Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[Triple7]

Except most people dont think Tatum is just a role player.... im not saying he will reach ADs level. But im not trading him for one year of AD


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You can think all you want that he may turn into an all star one day. Hell, even I think that.... But he isn't now. No matter what you or I THINK.. And we could always be wrong. I'd rather trade for the sure superstar and trust we can win him over in boston rather than pray tatum and or brown can be an mvp player one day.

How do you suppose we can win him over? by getting a 32yr old conley? or by teaming up with 33 yr old horford and hayward?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Keep Tatum out of the deal, and I'm good with rolling the dice on 1 year of AD, even if it costs Brown, Smart, Hayward & picks..

I keep wondering if Ainge can find a 3rd team to spin Hayward to, which can add value to the AD deal, and spare moving Tatum.

[TheOGJabroni]

Are we able to draft players for the Pelicans this year with our picks & then trade them (I believe 30 days) after they've signed, using them as salary filler as well? I think the Cavs did something similar with Minnesota for Love.

Let's say Danny is offering Tatum & not much else; he still needs to get salaries to match & not including Smart in a deal would be very difficult, but if he moved draft picks after they've signed, maybe that could get it done? Of course he could add in guys like Williams, Yabusele, etc. if needed.

[Celtics_Champs]

What does Ainge know? Is this really just a crazy gamble when the agent and his father has said time and time again that he will walk.

He either knows something or he’s kicking the tires to raise the price for LA.

[Banks2Pierce]

How do you suppose we can win him over? by getting a 32yr old conley? or by teaming up with 33 yr old horford and hayward?

How do you suppose we can win him over? by having a 33yr old lowry? or by teaming up with 33 yr old gasol and dannygreen?

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Keep Tatum out of the deal, and I'm good with rolling the dice on 1 year of AD, even if it costs Brown, Smart, Hayward & picks..

I keep wondering if Ainge can find a 3rd team to spin Hayward to, which can add value to the AD deal, and spare moving Tatum.

I was thinking that also but unfortunately Hayward has little value right now.

[BillTheGOAT]

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I think Baynes opted in with a wink wink agreement he wouldn't be dealt.

But maybe Theis or Morris could agree on a sign and trade, Williams would probably have to go and the draft picks are counted as outgoing salary.

[zoyathedestroya]

Why does it have to be so difficult for the Celtics??

Celtics couldn't trade for Paul George right away before Hayward is signed. Pacers got impatient and traded him to OKC.
Celtics 1st season as a potential contender was shattered five minutes into their 1st game.
Celtics couldn't trade for Anthony Davis last February because of a stupid quirk in the CBA.
Celtics can't get Anthony Davis to commit long-term because his head is far up Lebron's ass.

Meanwhile, because Raptors were desperate and treadmilling, they get Kawhi and Danny Green for DeMar DeRozan and not much else. They get Gasol for Valanciunas. They got Siakam for the 27th pick. Now they're about to win a title because of a lucky bounce and Warriors getting ravaged by injuries. If I didn't know better, it's their team that has the lucky leprechaun.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Keep Tatum out of the deal, and I'm good with rolling the dice on 1 year of AD, even if it costs Brown, Smart, Hayward & picks..

I keep wondering if Ainge can find a 3rd team to spin Hayward to, which can add value to the AD deal, and spare moving Tatum.

I was thinking that also but unfortunately Hayward has little value right now.

Maybe a team with little cap flexibility and trying to get over the hump like Houston or Portland would get involved and hope Hayward bounces back??

[GoCeltics123]

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[Afam]

Brown is not going to get it done. Celtics should back away. At this point they are wasting new orleans time. They ( Celtics, Danny Ainge has been stockpiling assets/picks etc since 2013 for the chance to acquire Anthony Davis. Now that he is available, they are not going all in. They knew what the cost were going to be for years.

Yes kyrie could leave the celtics, there is a risk to that, as well as trading Jayson Tatum and losing both players, but everything you do requires risks.

If the celtics can't meet the pelicans asking price, then walk away. Jaylen Brown is not going to get it done. The pelicans wants a player with all star potential they can sell to their fans. They can't do that with Jaylen Brown.

[Slartibartfast]

Don't care for Rozier really.

Becomes close to mandatory that we keep him if we part with Smart and/or lose Kyrie. Last season was a joke from him, but he established a good baseline in the two previous years.

Agreed.

And with a lineup of Brown/Hayward/Horford/AD, I think he'd be plenty happy. That's a considerable amount of offensive responsibility without too much of a playmaking burden (assuming some more improvement from Hayward).

Just would need more of a true playmaker as an alternate, as Rozier/Brown put a lot of pressure on Hayward as the PNR handler.

Rubio and Rondo would be my preferences from a stylistic perspective, but a scoring combo guard who can handle more scoring volume than Terry would be good too.

I think bringing back Morris would be more of a priority if we got AD and lost Tatum. That combo forward D and mid-post scoring would be very useful alternating next to AD and Horford. With Baynes as 4th big.

Rozier/Brown/Hayward/Horford/AD with a Rubio (or Rondo)/9th man shooter/Morris/Baynes bench would be very formidable.

[chrisab123]

Brown is not going to get it done. Celtics should back away. At this point they are wasting new orleans time. They ( Celtics, Danny Ainge has been stockpiling assets/picks etc since 2013 for the chance to acquire Anthony Davis. Now that he is available, they are not going all in. They knew what the cost were going to be for years.

Yes kyrie could leave the celtics, there is a risk to that, as well as trading Jayson Tatum and losing both players, but everything you do requires risks.

If the celtics can't meet the pelicans asking price, then walk away. Jaylen Brown is not going to get it done. The pelicans want a player with all star potential they can sell to their fans. They can't do that with Jaylen Brown.

Lets not jump to conclusions

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Well there’s the 3rd teams but what do either team give up to pels? Myles turner or Jon Collins? is that enough

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Keep Tatum out of the deal, and I'm good with rolling the dice on 1 year of AD, even if it costs Brown, Smart, Hayward & picks..

I keep wondering if Ainge can find a 3rd team to spin Hayward to, which can add value to the AD deal, and spare moving Tatum.

I was thinking that also but unfortunately Hayward has little value right now.

Maybe a team with little cap flexibility and trying to get over the hump like Houston or Portland would get involved and hope Hayward bounces back??

Capela/ Gordon for Hayward type of deal.

[GoCeltics123]

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Well there’s the 3rd teams but what do either team give up to pels? Myles turner or Jon Collins? is that enough

Not sure but he added this:

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[WeLikeOurGuys]

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Well there’s the 3rd teams but what do either team give up to pels? Myles turner or Jon Collins? is that enough

Hawks would be out of their damn minds if they gave up Collins for the 4 pick and ball.

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Well there’s the 3rd teams but what do either team give up to pels? Myles turner or Jon Collins? is that enough

Any team that helps the Lakers get this done automatically becomes my third most hated entity in the NBA:

3) **** team that helps the Lakers
2) LeBron James/Rich Paul
1) The Lakers

[keevsnick1]

Another tidbit I don't know f people posted here, Zach Lowe on his podcast yesterday said he doesn't see how the deal gets done without Tatum. Dont remember the exact wording.

I tend to agree. Jaylen may still be the best piece in the deal without Tatum, but it all becomes an eye of the beholder type thing. Maybe the NOP like Ingram, maybe they like the 3rd pick from NYK. Maybe the Lakers trade lonzo for 6 and its Ingram, 4, 6, Kuzma, Hart and a future first. That beats Brown and stuff, and I love Brown. Is a Brown centered deal good offer with the other stuff we have? Sure. But given how desperate the Lakers I think they will find a way to beat it.

Then there's the optics angel. Its a really rough look to trade Davis to Boston without getting back Tatum if you are the NOP. For all these reasons I think the deal is gonna have Tatum, but maybe we hold onto one of Smart/Memphis pick.

[Afam]

Not trying to overreact, be irrational. However the celtics are about to lose out on kawhi, Anthony Davis, even kyrie. What was the need of acquiring all the assets, picks, players since 2013 for a chance to acquire a star player and not using them.

I have been optimistic this season/offseason. Even while some weren't. I don't know what is going on.