrie is not signing a new max deal with the Celtics only for AD to leave in 2020.
Lakers should lowball the heck out of the Pelicans... and they deserve it for refusing that deadline offer.
1. Kyrie was always going to decline his PO even if he was 100% wanting to stay a Celtic.
2. Lakers have their feet to the fire because that team goes nowhere this year if they don't trade for AD and LeBron probably wants out.
3. Do you even basketball?
Yeah if LAL wanna low ball someone, Pels should call AD's bluff and hold onto him. Make him come see his teammates every day, make him see how good Zion is gonna be. When they start winning-and they will win, see if that changes his mind. If not, then deal him at the trade deadline to some team that might think a gamble like him might push them over the top for the title. Plus, there's probably gonna be some superstar that wants out, or some desperate GM trying to save his job. What you don't do is let Rich Paul bully you into doing something stupid.
Tell LAL "give us what we want or continue to lose till you can sign AD in free agency. Have fun wasting another year of Lebron"