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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#741 » by greenroom31 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:19 pm

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I really hope Wizards are not that dumb.

Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


I can't think of a reason why they would trade Beal for #4 and Lonzo or Ingram. Who knows?

Also if it's really the case as suggested in the wiretap that the holdup for LA getting AD is Kyle Kuzma, that's pathetic. Kuzma is a fine player, but he's about to turn 24 and doesn't have the upside of the other players being discussed. You don't pass on AD over him, that's for sure.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#742 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:19 pm

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IlCapitano wrote:
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I really hope Wizards are not that dumb.

Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


If pels can end up with Ingram and Beal or kuzma Beal that’ll seal it for them


If the Wizards trade their 25 year old happy star with multiple years remaining for a pupu platter and allowing another team to get the prize player then they should just move the team
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#743 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:20 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:
IlCapitano wrote:
Read on Twitter


I really hope Wizards are not that dumb.

Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


If pels can end up with Ingram and Beal or kuzma Beal that’ll seal it for them
Unless Danny puts Tatum out there

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Not sure if even then tbh but yes most likely your right. Have to account for the fact that the pelicans are never going to be a free agent destination and are always gonna pick from at best middle tier. If you can get Beal whose under contract s few more years and remain competitive which is important for them in a football market it’s def worth considering
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#744 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:21 pm

This works in the trade checker!! lol

BOS Gets: AD & Conley
NO Gets: Capela, Brown & Smart
HOU Gets: Hayward, R. Williams, #14 & #20
MEM Gets: Gordon, Hill, MEM pick held by BOS & #22 pick

Roster: Horford, AD, Tatum, Conley, re-sign Rozier, re-sign Morris, Baynes, Ojeleye, ???

The Conley deal could happen 2 months after acquiring Gordon & Hill though..
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#745 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:22 pm

Afam wrote:This offseason can determine whether the celtics are championship contenders, or a mediocre team. Not looking good so far. Unreal.

Dude, you gotta chill a bit. Literally nothing has happened yet. There's still a full week before the draft. We don't even know what's going on behind the scenes. There's time to overreact once AD is traded lol. KG got traded end of July. Kyrie was traded even later than that.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#746 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:22 pm

If they can swing Ingram Beal to pels....griffin will do it. Highly unlikely 4 gets Beal so I guess moot point
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#747 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:22 pm

Wizard don’t have a GM at the moment. I don’t they will trade Beal until they know who is the new GM
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#748 » by Afam » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:22 pm

Whatever happens, so be it. We have no control anyways. All we can do is let things unfold on its own, and deal with whatever the outcome is.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#749 » by Bohemian » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:23 pm

So right now it's AD to Lakers and Kyrie to Nets or Knicks? Damn, yesterday I was so excited! :cry: :p
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#750 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:24 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
IlCapitano wrote:
Read on Twitter


I really hope Wizards are not that dumb.

Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


If pels can end up with Ingram and Beal or kuzma Beal that’ll seal it for them


Beal's a UFA in 2 years. I would think they would want more controllable contracts, and guys not eligible to become UFA"s for awhile.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#751 » by Theocy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:25 pm

I really dont want anthonny davis.

We keep separating AD from his agent as if they are two different entities. We keep arguing that he is being manipulated as if he is a 10 year old. He is freaking adult with a specific plan and his looking into how that plan materialises.

Unless all this is smokescreen to get his value down i really doubt he will be with us for long.
A rental of such a high calibre player will be very expensive. Tatum ? Really ? I would trade half the team in a beat if this whole ‘i will be in LA’ in a year wasnt being played around the nba 24/7. Unfortunately it is. The guy has a target his agent is looking to make that dream a reality. Rich paul isnt the bad guy in this poor guy’s story. If he was operating outside his remit he would be fired.

If kyrie goes thats bad. We need alternatives. If he doesnt great. We need growth. I cant see how renting a player in a year makes sense in this case
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#752 » by sully00 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:26 pm

Afam wrote:The pelicans didn't wait until the offseason to get jaylen brown. They waited because of jayson tatum. They could have traded him to the lakers during the trade deadline and be done with it.

Playing hardball might cost us three players if they are not careful. Kyrie chances of staying here without another star player is low. I wouldn't trade Jaylen Brown for Anthony Davis even with the memphis pick included. Jaylen Brown just doesn't have a high value. It sucks but that is the truth.

Lakers can easily beat that offer. Ingram, Kuzma, 4th pick. Done.


It doesn't matter. If Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart and bunch of picks doesn't get it done then they can send him to the Lakers. You can't trade Tatum for the same reason you think NOLA wants him so much. He is right now the best player on your team and is under control for 7 years. Good teams make deals like this all the time and don't have to include their best player to get it done, because it is stupid and pointless. There is not going to be enough left to put around Davis to compete.

You don't have to make this trade, there will be other deals and other players.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#753 » by ajones9219 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:26 pm

Bohemian wrote:So right now it's AD to Lakers and Kyrie to Nets or Knicks? Damn, yesterday I was so excited! :cry: :p


No worries my dude imo its the deal that's talked about is the one that never gets done. Any minute you could have a "celtics finalizing trade for Anthony Davis" WOJ bomb
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#754 » by sully00 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:29 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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I agree with your points and if AD leaves it is a step back. Also have to realize kyrie leaving for nothing is also a step back already


Kyrie leaving for nothing is a step back. I would love for the Celtics to resign Kyrie, so we can trade him as soon as possible so we can get some close to equal value in return.

But I don’t think Kyrie wants to give Danny and the Celtics that opportunity. Maybe that changes in the next few weeks.

Celtics can’t afford another setback by overpaying for a possible one year rental.

The Pelicans are trying to get the Lakers to include Kumza so that they Celtics can include Tatum.

It makes sense for the Lakers to include Kumza if they have to because there is a strong chance once the Lakers get AD that AD will sign an extension there. The Celtics don’t have that same luxury.


Can't see why a volume scorer like Kuzma moves the needle much..


My read is that they want nothing to do with Ball and Ingram and the Lakers don't either. I am not sure that Kuzma moves the needle that much as that NOLA doesn't really like the Lakers assets.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#755 » by return2glory » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:29 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
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MagicBagley18 wrote:
I agree with your points and if AD leaves it is a step back. Also have to realize kyrie leaving for nothing is also a step back already


Kyrie leaving for nothing is a step back. I would love for the Celtics to resign Kyrie, so we can trade him as soon as possible so we can get some close to equal value in return.

But I don’t think Kyrie wants to give Danny and the Celtics that opportunity. Maybe that changes in the next few weeks.

Celtics can’t afford another setback by overpaying for a possible one year rental.

The Pelicans are trying to get the Lakers to include Kumza so that they Celtics can include Tatum.

It makes sense for the Lakers to include Kumza if they have to because there is a strong chance once the Lakers get AD that AD will sign an extension there. The Celtics don’t have that same luxury.


Can't see why a volume scorer like Kuzma moves the needle much..


I’m not sure it moves the needle that much, but I feel they can get more players they like, why not? In the process they try to get other teams to bring up their offers.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#756 » by CeltsfaninDC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:29 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
IlCapitano wrote:
Read on Twitter


I really hope Wizards are not that dumb.

Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


If pels can end up with Ingram and Beal or kuzma Beal that’ll seal it for them


Sure, but they don’t have what the Wiz want/need for a player of Beal’s caliber/age/contract. They’d have to overpay and they just don’t have the assets to do that
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#757 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:31 pm

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CelticFaninLBC wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Kyrie leaving for nothing is a step back. I would love for the Celtics to resign Kyrie, so we can trade him as soon as possible so we can get some close to equal value in return.

But I don’t think Kyrie wants to give Danny and the Celtics that opportunity. Maybe that changes in the next few weeks.

Celtics can’t afford another setback by overpaying for a possible one year rental.

The Pelicans are trying to get the Lakers to include Kumza so that they Celtics can include Tatum.

It makes sense for the Lakers to include Kumza if they have to because there is a strong chance once the Lakers get AD that AD will sign an extension there. The Celtics don’t have that same luxury.


Can't see why a volume scorer like Kuzma moves the needle much..


My read is that they want nothing to do with Ball and Ingram and the Lakers don't either. I am not sure that Kuzma moves the needle that much as that NOLA doesn't really like the Lakers assets.


Seems the best NO can get from LA is picks #4 & #6 (Lonzo dealt to PHX), and guys a level below Smart. Unfortunately for LA, this draft sucks, and Ingram's health is very questionable.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#758 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:31 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
IlCapitano wrote:
Read on Twitter


I really hope Wizards are not that dumb.

Basically eliminates these other pretend all star guys like Gordon, Lavine etc.


If pels can end up with Ingram and Beal or kuzma Beal that’ll seal it for them


Beal's a UFA in 2 years. I would think they would want more controllable contracts, and guys not eligible to become UFA"s for awhile.


It’s 2 years away...high character locker room guy and griffin believes they can build a quality program. He was still trying to convince AD to stay for Christ sakes and he’s on the old max not a new one. They wanna remain competitive right or wrong,

Not to mention the new tweet floats a ball Ingram and 4 to wizards, kuzma Beal to pelicans , AD to lakers.

It’s not terrible just don’t see the 4 pick having that much value depends on how wiz value ball and Ingram
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Post#759 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:32 pm

return2glory wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Kyrie leaving for nothing is a step back. I would love for the Celtics to resign Kyrie, so we can trade him as soon as possible so we can get some close to equal value in return.

But I don’t think Kyrie wants to give Danny and the Celtics that opportunity. Maybe that changes in the next few weeks.

Celtics can’t afford another setback by overpaying for a possible one year rental.

The Pelicans are trying to get the Lakers to include Kumza so that they Celtics can include Tatum.

It makes sense for the Lakers to include Kumza if they have to because there is a strong chance once the Lakers get AD that AD will sign an extension there. The Celtics don’t have that same luxury.


Can't see why a volume scorer like Kuzma moves the needle much..


I’m not sure it moves the needle that much, but I feel they can get more players they like, why not? In the process they try to get other teams to bring up their offers.


Yeah, it's just squeezing assets from other teams. Unless NO loves Barrett, I don't see LAL, LAC and NYK offering better than Jaylen Brown.
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Re: Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8 

Post#760 » by Bohemian » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:33 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Bohemian wrote:So right now it's AD to Lakers and Kyrie to Nets or Knicks? Damn, yesterday I was so excited! :cry: :p


No worries my dude imo its the deal that's talked about is the one that never gets done. Any minute you could have a "celtics finalizing trade for Anthony Davis" WOJ bomb


I hope you are right :P

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