Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

[Jagic Mohnson]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

kobes lakers sucked from 2005-2007 and then pau arrived in 2008 and they went to 3 straight title appearances. you seriosuly think AD wont make a differnce. dont forget lakers play in the west. the nets and celtics wouldnt make the playoffs if the played out west based on their record vs the western conference if they played a western conference schedule. i did the math and celtics wouldve had a 43-39 record if they played a west schedule which means no playoffs.

[kobe808lak]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

Should AD have to rot and waste his prime for an inept Franchise?

[Texas Chuck]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

kobes lakers sucked from 2005-2007 and then pau arrived in 2008 and they went to 3 straight title appearances. you seriosuly think AD wont make a differnce. dont forget lakers play in the west. the nets and celtics wouldnt make the playoffs if the played out west based on their record vs the western conference if they played a western conference schedule. i did the math and celtics wouldve had a 43-39 record if they played a west schedule which means no playoffs.

I think you are missing his point. He's not saying the Lakers wouldn't be greatly improved with AD. He's saying the Pels would be getting a group of players back they can't win with---a very disappointing return for a guy like AD. Obviously the Lakers would be improved.

[LightTheBeam]

Read on Twitter

supposedly this guy broke some previous trades as well.

He haven't broken ****.

Dude is known for stalking Dwight Howard a few years back.

Gotta give it to the kid. Hes got 5000 LA followers just by putting SOURCES or BREAKING in his tweets. Thats next level right there.

[Texas Chuck]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

Should AD have to rot and waste his prime for an inept Franchise?

Wait I thought you wanted him to come to the Jeanie Buss Lakers?
I mean I realize the Lakers are a historically great franchise, but they've been pretty inept with current ownership and their current FO certainly hasn't inspired confidence either.

I think one can make a very good argument that the Pelicans have better ownership/management than the Lakers do right now which is all that should be relevant to one concerned about that for AD.

[LightTheBeam]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

kobes lakers sucked from 2005-2007 and then pau arrived in 2008 and they went to 3 straight title appearances. you seriosuly think AD wont make a differnce. dont forget lakers play in the west. the nets and celtics wouldnt make the playoffs if the played out west based on their record vs the western conference if they played a western conference schedule. i did the math and celtics wouldve had a 43-39 record if they played a west schedule which means no playoffs.

I think you are missing his point. He's not saying the Lakers wouldn't be greatly improved with AD. He's saying the Pels would be getting a group of players back they can't win with---a very disappointing return for a guy like AD. Obviously the Lakers would be improved.

Yea this is what I'm not understanding. This return seems like a poo poo platter of unproven inefficent guys and the best asset is getting moved. Something seems weird here.

[The Corey's]

Gonna be a meltdown in here when Lakers get him for that hot garbage

[The_Hater]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

Some people always make this argument when a team trades a bunch of average players for a superstar, and they’re almost always dead wrong. Anyone who doesn’t think Bron + AD + whoever isn’t going to be a very dangerous team is only fooling themselves. It’s not like the Cavs had a murders row of players playing alongside Bron and Love in 2017-18, I don’t see how the 2019-20 roster would be worse than that team.

[Jon1798]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

Should AD have to rot and waste his prime for an inept Franchise?

No. And that’s why he shouldn’t be traded to the Lakers.

[Jagic Mohnson]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

kobes lakers sucked from 2005-2007 and then pau arrived in 2008 and they went to 3 straight title appearances. you seriosuly think AD wont make a differnce. dont forget lakers play in the west. the nets and celtics wouldnt make the playoffs if the played out west based on their record vs the western conference if they played a western conference schedule. i did the math and celtics wouldve had a 43-39 record if they played a west schedule which means no playoffs.

I think you are missing his point. He's not saying the Lakers wouldn't be greatly improved with AD. He's saying the Pels would be getting a group of players back they can't win with---a very disappointing return for a guy like AD. Obviously the Lakers would be improved.

i hear you but the best player lakers got for shaq was lamar odom. sure shaq was 32 but he still had 2-3 years left and ehe ended up winning another ring. davis is so good yet he never made a single title appearance with cousins and jrue as his sidekicks but kawhi made a finaks with choker lowry and 3rd year siakim.

[Texas Chuck]

he never made a single title appearance with cousins and jrue as his sidekicks but kawhi made a finaks with choker lowry and 3rd year siakim.

Your description of Lowry make me think you aren't really attempting serious discussion here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

AD didn't have a single full season with Boogie and Jrue as teammates and of course the depth behind them doesn't compare with the current Raptors so it's really not that simple.

Now do I think Kawhi is a better player than AD? Yeah I think he absolutely is. But AD is still a very very good player and if you trade him for a couple of disappointing high draft picks and the 4th pick in a 1.5 player draft? That's a pretty disappointing haul.

[lamscott]

Did the Pacers get this much slack for trading PG for an uproven Oladipo who wasn't good yet and unproven Sabonis?

Lakers are getting killed for their "crappy" package.

[teke184]

kobes lakers sucked from 2005-2007 and then pau arrived in 2008 and they went to 3 straight title appearances. you seriosuly think AD wont make a differnce. dont forget lakers play in the west. the nets and celtics wouldnt make the playoffs if the played out west based on their record vs the western conference if they played a western conference schedule. i did the math and celtics wouldve had a 43-39 record if they played a west schedule which means no playoffs.

I think you are missing his point. He's not saying the Lakers wouldn't be greatly improved with AD. He's saying the Pels would be getting a group of players back they can't win with---a very disappointing return for a guy like AD. Obviously the Lakers would be improved.

i hear you but the best player lakers got for shaq was lamar odom. sure shaq was 32 but he still had 2-3 years left and ehe ended up winning another ring. davis is so good yet he never made a single title appearance with cousins and jrue as his sidekicks but kawhi made a finaks with choker lowry and 3rd year siakim.

Less than a full season of healthy Cousins (AS break to AS break IIRC) and, you know, running into the Warriors in the playoffs. Because so many other teams have gotten past them in the last 5 years like the Rockets or the Lakers. Oh, wait, Lake Show didn’t even make the 8th seed.

[PELICANSFAN]

This is the Celtics and Pelicans leaking (fake) involvement by the Celtics to force the Lakers to give up more. Most other reports have said the Celtics are not serious bidders for AD since Kyrie is likely to walk and AD won't stay.

But NOP have every incentive to try to make the appearance of a bidding war and the Celtics / Ainge are more than happy to help screw the Lakers.

In reality, the Lakers are the ONLY serious bidder for AD. The Knicks, Clippers, etc. have already dropped off.

You could be right. Griffin and Ainge are close and Griffin used to work with Ainge. Ainge could be doing him a solid trying to drive up the Lakers' offer. If Ainge really wanted to be aggressive for AD, he has much better assets to offer.

[PELICANSFAN]

If NO trades AD to the Lakers for the Lakers core, a core that couldn’t even sniff the playoffs playing with the most dominant player in the league, they will be the biggest joke in sports. Besides for the lack of talent coming back to NO, it further perpetuates the idea that the LAs and NYs and the LeBrons can bully small market teams to trade their stars. NBA is quickly going the way of European soccer where one or two teams per league buy all the best players and win all the championships.

Should AD have to rot and waste his prime for an inept Franchise?

Isn't that what he is pushing for?

[Jagic Mohnson]

he never made a single title appearance with cousins and jrue as his sidekicks but kawhi made a finaks with choker lowry and 3rd year siakim.

Your description of Lowry make me think you aren't really attempting serious discussion here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

AD didn't have a single full season with Boogie and Jrue as teammates and of course the depth behind them doesn't compare with the current Raptors so it's really not that simple.

Now do I think Kawhi is a better player than AD? Yeah I think he absolutely is. But AD is still a very very good player and if you trade him for a couple of disappointing high draft picks and the 4th pick in a 1.5 player draft? That's a pretty disappointing haul.

you psychic and know for sure only 1 or 2 players are good this draft. curry,thompson giannis, kawhi were not top 3 picks. eveyr year everypone says oh its a 2 player drfat everyone sucks. if you know so much about drfat picks why arent you hired by the nba.

[Texas Chuck]

Did the Pacers get this slack for trading PG for an uproven Oladipo who wasn't good yet and unproven Sabonis?

Lakers are getting killed for their "crappy" package.

yes they did. Turns out they did much better for themselves than we all thought but remember that was the return for Ibaka just the summer before. So trading PG for the same thing OKC got for Ibaka--yeah they got slandered at the time. The difference is their fanbase didn't take it as a personal affront but rather for what it was--- people judging the value of the pieces involved. Something Lakers fans would do well to emulate as opposed to feeling like this is some anti-LA belief.

[Benedict_Boozer]

Ainge NEVER and I mean NEVER loses trades. He doesn’t even break even. Look at his history.

There is zero chance he includes Tatum and Pelinka knows it, not surprised there is a stale mate. Griffin needs to get some other teams to make real bids.



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[DusterBuster]

At this point I just want to see some other team get AD just to see Lakers Twitter explode after all the "this is a done deal" twitter guys.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Gonna be a meltdown in here when Lakers get him for that hot garbage

"I'm done with this rigged league"


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