Yallbecrazy wrote:Starbury did some great stuff with his shoes
+1
As crazy as he was that was one of the nicest things he did to get good basketball shoes in the hands of people that can't pay $150+ a pair.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:Starbury did some great stuff with his shoes
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otmshank1 wrote:Spens1 wrote:He's not nearly as bad He's pretty much the root cause of all of the problems that the knicks had (other than Dolan himself of course) in the mid 2000's.
People still refer to people 'pulling a marbury' on here almost 15 years after all that drama went down there. The only other player i've heard referred to when talking about NBA drama that far after is Latrell Sprewell (both that '12 million isn't enough to feed my family' and him strangling his coach).
Karate Diop wrote:Anyone else get a Starbury vibe from Kyrie?
Immensely talented, unable to lead, forced his way out of an ideal situation as a #2 to try and be a #1, etc.
Prokorov wrote:Karate Diop wrote:Anyone else get a Starbury vibe from Kyrie?
Immensely talented, unable to lead, forced his way out of an ideal situation as a #2 to try and be a #1, etc.
When did marbury win a title?
when did marbury lead a team to 55+ wins as a #1?
The "kyrie unable to lead" thing is misplaced... yeah he cant lead ego maniac young kids who think their crap doesnt stink (Rozier) on a team he never wanted to be on from day 1.
What’s interesting to some is even that Irving is so potentially available this summer. When teams were trying to get into the race for him two years ago, they were informed by his side that he would definitely not re-sign with them.
“We were told that the team he wanted to go to was getting ready to trade for him,” said one general manager. “And that team was Boston. So the Celtics were where he wanted to go. He got what he wanted. Now here we are two years later. Crazy.”
bisme37 wrote:Prokorov wrote:Karate Diop wrote:Anyone else get a Starbury vibe from Kyrie?
Immensely talented, unable to lead, forced his way out of an ideal situation as a #2 to try and be a #1, etc.
When did marbury win a title?
when did marbury lead a team to 55+ wins as a #1?
The "kyrie unable to lead" thing is misplaced... yeah he cant lead ego maniac young kids who think their crap doesnt stink (Rozier) on a team he never wanted to be on from day 1.
You're not paying attention...What’s interesting to some is even that Irving is so potentially available this summer. When teams were trying to get into the race for him two years ago, they were informed by his side that he would definitely not re-sign with them.
“We were told that the team he wanted to go to was getting ready to trade for him,” said one general manager. “And that team was Boston. So the Celtics were where he wanted to go. He got what he wanted. Now here we are two years later. Crazy.”
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/05/18/celtics-still-want-to-be-the-ones-to-pay-kyrie-irving-but-possibilities-abound/
He wanted to be in Boston and once he was in Boston for a year he committed to staying there. I know you hate the C's and are intentionally dismissing any and all of Kyrie's faults, but I like the Nets and I worry that a month after he goes there he will regret his choice and blame everyone around him for his perceived grievances and your team will suddenly be a complete mess.
Prokorov wrote:Karate Diop wrote:Anyone else get a Starbury vibe from Kyrie?
Immensely talented, unable to lead, forced his way out of an ideal situation as a #2 to try and be a #1, etc.
When did marbury win a title?
when did marbury lead a team to 55+ wins as a #1?
The "kyrie unable to lead" thing is misplaced... yeah he cant lead ego maniac young kids who think their crap doesnt stink (Rozier) on a team he never wanted to be on from day 1.
Karate Diop wrote:Prokorov wrote:Karate Diop wrote:Anyone else get a Starbury vibe from Kyrie?
Immensely talented, unable to lead, forced his way out of an ideal situation as a #2 to try and be a #1, etc.
When did marbury win a title?
when did marbury lead a team to 55+ wins as a #1?
The "kyrie unable to lead" thing is misplaced... yeah he cant lead ego maniac young kids who think their crap doesnt stink (Rozier) on a team he never wanted to be on from day 1.
1. Marbury never played with LeBron... Which is the only reason Kyrie has a title.
2. It's kind of misleading to make the claim that Kyrie led the Celtics to 55+ wins as a #1 when Kyrie only played in 60 of 82 games that year and did not play in 14 of the Celtics 55 wins that year... And while the Celtics overall record with Kyrie DID have them on pace to win 56 games - it's important to note that the Celtics were 10-10 over their last 20 games with Kyrie, a significant slowdown from their start of season record that year and arguably a sign of things to come - as this past season the Celtics went 37-30 with Kyrie in the lineup (45 win pace).
It'd be one thing if Kyrie had a history of leading teams to 55+ wins year in and year out... But no matter how you try to spin it... He doesn't.
3. I agree that Rozier is trash and that Jaylen Brown didn't handle his demotion well... But come on, you're better than that, Kyrie and his fake intellectual act don't inspire anyone.